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Apr 24, 2003

STRONG as an OX and TWICE as SMART

qsvui posted:

heh, this looks like a lichess daily puzzle

1. Qxf7+ Rxf7 2. Rb8+ Rf8 3. Rbxf8#, right?

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Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008


[twitching violently as my own horrible resignations flood back into memory] check all checks! check all checks!!!

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008



Well aint that a coincidence. You even played the right moves in game

qsvui
Aug 23, 2003
some crazy thing
congrats on the e-fame hk

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

qsvui posted:

congrats on the e-fame hk

Uh oh. What happened?

e: oh, I just realized that was from one of my blitz games. I saw that at first and thought "I remember playing games like that." I probably have multiple games in that line. It's close enough to theory that it can happen if black doesn't notice that white's played Nc4.

e2: downloaded my database and I've got 7 games on lichess in that line. 5 with the correct move Bg5, and 2 with the incorrect move Ng5. All wins. +11 -5 =1 in the line overall after Nc4.

Hand Knit fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 2, 2020

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
Are any of you azan2 on gameknot?

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Im slowly and arduously grinding through a tactics training plateau after about two weeks of zero progress, and while its extremely frustrating, at the same time it feels like my third eye has opened when I see problems and go "oh yeah you just make this threat and this pin and this parry and win the exchange, simple"

qsvui
Aug 23, 2003
some crazy thing
sounds like progress to me

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Well its (slow) progress now, but the two weeks before this were awful

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008



Hell yeah, finally blasted through that barrier. Now to just figure out how to do all this in an actual game...

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

does anyone else notice that on lichess, if you run into one player playing a bizarre opening, you often run into another person doing the same thing in the next game? this happens to me a lot for some reason?

just had 2 games in a row where white gave me a joke checkmate by moving their f and g pawns for no reason right off the bat, but this same thing happens a lot for some reason

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED
There are a lot if weird elo related tricks (and mistakes) people do, its pretty funny I see it as well

oh dope
Nov 2, 2006

No guilt, it feeds in plain sight
Hey thread, I'm just getting into chess and I'm enjoying it. I'm playing against an AI to learn the game, and I'm wondering how I determine if I'm getting any better? I played an online game against an similarly ranked opponent and was thoroughly stomped.

Carbolic
Apr 19, 2007

This song is about how America chews the working man up and spits him in the dirt to die

oh dope posted:

Hey thread, I'm just getting into chess and I'm enjoying it. I'm playing against an AI to learn the game, and I'm wondering how I determine if I'm getting any better? I played an online game against an similarly ranked opponent and was thoroughly stomped.

Keep playing online. If you keep getting stomped, your rating will go down until you are playing people you have a chance against. In this day and age there's no good reason to be learning against a computer. Computers, particularly on low level, don't play like humans do.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Also if youre new, most games tend to be one person hanging a piece and the other person just crushing them, so even at the correct ranking youre going to have games like that often

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Control Volume posted:

Also if youre new, most games tend to be one person hanging a piece and the other person just crushing them, so even at the correct ranking youre going to have games like that often

hey, its also very common that both players hang pieces until one of them notices

grah
Jul 26, 2007
brainsss

fart simpson posted:

hey, its also very common that both players hang pieces until one of them notices

Love to hang my Queen and then three moves later take my opponent's Queen cause they didn't notice our unprotected Queens staring at each other. Blitz is really fun like that.

Carbolic
Apr 19, 2007

This song is about how America chews the working man up and spits him in the dirt to die
Was tilted pretty bad earlier today but managed to score a nice win in a bullet game to end my night.



Win White's queen.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

id prob try nf3 and then pin the queen with the bishop

Morholt
Mar 18, 2006

Contrary to popular belief, tic-tac-toe isn't purely a game of chance.
Nf3
bxc3
?

genericuser
Mar 1, 2007

[insert clever comment here]
If anyone wants to play correspondence chess, I’m chilledchess on Lichess. Circa 1700 at the moment although I’ve been 1800+ elo back when I used to be in a club.

Also gently caress my tunnel vision when I can see a mate. Lost two games recently because I got excited.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

my friend sent me this puzzle from one of his games today. win blacks queen:

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
... is that a trick question?

Carbolic
Apr 19, 2007

This song is about how America chews the working man up and spits him in the dirt to die

fart simpson posted:

my friend sent me this puzzle from one of his games today. win blacks queen:



It's like Aman Hambleton of the Chessbrahs says, when you have mate in 1, look for better. Nh4.

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


Ok I’ll ask, why not just take with you bishop?

grah
Jul 26, 2007
brainsss
Yeah is Nh4 even better? ...Qxd3 | Qxd3 and uh, now your knight is on h4, hooray?

I like Bg5 though. Now black can't castle, and if ...Qxg5 then Nxg5 and black still can't castle cause the h pawn hangs, and the white queen is free to enter the game.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
I would simply exploit my lead in development by castling, and then maybe win in an endgame.

Carbolic
Apr 19, 2007

This song is about how America chews the working man up and spits him in the dirt to die

grah posted:

Yeah is Nh4 even better? ...Qxd3 | Qxd3 and uh, now your knight is on h4, hooray?

I like Bg5 though. Now black can't castle, and if ...Qxg5 then Nxg5 and black still can't castle cause the h pawn hangs, and the white queen is free to enter the game.

Nh4 isn't better, it's just a facetious response to a facetious problem.

Bg5 doesn't work because you allow the queen an escape square on h5.

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
Hi friends. At what point should I bother learning another opening for white? I only play the Ruy Lopez and I love it. But at what point will only playing that opening hold me back? This probably doesn't matter because I'm pretty beginner level, nearing 1400 on correspondence chess, and 1100 on blitz if i'm lucky. Mostly just curious if there is any negative to not caring about other openings at this level.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

derp posted:

Hi friends. At what point should I bother learning another opening for white? I only play the Ruy Lopez and I love it. But at what point will only playing that opening hold me back? This probably doesn't matter because I'm pretty beginner level, nearing 1400 on correspondence chess, and 1100 on blitz if i'm lucky. Mostly just curious if there is any negative to not caring about other openings at this level.

It depends on what you're worried about with respect to being held back. I moved from 1.e4 to 1.c4 because, after a while, I just couldn't keep up with similar-rated players in Najdorf theory. It also fit a more strategic/positional play style. But at 1100-1400, those might not be concerns for you. Another reason to switch is to get a bit of familiarity with other sorts of positions. Playing a London (1.d4, 2.Nf3, 3.Bf4) or 1.d4-2.c4 will probably get you different sorts of positions, and learning how to play different sorts of positions is always good. There's also always just changing for the sake of variety. gently caress around with 1.Nf3 for a while, see how it feels.

If you like playing 1.e4, there's no real negative to just wanting to continue playing it. But there can be advantages to trying other stuff, too.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Hand Knit posted:

If you like playing 1.e4, there's no real negative to just wanting to continue playing it. But there can be advantages to trying other stuff, too.

I listed the 10 most common first moves for white and the 10 most common first moves for black after 1. e4 and 1. d4, so I just play one until I win and then rotate to the next one.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

derp posted:

Hi friends. At what point should I bother learning another opening for white? I only play the Ruy Lopez and I love it. But at what point will only playing that opening hold me back? This probably doesn't matter because I'm pretty beginner level, nearing 1400 on correspondence chess, and 1100 on blitz if i'm lucky. Mostly just curious if there is any negative to not caring about other openings at this level.

a cool beginner opening is 1. e4 e5 2. nf3 nc6 3. nc3 nf6 4. nxe5

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

vyelkin posted:

... is that a trick question?

yes. black resigned before white could move

genericuser
Mar 1, 2007

[insert clever comment here]

derp posted:

Hi friends. At what point should I bother learning another opening for white? I only play the Ruy Lopez and I love it. But at what point will only playing that opening hold me back? This probably doesn't matter because I'm pretty beginner level, nearing 1400 on correspondence chess, and 1100 on blitz if i'm lucky. Mostly just curious if there is any negative to not caring about other openings at this level.

Ruy Lopez is played by super-GMs so it’s a sound opening. My advice would be to stick to it and learn the key middle game ideas, pawn breaks and study some GM games.

You could spend a chess career just studying and playing Ruy Lopez.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
In other chess news, Carlsen threw a game against Ding yesterday. He was returning the win after Ding had apparently disconnected the previous game.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

derp posted:

Hi friends. At what point should I bother learning another opening for white? I only play the Ruy Lopez and I love it. But at what point will only playing that opening hold me back? This probably doesn't matter because I'm pretty beginner level, nearing 1400 on correspondence chess, and 1100 on blitz if i'm lucky. Mostly just curious if there is any negative to not caring about other openings at this level.

I had a friend in uni who was a much better player than I was but we would often play chess together. I had a lot of fun just doing surveys of openings, where we would agree to play the first X moves of certain lines and go from there. It was really helpful to learn how different openings felt to play. Maybe that's something you could try to see if there's another opening that appeals to you?

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

Hand Knit posted:

In other chess news, Carlsen threw a game against Ding yesterday. He was returning the win after Ding had apparently disconnected the previous game.

Is this shade at Hikaru from a month or so ago or is this just Classy Magnus?

elite burrito
May 9, 2010
The Ruy Lopez will never hold you back -- but if it's the only opening that you know, what do you do when your opponent didn't play e5? It may be worth fleshing out your ideas against other white defenses.

You also could benefit as black by having a repertoire again e5 sidelines and of course d4 openings.


But no, don't replace the Ruy Lopez.

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
Thanks for the helpful thoughts everyone!

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Bodyholes
Jun 30, 2005

I don't think playing sidelines holds people back as much as some claim.

...Within reason of course. Nothing like the Englund or the Fred Defense. But I improved my OTB rating by 800 points and got my first win against an IM in slow chess with the Portuguese Gambit so, take that as you will. I think as long as you enjoy chess enough to put in the work to improve, and your opening isn't horrid enough that it's preventing you from getting reasonable positions out of the opening, it's fine.

Some people climb their way up by being specialists of some pet sideline.

That said, if you already play the Ruy Lopez and like it, stick with it.

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