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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Ambitious Spider posted:

Good:Jk Rowling stopped tweeting about trans people for a hot second

Bad:retweeting people on medication for mental health issues are lazy


https://twitter.com/trinerscot/status/1279501444496986113?s=21
Hey the woman whose work has always had extremely troubling classist attitudes turns out to be a classist rear end in a top hat when pushed. Who'd've thunk?

Henchman of Santa posted:

I would argue that the human Funko Pop collection who believes that he is an intellectual titan who was meant to inherit the Earth and that Chechnya is a Christian theocracy is not in fact smarter than most people.
He is, but only on an extremely relative scale. Absolute garbage person outside of an extremely specific wheelhouse.

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Filthy Haiku
Oct 22, 2010

i am shattering like glass


but at least
i have

springy ride
Part of being trans is having to constantly be caught up with whatever hideous TERF rhetoric is trending to protect yourself if you exist in any sort of public capacity, and it's exhausting because it's so constant. It is a very small group but the brain rot consumes them and they are literally on the prowl 24/7 for vulnerable people to jump on. Rowling is absolutely no different, because she will don a veneer of 'respectable discourse' and speak with assumed authority and then pounce on any target small enough to coordinate a hit on.

Mental health is a deceptive term when used by a TERF, because they have absolutely no interest in people seeking out actual, proven methods of care. To them, mental health care is about having a "therapist" acting as an opponent to the patient, keeping them perpetually dissuaded seeking any real treatment. Suicide is an acceptable alternative; though they don't say this because they can't crouch it in the flowery language of "respectable discourse." They will apply this to any form of mental health that suits their narrative. They breathlessly repeat the same mantra, that they're compassionate, but the system gives the patient what they want too often.

Medication is seen as a 'cheat' to them; a shortcut to happiness that isn't difficult enough, an unearned peace. I know what I'm saying probably seems dramatic from the outside but if you are trans or show meaningful support for trans people in any way, you are very quickly drafted into a culture war where every single iota of your public presence is scrutinized by white sexagenarians from the UK who have absolutely no greater passion or love than making us miserable.


Sorry for the seriouspost; it's just an exhausting place to be. I try to keep myself focused strictly on the positive side of trans-activism, but it's too difficult sometimes.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Tenebrais posted:

You know how only a couple of weeks ago the company behind Dungeons & Dragons announced they're going to stop releasing works in which some races are just inherently evil?

I'll be generous and that describes June. But that doesn't explain the last decade.

Also Rowling continues to loving suck. I wonder who would break first in an argument between her and Scott Adams.

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎
anyone unlucky enough to witness it

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1279755418621878272

:stonk:

You've ignored WHAT?!

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
It's a TERF thing to call trans women taking selfies "porn." I'm guessing that's what happened there, since she dragged her transmisogyny into a thread about one of her children's stories.

RoboRodent
Sep 19, 2012

For a writer, Rowling is really bad at communication.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!
It’s great too because it was a “like,” not even a full retweet. But then she does a screenshot of that original tweet she liked and shares it as part of that thread, even though there wasn’t a single word missing.

Ugh. This is like Orson Scott Card.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
You know what really grinds my gears?

It's always the same poo poo.

What JKR is saying is old, well-trod terrain for TERFs. "They're rushing kids into transition!" "They're gaslighting children into thinking they're trans!" "They want to invade women's spaces!"

It's always, always the same poo poo. It's been stated hundreds of times by now, starting literally years, if not decades, ago. And it's been debunked over and over, every time it's been stated.

But each time someone famous has a "middle-aged moment", goes full bigot and throws their hat into the ring, we have to relitigate everything. Never mind that they're the same exact points that have been said and debunked many time over before, they will fall back on that, as if they were absolute truths that are self-evident.

And every time a bigot shuts up and leaves, another takes their place. So they have "fresh blood" every time, while we have to repeat the same thing again.

I'm getting loving tired of having to argue for my humanity and my basic rights over and over and over again. I hate this.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Manuel Calavera posted:

I'll be generous and that describes June. But that doesn't explain the last decade.


Oh, certainly - I meant in the sense that, for decades up to now, D&D has established a world with clearly-defined racist mechanics and that's going to affect the communities dedicated to it one way or another.

Fortunately the OotS comic's take on the matter is pretty good.

Filthy Haiku
Oct 22, 2010

i am shattering like glass


but at least
i have

springy ride

Mikl posted:

You know what really grinds my gears?

It's always the same poo poo.

What JKR is saying is old, well-trod terrain for TERFs. "They're rushing kids into transition!" "They're gaslighting children into thinking they're trans!" "They want to invade women's spaces!"

It's always, always the same poo poo. It's been stated hundreds of times by now, starting literally years, if not decades, ago. And it's been debunked over and over, every time it's been stated.

But each time someone famous has a "middle-aged moment", goes full bigot and throws their hat into the ring, we have to relitigate everything. Never mind that they're the same exact points that have been said and debunked many time over before, they will fall back on that, as if they were absolute truths that are self-evident.

And every time a bigot shuts up and leaves, another takes their place. So they have "fresh blood" every time, while we have to repeat the same thing again.

I'm getting loving tired of having to argue for my humanity and my basic rights over and over and over again. I hate this.

the 'middle aged moment' thing is the most craven poo poo there is, and it fools almost nobody. I'm sure you weren't just dipping your toe in to test the bigotry in the water before cannonballing into the discourse you rich piece of poo poo.

Sexual Aluminum
Jun 21, 2003

is made of candy
Soiled Meat

Arivia posted:

It's a TERF thing to call trans women taking selfies "porn." I'm guessing that's what happened there, since she dragged her transmisogyny into a thread about one of her children's stories.

Please tell me I am reading this wrong. Trans people can’t even take a picture of themselves without terfs calling it porn? gently caress that poo poo and gently caress JK.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Sexual Aluminum posted:

Please tell me I am reading this wrong. Trans people can’t even take a picture of themselves without terfs calling it porn? gently caress that poo poo and gently caress JK.

Certain people are out to invalidate us for being trans no matter what, because to them the trans already invalidates us and they are just trying to convince everyone else

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Tenebrais posted:

Fortunately the OotS comic's take on the matter is pretty good.

The comic is very good as long as you pretend the forums don't exist.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/1279803319758848000?s=20

Keep it up man!

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Sexual Aluminum posted:

Please tell me I am reading this wrong. Trans people can’t even take a picture of themselves without terfs calling it porn? gently caress that poo poo and gently caress JK.

If a TERF sees a picture of a trans person, they will be unable to not think of that person's possible genitals, so it's effectively porn.

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





Filthy Haiku posted:

Part of being trans is having to constantly be caught up with whatever hideous TERF rhetoric is trending to protect yourself if you exist in any sort of public capacity, and it's exhausting because it's so constant. It is a very small group but the brain rot consumes them and they are literally on the prowl 24/7 for vulnerable people to jump on. Rowling is absolutely no different, because she will don a veneer of 'respectable discourse' and speak with assumed authority and then pounce on any target small enough to coordinate a hit on.

Mental health is a deceptive term when used by a TERF, because they have absolutely no interest in people seeking out actual, proven methods of care. To them, mental health care is about having a "therapist" acting as an opponent to the patient, keeping them perpetually dissuaded seeking any real treatment. Suicide is an acceptable alternative; though they don't say this because they can't crouch it in the flowery language of "respectable discourse." They will apply this to any form of mental health that suits their narrative. They breathlessly repeat the same mantra, that they're compassionate, but the system gives the patient what they want too often.

Medication is seen as a 'cheat' to them; a shortcut to happiness that isn't difficult enough, an unearned peace. I know what I'm saying probably seems dramatic from the outside but if you are trans or show meaningful support for trans people in any way, you are very quickly drafted into a culture war where every single iota of your public presence is scrutinized by white sexagenarians from the UK who have absolutely no greater passion or love than making us miserable.


Sorry for the seriouspost; it's just an exhausting place to be. I try to keep myself focused strictly on the positive side of trans-activism, but it's too difficult sometimes.

I am so sorry that you and every other trans person is forced to deal with this poo poo every single day. I (cis woman) argue with terfs online all the time and I find it exhausting and demoralising that people can be such shits so easily. I cannot imagine how much worse it is when it's you yourself they are attacking.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
What’s confusing is she is saying shesaw porn tweeted at minors but ignored it? But she draws the line at people being mean to her?

How is that a good look inside your own bubble?

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Henchman of Santa posted:

If a TERF sees a picture of a trans person, they will be unable to not think of that person's possible genitals, so it's effectively porn.

Yeah, to them it's a fetish, being trans is entirely sexual, so a picture of yourself actively being trans is porno. It's insane to me these people can't imagine a trans person just going home and putting on sweats and making mac and cheese and watching Netflix and all other nonsexual aspects of life that are just more comfortable when you're not thinking I'M WRONG MY BODY IS WRONG MY MIND IS WRONG SOMETHING IS WRONG

But I guess when you've been rewarded for fitting your box or for suppressing your negative reactions to it, everyone who escapes the crab bucket must seem like an attention-seeking pervert.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Mikl posted:

You know what really grinds my gears?

It's always the same poo poo.

What JKR is saying is old, well-trod terrain for TERFs. "They're rushing kids into transition!" "They're gaslighting children into thinking they're trans!" "They want to invade women's spaces!"

It's always, always the same poo poo. It's been stated hundreds of times by now, starting literally years, if not decades, ago. And it's been debunked over and over, every time it's been stated.

But each time someone famous has a "middle-aged moment", goes full bigot and throws their hat into the ring, we have to relitigate everything. Never mind that they're the same exact points that have been said and debunked many time over before, they will fall back on that, as if they were absolute truths that are self-evident.

And every time a bigot shuts up and leaves, another takes their place. So they have "fresh blood" every time, while we have to repeat the same thing again.

I'm getting loving tired of having to argue for my humanity and my basic rights over and over and over again. I hate this.

Non-trans people do notice and we do care. None of it is fair and it makes no loving sense, but we will keep fighting alongside you.

Nastyman
Jul 11, 2007

There they sit
at the foot of the mountain
Taking hits
of the sacred smoke
Fire rips at their lungs
Holy mountain take us away

CharlestheHammer posted:

What’s confusing is she is saying shesaw porn tweeted at minors but ignored it? But she draws the line at people being mean to her?

How is that a good look inside your own bubble?

She ignored it because it wasn't porn, but that doesn't mean you can't SAY it was and pretend it was the penultimate straw before breaking the camels back. She's just not very smart is all.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

DigitalRaven posted:

This is a real thing a real person tweeted.

https://twitter.com/KwCongressional/status/1279562816324763648



QAnon is, at this point, the Venn-diagram overlap between "domestic terrorists" and "unmedicated schizophrenia".

Earlier in this thread someone said all the QAnon congressional candidates were running in blue districts where no normal Republican is even bothering to run (like when that neo-Nazi ran in the Chicago suburbs a couple years back), but this guy is running against a Republican incumbent in a conservative-leaning district and another one just won in Colorado under similar circumstances.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
How much do you think he had to pay Epstein to erase those tapes? :allears:

Also:
https://twitter.com/dril/status/1279814327776624640

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Kudos to whichever deep state agent is using the mind-beam that's compelling him to reply to people who don't exist

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!
My "not involved in elite pedophile rings" video confession has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my video confession.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
I feel like "don't make any statements of fact whatsoever about something you might be suspected of" is one of the first things a defense attorney should be telling their client.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Emily's not the idiot:
https://twitter.com/FeminemiIy/status/1279594517423722496

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008

Following that logic chain, I believe that jerking off now qualifies as a hyper orgy.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

ponzicar posted:

Following that logic chain, I believe that jerking off now qualifies as a hyper orgy.

Ah, finally taking care of the one part I've always found the most frustrating with orgies: other people.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Filthy Haiku posted:

Ah yes, hormone therapy, notorious for how easy and non-nightmarish it is to start.

Starting hormones and SSRI medications were both a matter of going to a doctor, asking for them, and walking out with a prescription same day. Now I'm a more happy, functional, involved member of my community and society, and that's bad because...


The Roman's believed cunnilingus was...well not gay but emasculating, because they saw it as being penetrated by the woman the way fellatio is by a man. That makes a lot more sense than 'dicks leave behind a spirit essence that will gently caress my mouth if I put it on a vulva.'

there wolf has a new favorite as of 19:07 on Jul 5, 2020

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬


Predator handshake meme with one arm labeled "selfish hetero men" and the other one labeled "lesbians" and the hands are labeled "eating pussy is gay as hell"

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




I ordered a Ravenclaw face mask from Etsy and the day it arrived (June 9th) J.K. Rowling proceeded to shoot herself in the foot repeatedly. Sorry guys. :smith:

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Mak0rz posted:

Predator handshake meme with one arm labeled "selfish hetero men" and the other one labeled "lesbians" and the hands are labeled "eating pussy is gay as hell"

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Arivia posted:

Nah it’s still about trans people since the retweet is calling hormone therapy bad.

I thought Hormone was one of Harry's best friends?

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!



They must have gone through American Sex Ed where they hammer home the only way to prevent STDs and pregnancy is with abstinence

And also once you have sex with someone you have sex with everyone that person has ever had sex with

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

mind the walrus posted:

Non-trans people do notice and we do care. None of it is fair and it makes no loving sense, but we will keep fighting alongside you.

Thank you. This, unironically, means a lot.

Logically I know there's lots of people in our corner, but... Sometimes I need to actually hear it. It does the heart good.

jjack229
Feb 14, 2008
Articulate your needs. I'm here to listen.

ponzicar posted:

Following that logic chain, I believe that jerking off now qualifies as a hyper orgy.

That's just ridiculous. But, if you jerk off thinking about having sex with someone, then that's the same as you having sex with everyone else who has ever jerked off about that person too.

I think you will find that we are all gay.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Mikl posted:

Thank you. This, unironically, means a lot.

Logically I know there's lots of people in our corner, but... Sometimes I need to actually hear it. It does the heart good.

I don't know any trans people personally, so I can understand how someone in my friend circle might not see the issue with Rowling et al's poo poo because they haven't seen the people it affects. It rarely comes up, but when it does I make it clear in no uncertain terms that I will not tolerate TERF bullshit, and so far pointing out how literally all of it is just reheated homophobia has been enough to turn them away from it.

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Queen-Of-Hearts
Mar 17, 2009

"I want to break your heart💔 and give you mine🫀"




Kaiju Cage Match posted:

I ordered a Ravenclaw face mask from Etsy and the day it arrived (June 9th) J.K. Rowling proceeded to shoot herself in the foot repeatedly. Sorry guys. :smith:

She's been at it for years.

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