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alex gets horny for bobby in the books despite being like 30 years his senior i'm cancelling alex and cas and none of you can stop me
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T-man posted:alex gets horny for bobby in the books despite being like 30 years his senior that plus this is what books!Alex looks like  yeah, I can see him doing sex crimes
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Jul 7, 2020 10:33
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I'm so confused by James S.A. Corey responded to the allegation that "he" was staking "his" reputation on it, when he is in fact two people that co-wrote the expanse. This is weird.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:I'm so confused by James S.A. Corey responded to the allegation that "he" was staking "his" reputation on it, when he is in fact two people that co-wrote the expanse. This is weird. They've said before that they prefer to think of the books as the product of one person instead of two people co-authoring, sort of a brand.
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Jul 7, 2020 13:02
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Eiba posted:Yeah, we're going to have to deal with Cas Anvar in season 5. Depending on why it feels bad there are a couple ways to think about it: Well, I mean he did abandon his wife and kid to go fly spaceships... AND let them think for years that he'd died on the Cant... Kind of a lovely thing to do. But yeah, I get your point. Zazz Razzamatazz fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Jul 7, 2020 |
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Jul 7, 2020 14:53
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lol how Alex was into a married lady and immediately backed off when he realised she wasn't available.
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Jul 7, 2020 14:58
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:I'm so confused by James S.A. Corey responded to the allegation that "he" was staking "his" reputation on it, when he is in fact two people that co-wrote the expanse. This is weird. Its openly acknowledged that only one of the authors runs the joint Twitter. Hint; its the author who didn't also respond from a personal account.
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Jul 7, 2020 15:02
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Eiba posted:On an emotional level I know both of these rationalizations are unsatisfying, but I think they're worth keeping in mind, and rationalizations in general are worth attempting. The Expanse is cool and Cas Anvar, by all accounts, sucks. Don't let a jerk like him ruin something good. We're already supporting Amazon by watching the show, so that isn't great either. At least his behavior is out in the open and being discussed now. If some bad things happen to the character of Alex next season, I may enjoy that more than I normally would
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Jul 7, 2020 17:01
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Look as a Stargate fan, just bring in Ben Browder or Claudia Black to replace Alex.
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Jul 7, 2020 18:42
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Jack2142 posted:Look as a Stargate fan, just bring in Ben Browder or Claudia Black to replace Alex. Wil Wheaton
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Jul 7, 2020 19:06
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Okay, so the Roci is involved in a battle, and suffers some damage that causes a console to break with big shards sticking out, and Alex slams into the console, and the shards jab into his brain killing him painfully. BUT! There was some Protomolocule schmutz on the console that they missed during decontamination, and it's able to merge Alex's consciousness with the Roci, so now the Roci can fly itself and a Texan vocoder can do all of Alex's lines. Also, to make sure there's no possible further Protomolecule contamination, they strap Alex's body to a nuke and launch it at the sun, where his body is definitely destroyed so Cas can never come back to the show. We get to "keep" Alex, but get rid of Cas.
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Jul 7, 2020 19:57
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davidspackage posted:We're already supporting Amazon by watching the show, so that isn't great either. At least his behavior is out in the open and being discussed now. Assuming the showrunners do the right thing, they deserve to be supported for that. There’s still plenty who are enablers of bad behavior on the set, if not active participants in it. It’d be different if Anvar were an inseparable part of the production, like Bill Cosby with The Cosby Show. I don’t know if I can ever watch that again, but I am for drat sure not spending a penny if it will go into his pocket.
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Jul 7, 2020 19:58
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Alex dies off screen of space justice, holden tearfully turns on the autopilot AI that's been sitting there the entire time and roci flies herself.
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Jul 7, 2020 20:23
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I suppose the creators might have some sentiment towards the character and want to recast in order to have a "real" Alex we can remember fondly after the show is done.
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Jul 7, 2020 20:36
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I wonder if there are many s5 scenes where alex can be cut out? I hope he's paid by screen time and gets rekt.
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Jul 7, 2020 20:46
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I doubt it. If they aren't changing the book too much, Alex is extremely important this season.
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Jul 7, 2020 20:52
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Jack2142 posted:Look as a Stargate fan, just bring in Ben Browder or Claudia Black to replace Alex.
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Jul 7, 2020 21:36
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only if Browder does that accent.
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Wa11y posted:Okay, so the Roci is involved in a battle, and suffers some damage that causes a console to break with big shards sticking out, and Alex slams into the console, and the shards jab into his brain killing him painfully. BUT! There was some Protomolocule schmutz on the console that they missed during decontamination, and it's able to merge Alex's consciousness with the Roci, so now the Roci can fly itself and a Texan vocoder can do all of Alex's lines. Also, to make sure there's no possible further Protomolecule contamination, they strap Alex's body to a nuke and launch it at the sun, where his body is definitely destroyed so Cas can never come back to the show. That is completely insane and illogical. Why would they send a nuke into the sun, just send a regular old rocket and save yourself the warhead.
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Jul 7, 2020 22:00
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Chaos option: make Alex trans, replace with trans actress Cyberpunk option: deepfake Alex in without Cas using Bezosbux
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Jul 7, 2020 22:05
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I think the "clarissa mao becomes the new alex" is probably the least controversial option?
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Jul 7, 2020 23:42
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T-man posted:Chaos option: make Alex trans, replace with trans actress 
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Jul 7, 2020 23:47
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Best case scenario is they recast. Worst case scenario is they do an ~independent investigation~ and determine there was no wrongdoing. Also, let’s not act like major Hollywood productions have not already done this, up to and including huge, expensive reshoots when they recast a main character.
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T-man posted:Chaos option: make Alex trans, replace with trans actress I almost posted earlier to ask what the ethics would be of deepfaking a living actor against their will But I decided not to
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Best case scenario is they recast. So you're saying Christopher Plummer will be Alex in season 5?
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Jul 8, 2020 03:34
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While I appreciate the recommendations to have Ben Browser or Claudia Black replace Alex's character, the obvious best answer is to crossover Scorpius.
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Jul 8, 2020 04:48
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Oh man, if they just straight up brought in the Scorpius character. chef's kiss. Bonus points for the version in his head with the hawaiian shirt.
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Data Graham posted:I almost posted earlier to ask what the ethics would be of deepfaking a living actor against their will Zemeckis got sued for replacing Crispin Glover for Back to the Future Pt2 with an actor made up to look just like him. "According to Wikipedia posted:Crispin Glover was asked to reprise the role of George McFly. He expressed interest, but could not come to an agreement with the producers regarding his salary. He stated in a 1992 interview on The Howard Stern Show that the producers' highest offer was $125,000, less than half of what the other returning cast members were offered. Gale has since asserted that Glover's demands were excessive for an actor of his professional stature at that time. In an interview on the Opie and Anthony show in 2013, Glover stated that his primary reason for not doing Part II was a philosophical disagreement on the film's message; Glover felt the story rewarded the characters with financial gain, such as Marty's truck, rather than love. If it's done with permission from the actor (or their estate, like in the use of Carrie Fisher's likeness Star Wars).
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Zemeckis got sued for replacing Crispin Glover for Back to the Future Pt2 with an actor made up to look just like him. Presumably, they would have the permission of whatever actor was chosen to replace with a deepfake? So not 100% insane?
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Best case scenario is they recast. I think the latter would be challenging in this case because this has to have damaged Cas’s relationship with the rest of the cast, possibly to the extent that they won’t be able to act well alongside him.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Presumably, they would have the permission of whatever actor was chosen to replace with a deepfake? So not 100% insane?
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Jul 8, 2020 08:07
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Offer a fat Amazon payoff in exchange for his likeness. We're talking about a production coming from a business with more money than most countries.
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T-man posted:Offer a fat Amazon payoff in exchange for his likeness. We're talking about a production coming from a business with more money than most countries. If the point is to punish his misbehavior through loss of employment, what the gently caress would this accomplish?
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TychoCelchuuu posted:That's not helpful. In these cases of course you can count on the permission of the actor who is covered up, either via makeup (as in BttF II) or via deepfake. The actor who you don't have permission from is the person being excluded from acting in the thing and they're the one whose permission you need. The way I read that, they ran afoul of the law because they tried to copy his likeness. If you deepfaked it to make him look like someone completely different, with that person's VA replacing, would they need the original actor's permission, since their likeness is not being used? Anywho, it's all moot. Pretty sure they will release the next season as-is and recast for future shoots. 
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Slashrat posted:If the point is to punish his misbehavior through loss of employment, what the gently caress would this accomplish? the point is to literally get him out of the spotlight so your lovely company can save face, not anything moral. this is capitalism, remember?
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Giving him a fat payout in order to be able to continue to use his likeness in the work going forward, even without his continuing involvement, doesn't seem like it would accomplish either of those things. Anyway, I misunderstood the post I responded to as a suggestion for what Amazon should do, not what the poster thought they were likely to do.
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Cojawfee posted:Oh man, if they just straight up brought in the Scorpius character. chef's kiss. Bonus points for the version in his head with the hawaiian shirt. https://i.imgur.com/5Mi4tam.mp4
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What's wrong with Catwoman?
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I can't see recasting Alex. IMO, he has to be written out and replaced as a crew member, as impossible as that seems. Some of his best moments are yet to come, going by the books*. I think this would mean (spoilers) the show might keep around at least one character longer than they're supposed to live *That said, if I were to choose any of the original 4 crew to be replaced, he's probably it. Clarissa's arc could have even more meaning if she doesn't loving die soon after being accepted. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jul 8, 2020 |
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Nail Rat posted:I can't see recasting Alex. IMO, he has to be written out and replaced as a crew member, as impossible as that seems. Some of his best moments are yet to come, going by the books*. By the same logic, I can see recasting as the best route. I hope they choose well though.
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