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Yes | 151 | 82.51% | |
No | 32 | 17.49% | |
Total: | 183 votes |
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:How long until the public sees his taxes? After the election probably lmao https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/s...ingawful.com%2F
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:30 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 05:33 |
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If I'm understanding it right, they said being president isn't immunity from subpoenas, but they kicked that cases back to see if he can come up with a better excuse to refuse than just being the president. Is that right?
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:31 |
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1281233332202885123/photo/2 Looks like they want Congress to go through very careful path for a presidential subpoena otherwise it sets up a way for one branch to beat the other with the subpoena cudgel.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:32 |
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Yes Edit: Trump set to broad of an argument to block the taxes so they're saying send it back to lower courts to have a less broad argument and then it will probably have to go back up to supreme court again so probably not until next year
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:32 |
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Can someone who's already read the full Vance opinion explain why NY prosecutors still won't get the documents even though their subpoena is valid?
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:52 |
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ManMythLegend posted:Can someone who's already read the full Vance opinion explain why NY prosecutors still won't get the documents even though their subpoena is valid? The only things at issue at the SCOTUS was whether the president had absolute immunity and whether the state had to demonstrate a heightened need before subpoenaing the president. Both arguments were rejected. However, Trump can still raise other arguments at the lower court as to why he shouldn't turn them over.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:58 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:The only things at issue at the SCOTUS was whether the president had absolute immunity and whether the state had to demonstrate a heightened need before subpoenaing the president. Both arguments were rejected. However, Trump can still raise other arguments at the lower court as to why he shouldn't turn them over. I thought Vance already involved an issued subpoena by NY prosecutors, and this case was the President's challenge to it?
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 16:01 |
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Trump is absolutely freaking out on Twitter right now so clearly he’s upset with how these rulings trended.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 16:04 |
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ManMythLegend posted:I thought Vance already involved an issued subpoena by NY prosecutors, and this case was the President's challenge to it? Correct. The arguments at the SCOTUS were limited to two subjects. quote:Two hundred years ago, a great jurist of our Court estab-lished that no citizen, not even the President, is categori-cally above the common duty to produce evidence whencalled upon in a criminal proceeding. We reaffirm that principle today and hold that the President is neither abso-lutely immune from state criminal subpoenas seeking hisprivate papers nor entitled to a heightened standard of need. The “guard[] furnished to this high officer” lies whereit always has—in “the conduct of a court” applying estab-lished legal and constitutional principles to individual sub-poenas in a manner that preserves both the independenceof the Executive and the integrity of the criminal justice system. Burr, 25 F. Cas., at 34. The arguments presented here and in the Court of Ap-peals were limited to absolute immunity and heightened need. The Court of Appeals, however, has directed that thecase be returned to the District Court, where the President may raise further arguments as appropriate. 941 F. 3d, at 646, n. 19.6 The final footnote says this: quote:6The daylight between our opinion and JUSTICE THOMAS’s “dissent” is not as great as that label might suggest. Post, at 12. We agree that Presidents are neither absolutely immune from state criminal subpoenas nor insulated by a heightened need standard. Post, at 6, 11, n. 3. We agree that Presidents may challenge specific subpoenas as impeding their Article II functions. Post, at 6–7. And, although we affirm while JUSTICE THOMAS would vacate, we agree that this case will be remanded to the District Court. Post, at 12.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 16:13 |
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Here's a map of tribal land in 1866. https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4021e.ct003199/?r=0.124,0.082,0.815,0.42,0
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 16:30 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Correct. The arguments at the SCOTUS were limited to two subjects. Yeah, just finished reading the majority. I didn't realize that they were simply upholding the Court of Appeals remanding to the District Court, vice ruling directly on the subpoena itself.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 16:31 |
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The mayor of Seoul was reported missing and later found dead. This is one to keep an eye on I think.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 17:52 |
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ManMythLegend posted:The mayor of Seoul was reported missing and later found dead. Everything I've seen points to suicide, albeit without any suggestion of a motive.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 17:53 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Everything I've seen points to suicide, albeit without any suggestion of a motive. That's certainly possible, and probably explains why his body was recovered relatively quickly as the probably left a note or clues behind
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 17:58 |
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IIRC he had some sexual harassment allegations come up quite recently.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:09 |
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Was there a fan in the room?
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:11 |
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https://twitter.com/MylesMill/status/1281278590810808322?s=19 Look, it's a gesture in a poo poo city with a poo poo police department, but I'm allowing for the awesomeness of the Central Park Five being involved.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:34 |
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ded posted:Was there a fan in the room? He died outside so fan death can't be the cause.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:36 |
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facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/MylesMill/status/1281278590810808322?s=19 Omfg the comments Jesus these people just hate everything that doesn't validate their worldview. They're not consistent with anything other than that.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:44 |
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ded posted:Was there a fan in the room?
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:44 |
facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/MylesMill/status/1281278590810808322?s=19 https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/status/1279093836485210112
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:50 |
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An overlooked story of Quarantine Spring: While we were all distracted by Animal Crossing, the true obsessives shaved hours off the Breath of the Wild 100% speedrun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4xEngvNeGg
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:05 |
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UH OH https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1281285817072332805
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:11 |
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https://twitter.com/bbierschbach/status/1281270015535255552?s=21 Break out the flora and fauna safety slides.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:14 |
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^So the Minnesota National Guard deployed to loving Minneapolis and came away with 18 self/buddy-inflicted injuries? Edit: correction, 17 self/buddy-inflicted injuries and one from a squirrel. Probably something stupid like a warrant for parking tickets.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:15 |
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/michael-cohen-new-york-restaurant-prison July 3, 2020 posted:Michael Cohen could soon be back to chowing down in a prison cafeteria.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:15 |
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Godholio posted:Probably something stupid like a warrant for parking tickets. He was photographed eating a restaurant in violation of his parole/whatever.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:15 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:He was photographed eating a restaurant in violation of his parole/whatever. I mean, you're on loving home confinement because of COVID concerns, the president is yelling about you needing to stay in prison, and you break your home confinement to go eat INDOORS AT A RESTAURANT? Donnie knows how to pick 'em.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:18 |
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Even dumber.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:18 |
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.https://twitter.com/bbierschbach/status/1281281482514784257?s=19 I definitely think this is real. I remember Russia sending a signal ship to Djibouti and watching dudes being loving cavalier with everything. And that week we got a suspicious attachment of what tried to appear as a PDF of some report, from a strange .mil and sent that poo poo up the chain fast. I'm sure someone acted on it This was election season 2016.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:31 |
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facialimpediment posted:I mean, you're on loving home confinement because of COVID concerns, the president is yelling about you needing to stay in prison, and you break your home confinement to go eat INDOORS AT A RESTAURANT? He was sitting at a patio table and hung around until closing time. Just a total brain genius all around.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:33 |
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Can’t vouch for veracity, but looks bad! https://twitter.com/motherofdoggons/status/1281264673564786689?s=21
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:40 |
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LMFAO quarantine in the bush behind a piece of tape Get absolutely hosed
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:47 |
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The Cohen thing might be EVEN DUMBER https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1281300144974106624?s=19 https://twitter.com/AaronKatersky/status/1281299229026193411?s=19 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jul 9, 2020 |
# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:53 |
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mlmp08 posted:Can’t vouch for veracity, but looks bad! That dude's awesome because he's taking a huge loving hit for the team.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:54 |
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gently caress adjusting my earlier post, because WHAT https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1281301360114368513?s=19
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:58 |
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https://twitter.com/TomMcMahanDade/status/1281258754634387456?s=20
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:59 |
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facialimpediment posted:The Cohen thing might be EVEN DUMBER How does this moron remember to breathe? This is not at all what happened.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 20:04 |
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i don't see why people are freaking out over this. i'm sure the nations will consider petitions to set aside parts of their land for settlers to maintain their traditional way of life, and perhaps even provide reasonable relocation assistance.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 20:08 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 05:33 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:How does this moron remember to breathe? No Jurisdiction over Natives, yes they kinda gloss over that. Non-natives still fall under the state courts.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 20:12 |