July 2020 Damage Report: CHAD WOLF LISTENS TO NICKELBACK

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Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

How long until the public sees his taxes?

After the election probably lmao

https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/s...ingawful.com%2F

# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:30

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 21:01

As Nero Danced: Sep 3, 2009; Alright, let's do this

If I'm understanding it right, they said being president isn't immunity from subpoenas, but they kicked that cases back to see if he can come up with a better excuse to refuse than just being the president. Is that right?

# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:31

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1281233332202885123/photo/2

Looks like they want Congress to go through very careful path for a presidential subpoena otherwise it sets up a way for one branch to beat the other with the subpoena cudgel.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:32

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Yes

Edit:

Trump set to broad of an argument to block the taxes so they're saying send it back to lower courts to have a less broad argument and then it will probably have to go back up to supreme court again so probably not until next year

# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:32

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Can someone who's already read the full Vance opinion explain why NY prosecutors still won't get the documents even though their subpoena is valid?

# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:52

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; c-spam cannot afford

ManMythLegend posted:

Can someone who's already read the full Vance opinion explain why NY prosecutors still won't get the documents even though their subpoena is valid?

The only things at issue at the SCOTUS was whether the president had absolute immunity and whether the state had to demonstrate a heightened need before subpoenaing the president. Both arguments were rejected. However, Trump can still raise other arguments at the lower court as to why he shouldn't turn them over.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 15:58

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Mr. Nice! posted:

The only things at issue at the SCOTUS was whether the president had absolute immunity and whether the state had to demonstrate a heightened need before subpoenaing the president. Both arguments were rejected. However, Trump can still raise other arguments at the lower court as to why he shouldn't turn them over.

I thought Vance already involved an issued subpoena by NY prosecutors, and this case was the President's challenge to it?

# ? Jul 9, 2020 16:01

pantslesswithwolves: Oct 28, 2008; Ba-dam ba-DUMMMMMM

Trump is absolutely freaking out on Twitter right now so clearly he�s upset with how these rulings trended.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 16:04

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; c-spam cannot afford

ManMythLegend posted:

I thought Vance already involved an issued subpoena by NY prosecutors, and this case was the President's challenge to it?

Correct. The arguments at the SCOTUS were limited to two subjects.

quote:

Two hundred years ago, a great jurist of our Court estab-lished that no citizen, not even the President, is categori-cally above the common duty to produce evidence whencalled upon in a criminal proceeding. We reaffirm that principle today and hold that the President is neither abso-lutely immune from state criminal subpoenas seeking hisprivate papers nor entitled to a heightened standard of need. The �guard[] furnished to this high officer� lies whereit always has�in �the conduct of a court� applying estab-lished legal and constitutional principles to individual sub-poenas in a manner that preserves both the independenceof the Executive and the integrity of the criminal justice system. Burr, 25 F. Cas., at 34. The arguments presented here and in the Court of Ap-peals were limited to absolute immunity and heightened need. The Court of Appeals, however, has directed that thecase be returned to the District Court, where the President may raise further arguments as appropriate. 941 F. 3d, at 646, n. 19.⁶

The final footnote says this:

quote:

⁶The daylight between our opinion and JUSTICE THOMAS�s �dissent� is not as great as that label might suggest. Post, at 12. We agree that Presidents are neither absolutely immune from state criminal subpoenas nor insulated by a heightened need standard. Post, at 6, 11, n. 3. We agree that Presidents may challenge specific subpoenas as impeding their Article II functions. Post, at 6�7. And, although we affirm while JUSTICE THOMAS would vacate, we agree that this case will be remanded to the District Court. Post, at 12.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 16:13

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; c-spam cannot afford

Here's a map of tribal land in 1866. https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4021e.ct003199/?r=0.124,0.082,0.815,0.42,0

# ? Jul 9, 2020 16:30

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Mr. Nice! posted:

Correct. The arguments at the SCOTUS were limited to two subjects.

The final footnote says this:

Yeah, just finished reading the majority. I didn't realize that they were simply upholding the Court of Appeals remanding to the District Court, vice ruling directly on the subpoena itself.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 16:31

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

The mayor of Seoul was reported missing and later found dead.

This is one to keep an eye on I think.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 17:52

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

ManMythLegend posted:

The mayor of Seoul was reported missing and later found dead.

This is one to keep an eye on I think.

Everything I've seen points to suicide, albeit without any suggestion of a motive.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 17:53

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Everything I've seen points to suicide, albeit without any suggestion of a motive.

That's certainly possible, and probably explains why his body was recovered relatively quickly as the probably left a note or clues behind

# ? Jul 9, 2020 17:58

Handsome Ralph: Sep 3, 2004; Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!

IIRC he had some sexual harassment allegations come up quite recently.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:09

ded: Oct 27, 2005; Kooler than Jesus

Was there a fan in the room?

# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:11

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

https://twitter.com/MylesMill/status/1281278590810808322?s=19

Look, it's a gesture in a poo poo city with a poo poo police department, but I'm allowing for the awesomeness of the Central Park Five being involved.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:34

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

ded posted:

Was there a fan in the room?

He died outside so fan death can't be the cause.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:36

Wasabi the J: Jan 23, 2008; MOM WAS RIGHT

facialimpediment posted:

https://twitter.com/MylesMill/status/1281278590810808322?s=19

Look, it's a gesture in a poo poo city with a poo poo police department, but I'm allowing for the awesomeness of the Central Park Five being involved.

Omfg the comments Jesus these people just hate everything that doesn't validate their worldview.

They're not consistent with anything other than that.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:44

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

ded posted:

Was there a fan in the room?

# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:44

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

facialimpediment posted:

https://twitter.com/MylesMill/status/1281278590810808322?s=19

Look, it's a gesture in a poo poo city with a poo poo police department, but I'm allowing for the awesomeness of the Central Park Five being involved.

https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/status/1279093836485210112

# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:50

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

An overlooked story of Quarantine Spring: While we were all distracted by Animal Crossing, the true obsessives shaved hours off the Breath of the Wild 100% speedrun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4xEngvNeGg

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:05

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

UH OH

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1281285817072332805

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:11

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

https://twitter.com/bbierschbach/status/1281270015535255552?s=21

Break out the flora and fauna safety slides.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:14

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

^So the Minnesota National Guard deployed to loving Minneapolis and came away with 18 self/buddy-inflicted injuries? Edit: correction, 17 self/buddy-inflicted injuries and one from a squirrel.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

UH OH

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1281285817072332805

Probably something stupid like a warrant for parking tickets.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:15

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

UH OH

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1281285817072332805

https://www.foxnews.com/us/michael-cohen-new-york-restaurant-prison

July 3, 2020 posted:

Michael Cohen could soon be back to chowing down in a prison cafeteria.

The recently sprung jailbird was caught by The Post dining out on Manhattan’s Upper East Side — and the meal may cost him his freedom, legal experts said Friday.

Exclusive photos show President Trump’s former personal lawyer seated at a sidewalk table outside Le Bilboquet, a French restaurant around the corner from his Park Avenue apartment, on Thursday night.

Cohen, his wife, Laura, and another couple spent about an hour chatting before they became the last patrons to leave around 11:30 p.m.

At the time, staffers were preparing to close the eatery, where the “signature” dish of Cajun chicken costs $36 and a “New York Prime” steak is $55.

The Cohens both put on face masks before exchanging hugs with the other couple and walking off.

Cohen has also eaten at another posh, nearby restaurant, Avra Madison on East 60th Street, one source and one staffer told The Post.

“He’s nice, and used to come here all the time,” the staffer said of Cohen’s visit earlier this week.

Cohen, 53, is supposed to be serving a three-year sentence for crimes that include tax evasion, bank fraud and lying to Congress, as well as covering up hush-money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels and ex-Playboy model Karen McDougal.

But the federal Bureau of Prisons released him due to the coronavirus crisis on May 20 — even though a judge had refused to reduce his sentence for the same reason two months earlier.

“Ten months into his prison term, it’s time that Cohen accept the consequences of his criminal convictions for serious crimes that had far reaching institutional harms,” Manhattan federal Judge William Pauley wrote.

Cohen’s sentence is set to expire on Nov. 22, 2021, according to the BOP website.

At the time of Cohen’s release, his lawyer, Jeffrey K. Levine, told The New York Times, “He’s glad to be home in a safer and healthier environment.”

“It’s still his prison until his sentence is over,” Levine added.

But on Friday, Levine defended Cohen’s evening out, saying that Cohen “is currently on furlough” and that he “did not violate any of the terms and conditions of his release … and any assertion or suggestion to the contrary would be wholly inaccurate and untrue.”

The BOP form for furlough applications requires that an inmate provide a furlough address and acknowledge by signature that “I am authorized to be only in the area of the destination shown above and at ordinary stopovers or points on a direct route to or from that destination.”

Conditions listed on the form also include a provision that says, “I will not leave the area of my furlough without permission, with exception of traveling to the furlough destination, and returning to the institution.”

Ex-BOP official Cameron Lindsay, a former warden at the federal lockup in Brooklyn, said Cohen’s restaurant visit “doesn’t look right” and could be considered a violation of his furlough conditions.

“I find it unusual that he’s out to dinner,” said Lindsay, who now works as a consultant and expert witness.

“I don’t know that I ever remember furloughs being approved for social reasons.”

A prominent Manhattan defense attorney also called Cohen’s actions “something that I’ve never seen before” and said it was “common sense” that “he shouldn’t be dining at restaurants.”

“It’s a privilege to furloughed as a result of the coronavirus,” the lawyer said.

“His furlough should be revisited by the warden and it should be revoked.”

The BOP didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Cohen has eaten at Avra before — in April, 2018, he had a run-in there with Michael Avenatti — a fellow disgraced lawyer who has been recently sprung from federal prison over coronavirus concerns.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:15

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

Godholio posted:

Probably something stupid like a warrant for parking tickets.

He was photographed eating a restaurant in violation of his parole/whatever.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:15

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

He was photographed eating a restaurant in violation of his parole/whatever.

I mean, you're on loving home confinement because of COVID concerns, the president is yelling about you needing to stay in prison, and you break your home confinement to go eat INDOORS AT A RESTAURANT?

Donnie knows how to pick 'em.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:18

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Even dumber.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:18

Wasabi the J: Jan 23, 2008; MOM WAS RIGHT

.https://twitter.com/bbierschbach/status/1281281482514784257?s=19

I definitely think this is real.

I remember Russia sending a signal ship to Djibouti and watching dudes being loving cavalier with everything.

And that week we got a suspicious attachment of what tried to appear as a PDF of some report, from a strange .mil and sent that poo poo up the chain fast.

I'm sure someone acted on it :rolleyes:

This was election season 2016. :tinfoil:

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:31

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

facialimpediment posted:

I mean, you're on loving home confinement because of COVID concerns, the president is yelling about you needing to stay in prison, and you break your home confinement to go eat INDOORS AT A RESTAURANT?

Donnie knows how to pick 'em.

He was sitting at a patio table and hung around until closing time. Just a total brain genius all around.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:33

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

Can�t vouch for veracity, but looks bad!

https://twitter.com/motherofdoggons/status/1281264673564786689?s=21

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:40

MA-Horus: Dec 3, 2006; I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

LMFAO quarantine in the bush behind a piece of tape

Get absolutely hosed

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:47

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

The Cohen thing might be EVEN DUMBER

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1281300144974106624?s=19

https://twitter.com/AaronKatersky/status/1281299229026193411?s=19

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jul 9, 2020

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:53

not caring here: Feb 22, 2012; blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

mlmp08 posted:

Can�t vouch for veracity, but looks bad!

https://twitter.com/motherofdoggons/status/1281264673564786689?s=21

That dude's awesome because he's taking a huge loving hit for the team.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:54

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

gently caress adjusting my earlier post, because WHAT

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1281301360114368513?s=19

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:58

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

https://twitter.com/TomMcMahanDade/status/1281258754634387456?s=20

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:59

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

facialimpediment posted:

The Cohen thing might be EVEN DUMBER

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1281300144974106624?s=19

https://twitter.com/AaronKatersky/status/1281299229026193411?s=19

How does this moron remember to breathe?

CommieGIR posted:

https://twitter.com/TomMcMahanDade/status/1281258754634387456?s=20

This is not at all what happened.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 20:04

Doc Hawkins: Jun 15, 2010; Dashing? But I'm not even moving!

CommieGIR posted:

https://twitter.com/TomMcMahanDade/status/1281258754634387456?s=20

i don't see why people are freaking out over this. i'm sure the nations will consider petitions to set aside parts of their land for settlers to maintain their traditional way of life, and perhaps even provide reasonable relocation assistance.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 20:08

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 21:01

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

How does this moron remember to breathe?

This is not at all what happened.

No Jurisdiction over Natives, yes they kinda gloss over that. Non-natives still fall under the state courts.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 20:12

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