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Ash Crimson posted:Something's not right with this guy, you can tell he's not firing on all cylinders, that he's not exactly a man of the world, that the distance between his eyes is too large Hi! If you're just going to be 'clever' and tip-toe around the slur you actually want to say, then just say the slur so your posts generates even more reports , and you get probated even quicker! Win/win basically.
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Endorph posted:'Turned out' is a hell of a way to describe a guy who made a running joke out of calling a gay character a [Inf Edit: SLUR]. Dude was always bad. It says a lot that even in the reddit thread about this like 90% of the replies are 'yeah, im not surprised.' Sorry mate, you know slurs just straight up aren't allowed in Games; even in the context of repeating what somebody else said. Eat the six and don't do it again please. There were a couple of other reports I've taken a look at. The above 2 probes are the only ones I felt required actioning at this point in time. Please continue to hit the report button for any problem posts, or PM one of the Idiots Three and we'll pop by to have a look for you.
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Jul 9, 2020 15:25
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Infinitum posted:Sorry mate, you know slurs just straight up aren't allowed in Games; even in the context of repeating what somebody else said. it's a super cool look that you give a gay poster talking about how massively homophobic some jerk is a sixer saying not to drop slurs to make it look like they're the homophobic rear end in a top hat
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Jul 9, 2020 15:31
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a cartoon duck posted:it's a super cool look that you give a gay poster talking about how massively homophobic some jerk is a sixer saying not to drop slurs to make it look like they're the homophobic rear end in a top hat yeah, that's a mega yikes
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Jul 9, 2020 15:32
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hey mod/IK guy, the forums rules say the f and n words, can you ban lowtax or something?
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Jul 9, 2020 15:35
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also apparently in another thread implying someone is only pretending to be a lesbian or not being a lesbian correctly or whatever "internet lesbian" is supposed to mean is only shy of a sixer, so maybe have a think what this weird-rear end rules enforcement is accomplishing
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Jul 9, 2020 15:36
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I didn't report those posts because I am really tough and I can read stuff like that like it's nothing
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Jul 9, 2020 15:37
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corn on the cop posted:https://twitter.com/Scrubings/status/1280992979092725761 Mods knew
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Jul 9, 2020 15:39
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I mean, Games (and most subs, really) is very much under a zero tolerance policy for slurs even in just an illustrative context. It's not like this was the first probe someone ate for that.
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Jul 9, 2020 15:41
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Dias posted:I mean, Games (and most subs, really) is very much under a zero tolerance policy for slurs even in just an illustrative context. It's not like this was the first probe someone ate for that.
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Jul 9, 2020 15:55
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Dias posted:I mean, Games (and most subs, really) is very much under a zero tolerance policy for slurs even in just an illustrative context. It's not like this was the first probe someone ate for that. I'm fine with the spirit of that, but cmon, this is an obvious case where you just say "hey, please don't do it", especially in a thread like this one, instead of giving them the exact same punishment as the other guy. a cartoon duck posted:it's a super cool look that you give a gay poster talking about how massively homophobic some jerk is a sixer saying not to drop slurs to make it look like they're the homophobic rear end in a top hat
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Jul 9, 2020 15:56
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I'm just saying it's been the policy, even if it's illustrative, because it can be triggering and all that. Plus it's a sixer, no one is going to hold it against them.
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Jul 9, 2020 16:01
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Dias posted:I'm just saying it's been the policy, even if it's illustrative, because it can be triggering and all that. Plus it's a sixer, no one is going to hold it against them. quote:Come on mate, you know you're not allowed to just drop slurs in Games.
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Jul 9, 2020 16:04
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Hey guys, again the other thread was issued a warning and I had already requested a mod review of it as well. I should have been clearer on that as I was asked by a mod to check on on several reports that had been generated recently, to which I've reported back to them to ensure there are no issues with my decisions. Anything I'm borderline about, or unsure of , always has a second set of eyes on it afterwards. I've followed up again to ensure the right decision is made. Elephant Parade posted:the probe reason makes it sound like the slur was used directly, rather than referentially. Don't post slurs. They won't be tolerated. I don't care what the context is.
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Jul 9, 2020 16:14
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Elephant Parade posted:The probation reason is phrased such that it sounds like the slur was used directly, rather than illustratively, misleading people who don't click through. It could've been better phrased but I don't think it's a scarlet letter or whatever, and I don't think anyone is gonna be able to use it against her. We all get dumb probes sometimes — although that post in the FGC thread should've probably been hit too, and I don't even have the patience to debate her on that topic for the 120th time either. Anyway, on the FGC, Sonicfox got death threats from an abusive member of the furry community, and their roommate Nakkiel got accused of forcing his at the time GF into intimacy (it's a bit more complicated than that, I can't pull up the tweets right now, but other people have corroborated that he was pretty lovely). Dude's been having a terrible couple of weeks. :/ edit: fixing pronoun fuckup Dias fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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Jul 9, 2020 16:14
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So if a gaming figure uses a slur and that becomes relevant, how should we refer to it? By censoring it with asterisks? As "the f-slur"?
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Jul 9, 2020 16:19
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Infinitum posted:Don't post slurs. You should probably make it an actual rule of the forum, then
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Jul 9, 2020 16:27
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Infinitum posted:Hey guys, again the other thread was issued a warning and I had already requested a mod review of it as well. going back to committee to see if you hosed up after a whole bunch of LGBT posters tell you you hosed up and probated the wrong person for being "homophobic" while ignoring actual homophobic posts this is the stellar modding I've grown to expect from games
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Jul 9, 2020 16:29
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Infinitum posted:Hey guys, again the other thread was issued a warning and I had already requested a mod review of it as well. you got some real letter of the law vs spirit of the law issues. nobody objects to a rule saying homophobic slurs are bad so gay posters feel more welcome or whatever, but framing it so a gay poster just loves slurs for the crime of quoting said slur wrong, while treating another poster who all but says someone loves perpetuating rape culture because they're an "internet lesbian" with kid gloves is literally doing the opposite of what that rule's ostensibly supposed to do
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Jul 9, 2020 16:30
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Infinitum posted:Sorry mate, you know slurs just straight up aren't allowed in Games; even in the context of repeating what somebody else said. Infinitum posted:Hi! 
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Infinitum posted:Don't post slurs. if Games has a zero tolerance policy then so be it, but people are upset about the wording of the probe reason as dumb as it is people do like to pull someone's rap sheet as an argument on SA sometimes, and just saying they dropped a slur leaves a very different impression compared to something a bit more descriptive about what happened
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Jul 9, 2020 16:31
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Saagonsa posted:You should probably make it an actual rule of the forum, then yeah the fact that this actually isn't listed as a rule should probably be remedied if you're taking a actual zero tolerance policy by saying us gays can't say the word human being when just literally discussing the use of the word and not using it towards any person or in any way remotely resembling homophobia since you know, the only rule regarding it doesn't mention slurs at all and is instead against homophobia which this is clearly not an example of
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Jul 9, 2020 16:33
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everythingWasBees posted:yeah the fact that this actually isn't listed as a rule should probably be remedied if you're taking a actual zero tolerance policy by saying us gays can't say the word human being when just literally discussing the use of the word and not using it towards any person or in any way remotely resembling homophobia Wow, this looks like a reasonable suggestion!
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Yeah nah this thread is right. I've listened to your feedback, gone back to have another re-read in context, and they've been giving their marching orders. In my role as IK I am trying to be as supportive as I can be, and I want you to know that I'm I 100% have your back if someone is being homophobic/bigoted/racist/etc in threads. I hope this comes across in my posts whenever I have to stop in and make a decision, and I apologise if I give off a brusk or flippant impression by posting like an Aussie  In this case I made the wrong call the first time, as my personal modding style is to issue warnings more than probes. They're off for six, and they'll be looked at by a mod on top of it. Elephant Parade posted:So if a gaming figure uses a slur and that becomes relevant, how should we refer to it? By censoring it with asterisks? As "the f-slur"? Whatever people feel is appropriate/in-line with their posting style. Again, we just straight up don't want to see slurs, and I would ask for this threads support in this matter.
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Jul 9, 2020 16:38
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Infinitum posted:Don't post slurs.
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RottenK posted:if Games has a zero tolerance policy then so be it, but people are upset about the wording of the probe reason From the rules thread: quote:This is your brand new rules thread for the roaring 20s. I do not want to bog you all down in a load of rules because we try to be more flexible here but all you need to know is the following:
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everythingWasBees posted:yeah the fact that this actually isn't listed as a rule should probably be remedied if you're taking a actual zero tolerance policy by saying us gays can't say the word [Snip] when just literally discussing the use of the word and not using it towards any person or in any way remotely resembling homophobia I will talk with VideoGames about the policy, and ensure it's written out instead of the long standing unspoken rule it's been, and I will get back to you. I legit have to go to bed though, as it's close to 2am here in Australia. I'm asking very politely, for the moment, that you don't uses slur words ITT until I get back to you.
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I think it's permissable if it's a direct quote, but I'm not a mod.
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slurs against gay people can no longer be quoted by gay people in the games forum and now the world is saved  thank you idiot king
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Hi all. I was linked to this thread by Pragmatica. Apologies for being away from the forums I have had personal stuff that meant I left Games to be handled by Pragmatica and the IKs. I have asked an Admin to remove the probe from Endorph and she should be able to post again. I have also hit that other post in the FGC for longer. I get what Infinitum was going for. We are definitely trying to crack down on slurs as best as we can. I agree with grapplejack that direct quotes are permissable because the context for the word matters most of all. It was not directed at a poster here or to insult someone else, but a retelling of something. I have never codified that in the rules but then I have not had fellow mods for a while so I know what I mean by the way the rules are laid out. I think Infinitum has the ability to do well (his work in other threads has been great) and I think this was just a mistake. Most of all I apologise for not having seen the other posts sooner and doing something about it. It is not right for that poster to post about Endorph in that way. I am sorry.
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VideoGames posted:Hi all. I was linked to this thread by Pragmatica. Apologies for being away from the forums I have had personal stuff that meant I left Games to be handled by Pragmatica and the IKs.  going into a thread about sexual assault to punish gay people for complaining about homophobia. Of course, i get that times change. Perhaps jokes about children being raped into having aids were much funnier, seven months ago. Thank you for taking my question, and have a good day.
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Nuebot posted:You know, maybe nintendo was on to something with their friend code stuff given how rife with pedophiles and abusers their game communities seem to be. I'm reminded of our very own speed run thread that one year that started to descend into splatoon porn
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RBA Starblade posted:I'm reminded of our very own speed run thread that one year that started to descend into splatoon porn
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ErrEff posted:From the rules thread: im sorry, but what does this have to do with my post i agree that endorph didn't really deserve a probe, if that's what you mean
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Endorph posted:There was also a lot of porn of Kazooie, for some reason. Kazooie butt was funny at first, but it kinda snowballed into the Splatoon fiasco. It's one of the things that made me very, very sour on the whole "horny is just an expression of our sexuality", it can lead to some bad places.
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Jul 9, 2020 17:17
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There should be a law against people over the age of 17 playing nintendo
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Dias posted:Kazooie butt was funny at first, but it kinda snowballed into the Splatoon fiasco. It's one of the things that made me very, very sour on the whole "horny is just an expression of our sexuality", it can lead to some bad places.
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Jul 9, 2020 17:22
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Zongerian posted:There should be a law against people over the age of 17 playing nintendo
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Jul 9, 2020 17:24
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Infinitum posted:Sorry mate, you know slurs just straight up aren't allowed in Games; even in the context of repeating what somebody else said. gently caress you
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Zongerian posted:There should be a law against people over the age of 17 playing nintendo Finding out that the FEtuber in question is a loving sexmonster (and just a regular piece of poo poo in general, from the information that's been coming out from tweets/DM's/discord posts shared?), given all the accounts of previous behavior, feels like it was a long time coming. It loving sucks what Goosaphone had to go through but I'm glad that she's getting a lot of support from the community in general.
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