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Captain Foo posted:god drat there was a lot of apple chat in here for a Linux thread apple is technically a linux
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Is it also still officially an Unix? I remember they paid someone-or-other to become that or some poo poo?
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Jul 9, 2020 18:37
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Schadenboner posted:Is it also still officially an Unix? Its a bsd with heavily a heavily modified DE, KDE iirc(i probably don't)
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Jul 9, 2020 18:43
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RFC2324 posted:KDE iirc(i probably don't) you cant be this dumb
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Jul 9, 2020 18:46
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he's right you know
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Jul 9, 2020 19:05
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r u ready to WALK posted:he's right you know legendary linux design sense and attention to detail
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Jul 9, 2020 19:13
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If there's one thing the GNOME 2 HIG had right, it was that the default action should be an action verb on the bottom right. Those buttons on the about dialog, amazing.
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Jul 9, 2020 19:19
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Sassafras posted:If there's one thing the GNOME 2 HIG had right, it was that the default action should be an action verb on the bottom right. if you don't like how kde displays dialog actions, simply change the code and recompile it for yourself
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Jul 9, 2020 19:39
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the fact that it's been easier to pair a dualshock over bluetooth than use an official microsoft gaming controller for almost 15 years is hilarious
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Jul 9, 2020 20:27
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the current xbone controllers just work on bluetooth, but needing a dongle previously was egregious
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Jul 9, 2020 20:56
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akadajet posted:apple is technically a linux it’s not
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Jul 9, 2020 21:30
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r u ready to WALK posted:he's right you know I don't mind KDEs feature overload, but god drat does it always have such ugly typography. I can't put my finger on precisely what is going wrong, but there has always been something off.
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Jul 9, 2020 22:13
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Athas posted:I don't mind KDEs feature overload, but god drat does it always have such ugly typography. I can't put my finger on precisely what is going wrong, but there has always been something off. i mean, each individual glyph and string seems perfectly well rendered, but in that screenshot at least all element spacing is insanely weird
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Jul 9, 2020 22:19
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i mean, each individual glyph and string seems perfectly well rendered, but in that screenshot at least all element spacing is insanely weird The difference is striking when compared to the subtle elegance of every GNOME theme. 
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Jul 9, 2020 22:23
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Schadenboner posted:Is it also still officially an Unix? yes, OS X/macOS has been officially certified by The Open Group as a POSIX-compliant Unix implementation (since 10.5): https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/apple.htm
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Jul 9, 2020 22:59
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Captain Foo posted:it’s not you don't know what your talking about
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Jul 9, 2020 23:01
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akadajet posted:you don't know what your talking about its actually a bsd 
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Jul 10, 2020 00:24
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RFC2324 posted:its actually a bsd yeah, just like I said. it's a linux
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Jul 10, 2020 00:40
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xnu/linux, please
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Jul 10, 2020 01:49
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Athas posted:I don't mind KDEs feature overload, but god drat does it always have such ugly typography. I can't put my finger on precisely what is going wrong, but there has always been something off. not a single thing is centered or aligned properly in this about dialog
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Jul 10, 2020 08:21
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r u ready to WALK posted:he's right you know Fol... Inform.... Operat....
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Jul 10, 2020 12:32
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so far Microsoft seems to be treating "Series X" more-or-less like a typical hardware launch, perhaps with the exception of more liberal backwards-forwards-compatability. I suspected they would have that if they went pseudo third-party while keeping their hardware around as more of a specialty class item. the price, which they are with-holding, could hint at whether that's the approach. xCloud is way further along than I imagined it'd be. there were various betas this year on Android and iOS. my suspicion about MS radically changing their gaming business is probably weakened but still plausible IMO. Schadenboner posted:Is it also still officially an Unix? From Apple press release: > “macOS Big Sur is a major update that advances the legendary combination of the power of UNIX with the ease of use of the Mac, and delivers our biggest update to design in more than a decade,” said Craig Federighi, Apple’s senior vice president of Software Engineering. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-introduces-macos-big-sur-with-a-beautiful-new-design/ so it seems the next release is still POSIX, which is good obviously
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Jul 10, 2020 12:37
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Schadenboner posted:Is it also still officially an Unix? 10.15 is listed on opengroup.org as certified: https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/index.html i think every version since 10.5 (except maybe 10.7?) has been UNIX 03 certified
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Jul 10, 2020 13:01
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if Mac were to drop POSIX compatibility it would probably no be the de facto platform for web and mobile and I imagine that accounts for a third of it's sales
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Jul 10, 2020 13:08
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Zlodo posted:not a single thing is centered or aligned properly in this about dialog it's got the same "laid out by mashing the space bar" energy as garage sale flyers posted on the mailbox
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Jul 10, 2020 15:47
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go play outside Skyler posted:Fol... Inform.... Operat.... plz don't make fun of responsive design
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Jul 10, 2020 15:51
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now to be fair, it's not as if apple themselves is doing any better these days
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Jul 10, 2020 15:58
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carry on then posted:now to be fair, it's not as if apple themselves is doing any better these days I'm the Android Home Screen-esque "Schedule..." text string cutoff. ok, this is a beta but if they don't fix that before GM then hope is lost
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Jul 10, 2020 16:22
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crazysim posted:ok, this is a beta but if they don't fix that before GM then hope is lost It'll be fixed for US English and no other language.
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Jul 10, 2020 16:31
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I think you usually say that the hard disks were sent to a farm out in the country where they can have lots of room to stretch their spindles?
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Jul 10, 2020 16:33
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crazysim posted:I'm the Android Home Screen-esque "Schedule..." text string cutoff. that's the thing, the text is obviously not cut off someone just thought that ellipsis which make sense on menu items somehow also apply there even though it makes no sense
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Jul 10, 2020 16:54
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Zlodo posted:not a single thing is centered or aligned properly in this about dialog it’s kde, the jank is a feature
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Jul 10, 2020 16:57
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What in the goddamn gently caress is "Power Nap" and is there a way I can somehow inflict pain (physical, emotional, spiritual, several, or all) on whomever came up with the name?
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Jul 10, 2020 16:57
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Schadenboner posted:What in the goddamn gently caress is "Power Nap" and is there a way I can somehow inflict pain (physical, emotional, spiritual, several, or all) on whomever came up with the name? Connected standby, like what phones do. Intel standby used to be accomplished by powering off the CPU but keeping the memory controller running. When you resume, the CPU started up and ran the firmware which would perform the early stages of cold boot, but then observe that the memory controller was already running and return control to the in-memory OS via ACPI. The whole process takes a few seconds though. Nowadays Intel CPUs don't have any sort of power-off capability. Instead you power down the computer's peripherals and stop scheduling tasks, which lets you resume from sleep slightly faster (since you don't need to get firmware involved, you just signal the device drivers to reinitialize all the powered-down peripherals).
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Jul 10, 2020 17:05
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i like the way it's no longer possible to prevent certain models of computer from sleeping their network adapters, period, in windows 10. there are no power management settings that will prevent it, and no driver settings either. so if you expected the device to be always on for remote access, well, go gently caress yourself.
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Jul 10, 2020 17:12
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The weird mish-mash of (I don't know the term for it: W7-style and W10-style) control panels, the complete lack of indication what button will give you which style of control panel, and the universal uselessness of any W10 control panel is (especially bad with network settings). It's legitimately baffling to me why this is done. Are you supposed to be using powershell instead?  !E: Also, when I click on the loving volume I want the mixer 100% of the time, I am extremely unlikely to want to try out a new room profile.
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Jul 10, 2020 17:17
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Schadenboner posted:Are you supposed to be using powershell instead? yes i'm not even kidding, yes you are. if you need anything that isn't presented in the modern setting app you are supposed to use powershell, according to microsoft.
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Jul 10, 2020 17:30
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my new Thinkpad has a PCIe Ethernet NIC built into it which needs some 5000% markup proprietary cable to use. Naturally this is a different proprietary cable to the one that came with my previous Thinkpad, despite having a similar connector profile. This NIC also prevents Linux from suspending properly so I had to blacklist the kernel module. Anyway that's my power management story.
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Jul 10, 2020 17:32
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infernal machines posted:yes W10 is a desktop operating system, though? Point-and-Click is sort of the idiom-of-interaction?
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Jul 10, 2020 17:32
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Schadenboner posted:W10 is a desktop operating system, though? a) sir, this is the linux thread b) i know, i didn't make this poo poo, you don't need to tell me it doesn't make any sense* *it makes sense if you believe that most users will never under any circumstances need to access those settings, and power users can learn powershell if they need to gently caress with them. the first is untrue, and the second is just contempt for your users, but whatever
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