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A bigger blow to Turkish secularism is that wretched concrete abomination they're building in Taksim. And they still haven't repaired the green marble on the monument there.
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oz is a really poor MÎT asset and i am not surprised they pulled his funding which left him begging the daily mail for work
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Jul 10, 2020 17:29
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gradenko_2000 posted:someday the Who Must Go meme will catch up to Oz on all levels except his physical health, it pretty much has
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Jul 10, 2020 18:58
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Zedhe Khoja posted:I mean it is a mosque, it just wasn't an active one. This opens it up to services again which sucks and will make seeing the interior a worse experience, but some of the sensationalist headlines about them converting a church into a mosque are five centuries too late. It was a mosque but was a museum for most of modern Turkish history. Btw, it is a pretty big deal since it is a sign Erdogan is pushing for far further religious influence in the Turkish state and getting rid of secularism entirely. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 20:35 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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Jul 10, 2020 20:32
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yeah this hagia sophia stuff is just erdogan rubbing the secularists nose in poo poo. i wonder if theyre going to go through and recover all the byzantine christian stuff. that would be pretty lame tbh.
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Also the original declaration and change to a museum was done by Ataturk, so that's to be considered as well
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:yeah this hagia sophia stuff is just erdogan rubbing the secularists nose in poo poo. nah it'll just end up like the mini-Aya Sofia. Theres a few other byzantine churches-turned mosques that are still in active use. Not to mention all of the pre-ottoman mosques. You can visit but you have to be quiet and tiptoe around the worshippers. The demosquing of the Aya Sofia was one of the needlessly antagonistic things Ataturk did that I find suspect in hindsight. Alot of his "secularizing" reforms seemed custom-built to be time-bombs of resentment that didn't actually change much. All of that cultural energy replacing the alphabet and codifying what hats and coats men could wear.  My social group is mostly left wing, and the most "conservative" member has Ataturks signature on her tits. None of them have mentioned this, everyones still on the Grup Yorum starvations or Gezi Park stuff. Most native turks are processing it the same way cathlolics would if they opened St. Peters or Notre Dame for regular public services.
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gradenko_2000 posted:someday the Who Must Go meme will catch up to Oz it already did, he got work at some lovely tabloid rag and after using his company email to slander some suspected Assadist was forcibly removed from his desk while having a meltdown about integrity
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gradenko_2000 posted:someday the Who Must Go meme will catch up to Oz already happened https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1200516118558826496
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Jul 11, 2020 01:45
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could there be another war in lebanon?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1092567302531440640 Just wow on those borders of Turkey on that map.
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lol you had me anticipating it would be revanchist
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Missingnoleader posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1092567302531440640 Maybe Pompeo supports the Megali Idea and wants to cede western Anatolia to Greece 
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cool dance moves posted:Maybe Pompeo supports the Megali Idea and wants to cede western Anatolia to Greece greece waited too long those cores are gone now. They could have at least tried declaring a war or two just to maintain them, reset the counter, but they never did
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their badboy was too high dingus, did you want a colonial war with the uk
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Also, Argentina ended its recognition of Guaido back in January.
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Pompeo is really just always putting out great content https://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1281410086401904640?s=20
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Oh my god the replies are full of the saddest iranians alive I shouldve known the weirdos who fetishize some imaginary return to persian monarchy also blended with q anon https://twitter.com/Azarrestart/status/1281572937804517378?s=20 https://twitter.com/restartleader/status/1249789686731517966?s=20 https://twitter.com/RM_new3/status/1249794155209011203?s=20 Uhhhh 
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You can mock him all you want, but can you disagree that 1777 comes after 1776
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all of those accounts are paid for by the US state department. If they are posting for free, they're missing out on an easy paycheck
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they're an albanian bot farm iirc https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/06/twitter-iran-bots-mek/
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Oh my god the replies are full of the saddest iranians alive Ahahahhahaha what kind of fuckin clown waves a flag that has a gradient on it. gently caress outta here you dummy, come back when you get a real flag
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q10tPGVgEx8 This is %100 edit bts loves turkey soo much they cant accept a country who divide turkey
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eh this just seems like an unremarkable day in the middle east honestly unless of course the russians were paying these gunmen off in which case why isnt drumpf working to protect the lives of our troops?!
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I don’t know if you guys caught this, but a gigantic deal is being inked out between china and Iran that will basically give Iran a permanent economic lifeline in exchange for being and Economic/Military Protectorate of China. https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1282077216248074245?s=21
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That's huge. It also probably seals the death of the Indian-Iranian strategic alliance that was cut by India acquiescing to the oil sanctions. Might also mean closer relations between Iran and Pakistan in the future.
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From the NYT.quote:“Iran and China both view this deal as a strategic partnership in not just expanding their own interests but confronting the U.S.,” said Ali Gholizadeh, an Iranian energy researcher at the University of Science and Technology of China in Beijing. “It is the first of its kind for Iran keen on having a world power as an ally.” The proposed partnership has nonetheless stoked a fierce debate within Iran. Mr. Zarif, the foreign minister, who traveled to Beijing last October to negotiate the agreement, faced hostile questioning about it in Parliament last week. The document was provided to The Times by someone familiar with its drafting with the intention of showing the scope of the projects now under consideration. Mr. Zarif said the agreement would be submitted to Parliament for final approval. It has the support of Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, two Iranian officials said. Ayatollah Khamenei’s top economic adviser, Ali Agha Mohammadi, appeared on state television recently to discuss the need for an economic lifeline. He said Iran needs to increase its oil production to at least 8.5 million barrels a day in order to remain a player in the energy market, and for that, it needs China. Iranian supporters of the strategic partnership say that given the country’s limited economic options, the free-falling currency and the dim prospect of U.S. sanctions being lifted, the deal with China could provide a lifeline. "Every road is closed to Iran,” said Fereydoun Majlesi, a former diplomat and a columnist for several Iranian newspapers on diplomacy. “The only path open is China. Whatever it is, until sanctions are lifted, this deal is the best option.” The US sanctioned half the world and is now shocked that the nations it sanctioned will just start cooperating with each other. The concerns about Iranian indebtedness to China seems overblown, since China is far more willing to forgive debt than the West.
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Jul 13, 2020 04:59
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Not surprising, everyone knows a coup in Iran is the best starting move
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USA has had a magnificent grift regarding how international financial transactions have to go through its systems though. Not unlike how colonial trade had to go through the metropole. It has been legitimately hard and expensive for countries to cooperate without appeasing the USA. Do something they don’t like and lmao suddenly your central bank’s reserves are frozen.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/iran-executes-defense-ministry-alleged-cia-spy-360531quote:TEHRAN, Iran — Iran has executed a former employee of the defense ministry who was convicted of spying on behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency, the country’s judiciary said Tuesday. It was the second such execution in the past month.
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Why did you bold 2016? Surprised the person was not convicted of crimes dating to 2026?
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Al-Saqr posted:I don’t know if you guys caught this, but a gigantic deal is being inked out between china and Iran that will basically give Iran a permanent economic lifeline in exchange for being and Economic/Military Protectorate of China. Interesting. Iran really has no other option since the the EU nations have been all talk over maintaining the nuclear deal, but haven't managed to actually keep any trade going. It does show Chinese leadership believe the country can either isolate these type of investments from US sanctions and/or building these kind of geopolitical alliances are worth the cost of them. Although I do think it's hyperbole to say joint training exercises, joint R&D, and intelligence sharing makes Iran a protectorate of China. The Iranian and Chinese navies have already carried joint exercises.
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https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1087777454201163776 https://twitter.com/laurawags/status/1283050077070786563 who must go???
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