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Unohana did the drat thing and got the hell outta there, didn't even take the time to explain her bankai. She knew where that arc was going.
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I mean a key thing in that bit is that cool peak of her powers Unohana had actually lost to baby Kenpachi, who subconsciously suppressed it. A KEY moment in the ruining of Kenny.
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Jul 11, 2020 04:42
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There was that Swordsmith in the sky who had a sword that was so sharp that you couldn't even put it in a sheath because it would split it in two and I can't help but think that it would've been better to have just given that to Ichigo or Kenpachi, or even Yoruichi or Soi Fon much earlier on and not just have people dying for no reason. But a lot of the issues in the last arc can easily just be chalked up to his editors saying "Alright, wrap this poo poo up, this is your last arc" and when Kubo was dragging his feet on that they said "You have this many chapters left, end it" Kubo would've better as part of a team
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TheHan posted:Unohana did the drat thing and got the hell outta there, didn't even take the time to explain her bankai. She knew where that arc was going. I just wanted to see a blood-soaked fightjunky marriage proposal.  RealFoxy posted:There was that Swordsmith in the sky who had a sword that was so sharp that you couldn't even put it in a sheath because it would split it in two and I can't help but think that it would've been better to have just given that to Ichigo or Kenpachi, or even Yoruichi or Soi Fon much earlier on and not just have people dying for no reason. The smith used it himself, and immediately killed some top tier Wandenreich (Viking, Sniper, Askin). It didn't matter because Ywach resurrected them, though.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:kubo wrote sword manga: the swordening from start to finish without ever actually knowing anything about swords or swordplay. Excuse me what about Kenpachi's big moment of "actually you can swing a sword stronger if you hold it with 2 hands"? Also this is the Spinoff I want most; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryY_GW1hzxw Bible Ian Black fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Jul 11, 2020 |
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RealFoxy posted:There was that Swordsmith in the sky who had a sword that was so sharp that you couldn't even put it in a sheath because it would split it in two and I can't help but think that it would've been better to have just given that to Ichigo or Kenpachi, or even Yoruichi or Soi Fon much earlier on and not just have people dying for no reason. If it were just Kubo's problem, the Filler Arc Crew could have managed to come up with some decent stories in bleach's setting. Instead they did things like having a whole arc where the villain's ability was to totally neutralize shinigami powers which, while a little contrived, would be a good way to make the original karakura krew relevant for an arc. And then ichigo beats the villain singlehandedly by swording harder.
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Jul 11, 2020 22:23
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The Goldens etc were always really good.
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Schubalts posted:Unohana training Kenpachi by killing and reviving him until he managed to win was pretty metal. Shame that was the only thing she got to do, instead of like, having them go on a murder spree together against the Wandenreich. True, that owned. But I will go to the grave swearing her Bankai was some random and unexplained poo poo.
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RealFoxy posted:a lot of the issues in the last arc can easily just be chalked up to his editors saying "Alright, wrap this poo poo up, this is your last arc" and when Kubo was dragging his feet on that they said "You have this many chapters left, end it" This happened to toriko but that madman made gold out of it
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that wasn't actually what happened to bleach, though. bleach ended because kubo was deathly ill and no longer physically capable of doing a weekly manga. everyone thought it had been canned because bleach had been so bad for so long and was only getting worse, but it wasn't true.
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I watched Bleach up to like episode 40 while it was still airing and would catch the episodes every week and was extremely in to it. A big part of that was OP1 selling me on a show that didn't exist but I still have some nostalgia for that OP and am kiiiinda curious to see what happens afterwards
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watching op1 of bleach and then never reading or watching anything further from it is absolutely the ideal bleach experience.
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In my head it’s really good
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For all my gripes, I still really love Bleach for what it’s done and what it could’ve been. I would never recommend it. Schubalts posted:I just wanted to see a blood-soaked fightjunky marriage proposal. Kenpachi and Unohana did have the best chemistry of any of the canon couples.
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Terror Sweat posted:This happened to toriko but that madman made gold out of it Will we ever get another Toriko anime?
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no.
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Not without my approval
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I watched Bleach up to like episode 40 while it was still airing and would catch the episodes every week and was extremely in to it. A big part of that was OP1 selling me on a show that didn't exist but I still have some nostalgia for that OP and am kiiiinda curious to see what happens afterwards I am entirely on board for Kubo's next work to just be a slice of life about a group of punk friends who dress in snazzy outfits.
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The SS arc was a good arc damnit. Just stop reading/watching once Aizen beams up to Hueco Muendo.
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Monaghan posted:The SS arc was a good arc damnit. I just re-watched it recently and I’m starting to think... was it?Out of the invasion team only Ichigo and Uryu have anything substantial to do, lots of meaningless conversations between side characters who don’t do or contribute anything small or large later on, a lot of the background art that isn’t particularly creative and kinda a precursor to the empty backgrounds that came after. It has cool and creative fights but the majority of them go to Ichigo. I kept finding myself wanting to skip ahead to the cool parts because so much of it was just... bland and most of that cool stuff is loaded into the backhalf of the SS arc. Honestly the detective stuff at the start of the series was just much better. It was funny and you really had time to let the characters breathe, with cool action sequences in between all of it.
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SalTheBard posted:I want to start a podcast called Drinking Bleach were I review the anime in like 5 episode chunks along with the applicable manga chapters. I can't stop thinking about this idea and I'm going to start it next week (ish)
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Jul 14, 2020 00:38
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Ikkaku's Bankai loving sucked balls. May as well throw his sword away and start again with a new one, which I don't remember ever having been touched upon as something?
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Jul 14, 2020 00:41
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Tousen had two swords, or something to affect? It was never super clear but he did take his dead friend's sword and had two shikai. Mayuri also completely remade his bankai into a form 100% identical to its original after Uryuu exploded it and then later completely modified it into a new bankai in the Blood War.
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Jul 14, 2020 00:54
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Ten swords ten bankais, its not like the incompetent shits at soul society have anything better to do
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Jul 14, 2020 01:34
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Zanpaktou rules always seemed like they were supposed to be cosmic set-in-stone stuff except for all the times they didn't make any sense
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Jul 14, 2020 01:37
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SalTheBard posted:I want to start a podcast called Drinking Bleach were I review the anime in like 5 episode chunks along with the applicable manga chapters. I've already been doing a bleach recap pod and we'll be onto soul society next week. https://tvtuners.transistor.fm/
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Jul 14, 2020 01:40
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Ishida blowing up Mayuri's bankai should have killed him, Stand-style.
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I do feel like damaging someone's zanpakuto should have damaged them in kind. Maybe *gasp* it would've added actual tension to battles.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:I do feel like damaging someone's zanpakuto should have damaged them in kind. Maybe *gasp* it would've added actual tension to battles. There's a wonderful physicality to early Bleach that just gets completely lost later on. Ichigo becomes a Shinigami by being impaled. Urahara's training involves spiritually starving him until the chain on his soul comes to life and starts eating itself. Many of the early Hollow enemies actually physically injure the protagonists and limit their mobility, like those spikes from the plant-ghost that Inoue fights. Then you fast-forward a couple hundred chapters and it's just energy projectiles and people no-selling attacks with their bare bodies as far as the eye can see.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:There's a wonderful physicality to early Bleach that just gets completely lost later on. Really the strongest arc of it was the very beginning when it was like early YYH but with swords.
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Stairmaster posted:I've already been doing a bleach recap pod and we'll be onto soul society next week. THANKS FOR STEALING MY IDEA! (j/k thats awesome!, I will give it a listen!)
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:There's a wonderful physicality to early Bleach that just gets completely lost later on. also how zanpaktous were originally things like having a chain spear that you could assemble and disassemble at will, with the special power of 'has some ointment in the hilt'
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Jul 14, 2020 02:40
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I always thought he put the ointment there himself, and wondered about the implications.
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Ikkaku's Shikai was sick. It basically just turned into a halberd but he used it with so much style. And then his Bankai was some kind of giant...whatever the gently caress that was with a literal "gotta charge it up" meter and I'm just here going "ok" like Saitama.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:that wasn't actually what happened to bleach, though. bleach ended because kubo was deathly ill and no longer physically capable of doing a weekly manga. I think the blood war is a lot more self-aware than people give it credit for. Or I guess, Kubo always wanted to have his cake and eat it too. I don't know. I just know I remember every single plotbeat in a way my mind glazes over the Naruto war, a series I had much deeper ties to.
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The bleach uncyclopedia article is a nice little time capsule https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Bleach
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Stairmaster posted:I've already been doing a bleach recap pod and we'll be onto soul society next week. I'm a couple episodes in and the volume is super uneven, and sometimes when it switches speakers I can't hear what people are saying
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SalTheBard posted:I can't stop thinking about this idea and I'm going to start it next week (ish) I found another podcast with the concept so it seems 2020 is the year of bleach. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chugging-bleach-1-episodes-1-5/id1459979848?i=1000479283558 I think there is space for 3 bleach podcasts.
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