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I saw the trailer for lower decks and thought to myself "well it can't be any worse than star trek: picard," and then I remembered that I thought to myself "Well it can't be any worse than Stark Trek: Discovery" after seeing the initial trailers for Star Trek Picard.
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Clearly we just need to wait for the next horrible Star Trek thing to make us appreciate that Lower Decks isn't the worst thing they've ever done, is what I'm hearing. I never got to see the trailer before it was yanked so I guess I'll remain blissfully ignorant.
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Jul 13, 2020 17:57
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Martytoof posted:Clearly we just need to wait for the next horrible Star Trek thing to make us appreciate that Lower Decks isn't the worst thing they've ever done, is what I'm hearing. I'm not letting you get away that easily, this one isn't blocked in Canada either so don't even try that excuse. https://twitter.com/MikeMcMahanTM/status/1282368838894411776
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Jul 13, 2020 18:00
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Looks fine I have no idea what the gently caress any of you were expecting from "animated Trek comedy" Character humor doesn't really work in montage form unless you already know the characters
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Jul 13, 2020 18:05
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Martytoof posted:Clearly we just need to wait for the next horrible Star Trek thing to make us appreciate that [insert newest Star Trek here] isn't the worst thing they've ever done, is what I'm hearing.
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Jul 13, 2020 18:08
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Argo buggy (yes, THAT ONE) - check Smol dick - check Orion in crew in 2480 - check Wrong registry position - check Wrong hull construction - check Stupid posterior joke - check Cat-like Pulaski - check Battle bridge on a non-separable starship-check we're doomed.
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Jul 13, 2020 18:22
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TNG sucks! *DS9 premiers* DS9 sucks, why can’t it be as good as TNG? *VOY premiers* Voyager sucks, why can’t it be as good as DS9? *ENT premiers* Enterprise sucks, we need something other than Berman Trek! *DIS premiers* Hey Enterprise was actually pretty good. *PIC premiers* This is awful, when’s Discovery coming back?
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Jul 13, 2020 18:23
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HD DAD posted:TNG sucks! I am happy to confirm this is not the case and DS9 remains the only good not TOS-Trek
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Jul 13, 2020 18:29
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HD DAD posted:*DIS premiers* Who ever said this
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Jul 13, 2020 18:37
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OK I watched the trailer. It’s a comedy cartoon set in a Star Trek universe. That was about what I expected. I am guessing it’s not meant to be canon so I’m sure there aren’t actually guys sitting naked at stations or people getting hearts pumped by hand on starships or whatever so I’m trying to appreciate it for what it is. It was fine. Maybe a little heavy on the WACKY stuff which really annoyed me about shows like Final Space and Rick and Morty, which this seems to have in its DNA so I dunno, maybe that doesn’t bode well but I can see myself enjoying this and getting bored with it rather than outright hating it. THIS AIN’T YOU GRANDMA’S STAR TREK *rips shirt*
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skasion posted:Who ever said this Yeah as close as I've seen is "in retrospect, Enterprise had its moments"
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skasion posted:Who ever said this HD DAD is probably this forum's biggest and most ardent Enterprise supporter.
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Jul 13, 2020 20:10
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I'm in the 'compared to STD and Picard, Enterprise looks better' camp, but it certainly isn't good.
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Jul 13, 2020 20:42
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Peachfart posted:I'm in the 'compared to STD and Picard, Enterprise looks better' camp, but it certainly isn't good. Yeah, it's like bragging about being the toughest guy at a Depeche Mode concert. If I get a chuckle and a couple good Trek-y episodes out of it, I'll be happy. Hell, the TOS cartoon tackled some pretty heady ideas in a couple eps as I recall.
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Jul 13, 2020 20:47
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Enterprise was never bad It was just a letdown of our expectations It's "ok"
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Jul 13, 2020 20:48
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I was sad we didn't get to see more of Manny Coto's Enterpise. And I genuinely liked the production design and their take on a pre-TOS look, akiraprise complaints be damned.
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The biggest problem with Enterprise was that it was the same reheated concept that Voyager was with a slightly different setting, which was that same as TNG was with a slightly different setting. The second biggest problem was most of the crew were boring, forgettable and one-dimensional. But I guess it was actual star trek so it had that going for it.
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Jul 13, 2020 21:19
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Timby posted:HD DAD is probably this forum's biggest and most ardent Enterprise supporter. I will happily wear that badge, gently caress it.
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Jul 13, 2020 21:52
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Peachfart posted:The biggest problem with Enterprise was that it was the same reheated concept that Voyager was with a slightly different setting, which was that same as TNG was with a slightly different setting. I groaned out loud the first time I heard "hull plating down to 15%" Esp because it was airing roughly concurrent to New BSG, which showed that you could have a lot more of a visceral and compelling presentation of battle damage with unshielded ships duking it out rather than just making it a search-and-replace in unused scripts for "shields" health bar.
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Jul 13, 2020 21:54
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HD DAD posted:I will happily wear that badge, gently caress it. Wholeheartedly supported. I'd wear it right now but the law blog tells me not to.
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Jul 13, 2020 22:03
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The Bloop posted:Enterprise was never bad So A Night In Sickbay was okay, not bad? Bold claim.
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Torrannor posted:So A Night In Sickbay was okay 
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Torrannor posted:So A Night In Sickbay was okay, not bad? Using TNG as the gold standard for Good Trek doesn't mean that Shades of Gray, Code of Honor, and Profit and Lace are good episodes But actually I don't have a problem with A Night in Sickbay at all, there are far worse episodes of Trek
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Jul 13, 2020 22:13
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A Night in Sickbay is the type of episode that would be good as a breather/character hour on a show that was usually thrilling and dramatic.
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Honestly the worst episode of Enterprise is probably Bounty, which was just an embarrassing excuse to make T’Pol go through Pon Farr, or Singularity, which didn’t make a lick of sense and was also boring as hell.
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Jul 13, 2020 22:19
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No episode of enterprise is as bad as all of them
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Jul 13, 2020 22:39
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Hoshi Sexpest planet is my vote for worst But genocide planet and every horny decon gel / psychic massage is next
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Jul 13, 2020 22:50
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AntherUslessPoster posted:Wholeheartedly supported. I'd wear it right now but the law blog tells me not to. Enterprise goons assemble. DS9 is still my favourite Trek, but after that I'd rate TOS, TNG and ENT as equal 2nd place.
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Jul 13, 2020 22:51
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The main problem with DISCO is that it has few distinct episodes because they're doing the Prestige Drama thing
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Martytoof posted:It’s a comedy cartoon set in a Star Trek universe. That was about what I expected. I am guessing it’s not meant to be canon so I’m sure there aren’t actually guys sitting naked at stations or people getting hearts pumped by hand on starships or whatever so I’m trying to appreciate it for what it is. IDK if CBS has come out and said definitively that it's canon, but the showrunner has gone on record as saying it's supposed to be--"Within Lower Decks, there is a proper in-canon Star Trek show [...] It was important to me that if you know everything about Star Trek and you watch this show then it fits into canon and doesn't break Star Trek."
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I'd think the canon is a square/rectangle situation—the events of Lower Decks aren't true for the rest of Trek, but the events of the rest of Trek are true for Lower Decks.
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feedmyleg posted:I'd think the canon is a square/rectangle situation—the events of Lower Decks aren't true for the rest of Trek, but the events of the rest of Trek are true for Lower Decks. And then there's that tribble breakfast cereal commercial, which nobody loving knows where the hell that goes, canon-wise.
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Jul 14, 2020 00:24
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Powered Descent posted:And then there's that tribble breakfast cereal commercial, which nobody loving knows where the hell that goes, canon-wise. gamma canon!
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The Bloop posted:The main problem with DISCO is that it has few distinct episodes because they're doing the Prestige Drama thing Also, that they don't bother to develop any characters except Michael. Who is still pretty badly developed.
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Peachfart posted:Also, that they don't bother to develop any characters except Michael. Who is still pretty badly developed. Stares at you quietly crying
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Crying every 5 minutes is a character trait, we swear
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Uncle Lloyd posted:IDK if CBS has come out and said definitively that it's canon, but the showrunner has gone on record as saying it's supposed to be--"Within Lower Decks, there is a proper in-canon Star Trek show [...] It was important to me that if you know everything about Star Trek and you watch this show then it fits into canon and doesn't break Star Trek." I’d be betting more that it doesn’t break Star Trek in that they’re going to follow the established canon and IF it does establish some canon, it’ll be referred to only in serious tones. feedmyleg posted:I'd think the canon is a square/rectangle situation—the events of Lower Decks aren't true for the rest of Trek, but the events of the rest of Trek are true for Lower Decks. Yeah I this makes more sense to me. Like in the next year, one of these zany cartoon ensigns will go talk about what a great captain Picard was, but in twenty years you won’t have anyone on [future serious Star Trek prestige show] referencing the wacky hyjinx of weird robot eye ensign or how Captain generic chestbumped his first officer or whatever that was. The exception for subtle fan service could always exist I guess. Anyway, I’m not super pessimistic about it. Like it can’t be any less enjoyable than the stupid Disco time angel thing was so v  v
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Oh gently caress now I want them to do a Trials and Tribble-ations type live action/cartoon mashup with TOS DS9 or TNG
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The Bloop posted:Looks fine https://sfdebris.com/ It would be a good start.
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