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Solice Kirsk posted:The heart wants what the heart wants. the heart also wants what the dick wants
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Google News needs to be put into "witness protection". Holy gently caress. Somebody says something on the podcast then I'm hearing about it for weeks from various two bit websites passing themselves as news outlets
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Jul 16, 2020 22:48
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PostNouveau posted:Least believable thing on the show: Johnny Cakes guy gets with Vito after their fight. You got your poo poo together dude, you're like a catch, how you gonna get with a guy who goes for a loving pipe in a fistfight? I always viewed their relationship as a 'Jerry Seinfeld pulls mad rear end from different hot women every week' suspension-of-disbelief thing, and thought the arc would have been more impactful if we just saw Vito realizing himself fully in a way that wasn't a forced romcom. That arc could have been really groundbreaking and award-bait through and through but meh, let's have this chungus gently caress a hot firefighter bro and have him feel 'weird'
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Pissed Ape Sexist posted:I always viewed their relationship as a 'Jerry Seinfeld pulls mad rear end from different hot women every week' suspension-of-disbelief thing, and thought the arc would have been more impactful if we just saw Vito realizing himself fully in a way that wasn't a forced romcom. That arc could have been really groundbreaking and award-bait through and through but meh, let's have this chungus gently caress a hot firefighter bro and have him feel 'weird' I give the show an "A" for effort and addressing a gay mafia member certainly had interesting possibilities. I didn't mind the Vito-centric spiral as much as some but a lot of it was forced and hit or miss. My biggest gripe was how a pretty good looking dude like Johnny Cakes fell for this obese, unattractive, temperamental weirdo who obviously had more than a few problems. Vito was out of his league.
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Jul 16, 2020 23:56
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I'm not talking about the attractiveness. Different strokes and all. Vito tried to beat him with a pipe and also lied to him for months about his identity, and the guy still lets him move in. Johnny Cakes kinda has a spaz out about Vito helping out at an emergency, but other than that he seems like a totally normal, healthy person. You gotta have at least one scene where you walk away from it like "oof, that guy's mom did a loving number on him". I think they're going for the beginning of a codependent relationship where Vito is damaged as gently caress and the guy the type who sees himself as a saint for "fixing" him. I also had a laugh at the part where Vito cuts the electricity during an emergency. They set up like a loving "Saw" scenario to get to a point where Vito could help. "Help! The basement is flooding and also electrified!"
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PostNouveau posted:I'm not talking about the attractiveness. Different strokes and all. That's what I meant by "temperamental" and "having more than a few problems". It's not like Johnny was blinded by from all this by Vito's raw charisma and stunning good looks (or even his money), which would have been more believable at least and is generally where blind spots in relationships develop in my experience. Maybe I should have gone into it in more detail. I generally agree with you.
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watching the show for the first time, already hooked. just finished College. i've been very impressed with the show's depiction of depression and anxiety attacks. most every panic attack I've ever seen in tv or movies looks theatrical and cartoony. i used to just pass out so i felt for tony. that's one thing I really enjoy about the show, you can very easily relate and empathize with all the characters, even the monsters. chris is far and away my favorite character. it's such a perfect depiction of an addict's state of mind and attitude. everybody sort of knows a Chris I think. if you don't you might be the Chris I'll buy you one of those happy meals, alright?
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Jul 17, 2020 23:17
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Low Desert Punk posted:I'll buy you one of those happy meals, alright? Where the gently caress are you?
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Low Desert Punk posted:watching the show for the first time, already hooked. just finished College. i've been very impressed with the show's depiction of depression and anxiety attacks. most every panic attack I've ever seen in tv or movies looks theatrical and cartoony. i used to just pass out so i felt for tony. that's one thing I really enjoy about the show, you can very easily relate and empathize with all the characters, even the monsters. You've already seen the one episode I would use to sell people on the show with College. Welcome to the family.
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Jul 18, 2020 00:43
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gently caress the Johnny-Uncle Junior prequel, make a theatrical version of "Cleaver".
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Jul 18, 2020 08:13
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Low Desert Punk posted:watching the show for the first time, already hooked. Man, I wish I could experience that again. Enjoy! I'd recommend reading the recaps here after each episode.
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Jul 18, 2020 14:18
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Fuckin' Lin Manuel Miranda appearance out of nowhere I'm sure literally out of nowhere in those days.
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Jul 18, 2020 14:35
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PostNouveau posted:Fuckin' Lin Manuel Miranda appearance out of nowhere Love those kinds of 'cameos' before they were famous.  Lady Gaga  Perez Hilton  Paul Dano Tony Hale Will Arnett is also in there somewhere.
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Jul 18, 2020 14:48
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Vichan posted:
Yeah, he's the husband of the FBI agent who goes undercover to make friends with Adriana.
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Jul 18, 2020 14:51
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The scene where Tony's prodding Paulie about the joke about Ginny Sac while sizing up all the various ways he could kill him is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyq7YAvU7fc
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Jul 18, 2020 15:15
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PostNouveau posted:The scene where Tony's prodding Paulie about the joke about Ginny Sac while sizing up all the various ways he could kill him is great. Also Paulie's realization this might be his last boat ride is also great. He might claim to not think of Pussy, but he knows what can happen out at sea.
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Jul 18, 2020 15:16
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I had forgotten that, with how incredible the series was from the beginning, there's still a bit of sitcom poo poo in the first few episodes. Before the long-term storylines start to settle in, Paulie, Pussy, and even Silvio have sort of a "caper of the week" thing going. First with AJ's teacher's stolen car, then the episode with the Hassidic Jews that leads to them owning part of the motel. I may be forgetting a few.
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Jul 18, 2020 15:28
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The end of the massive genius episode is so hokey. "Now THAT is a hit!"
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Jul 18, 2020 22:59
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Though the songs they put together for Defiler/Visiting Day were perfect. I don't think they were ever released which is a shame. "No way man, 'Sharon's Chair' is going to be our first single" "I like 'Melt'!"
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Jul 18, 2020 23:15
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Jul 18, 2020 23:24
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Though the songs they put together for Defiler/Visiting Day were perfect. I don't think they were ever released which is a shame. "I've recorded in DENMARK" is a great line.
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Binged through to the end today. A lot of stuff that bugged me the first couple watch throughs didn't nearly as much. I completely forgot AJ's big dream was to be Donald Trump's helicopter pilot. I know the Master of Sopranos essay on the POV shots in the final scene get dismissed now. Everybody's on the "it's ambiguous live with it" train. But drat if it ain't still convincing every time I watch that scene. https://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-definitive-explanation-of-the-end/
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I had forgotten that, with how incredible the series was from the beginning, there's still a bit of sitcom poo poo in the first few episodes. Before the long-term storylines start to settle in, Paulie, Pussy, and even Silvio have sort of a "caper of the week" thing going. First with AJ's teacher's stolen car, then the episode with the Hassidic Jews that leads to them owning part of the motel. I may be forgetting a few. And more than anyone else, I think Silvio's stories are the saddest. He charms it all away usually but he is a mean loving pimp with a heart of ice, even among his fellows. "University" really lays it out. Everyone else gets a touch of comedy but Sil? He's usually a darker note in whatever story he's in.
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phasmid posted:And more than anyone else, I think Silvio's stories are the saddest. He charms it all away usually but he is a mean loving pimp with a heart of ice, even among his fellows. "University" really lays it out. Usually. Sil immediately falling apart when Tony gets shot and he gets the added stress of being acting boss was pretty funny.
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Jul 19, 2020 04:51
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PostNouveau posted:Usually. Sil immediately falling apart when Tony gets shot and he gets the added stress of being acting boss was pretty funny. Didn't he immediately fall ill from the pressure?
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Jul 19, 2020 05:08
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Silvio saying re: Ralphie: "He beat that girl to death for.... I forget why?" is incredibly black comedy/depressing as hell.
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phasmid posted:Didn't he immediately fall ill from the pressure? That's what I'm sayin'
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Jerusalem posted:Silvio saying re: Ralphie: "He beat that girl to death for.... I forget why?" is incredibly black comedy/depressing as hell. She was a ho-ar
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"Gab told me Vito Jr...went into the litter box and ate some cat poo poo?" "No, he took a poo poo. In the shower" "Glad we got that straight"
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Pope Corky the IX posted:"Gab told me Vito Jr...went into the litter box and ate some cat poo poo?" https://twitter.com/sopranosnocnxt/status/1095080735570980867
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You have any idea what that's gonna cost... ... Your mother?
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"You gonna take care of his kids?" "Yeah...they didn't do nothin'"
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Jul 19, 2020 23:46
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Like a pebble in a lake, even the fish feel it.
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PostNouveau posted:That's what I'm sayin'  That's what I get for posting late. Yeah. I just never quite looked at the character in the same way again. He appears at first like a friendly guy (who also looks like a mortician but hey) so the contrast with him being possibly the most lethal and most callous of the crew was a strange twist. His wife put up with him though so maybe he didn't bring work home.
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I always wondered how it worked with Vito having a goomah. He wasn't sleeping with her and it was all for show, but what was she getting out of it?
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Jul 20, 2020 05:54
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She got to record his anonymous biker encounters.
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pentyne posted:I always wondered how it worked with Vito having a goomah. He wasn't sleeping with her and it was all for show, but what was she getting out of it? Free rent and fancy nights out on the town without the fear of being raped/physically assaulted at the end of the night?
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They did start off their relationship having sex, so he was either trying to keep up appearances on ALL fronts or trying to fool himself that he wasn't REALLY gay for a long time.
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Yeah, he also had two kids with Marie and then suggests a third.
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