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There's also the problem of if he reads from the bible his pants start on fire and stormclouds immediately blow in. A terrible snipe, have a picture of my cat: 
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Manager Hoyden posted:Are you kidding? Open an official inquiry, make some people come and officially testify about it. At the very least shine some light and send the message that some parts of our federal government do not support these acts. The problem with this is while you have the Congress following the law and  Trump and all his enablers do not care. You could pass every law against it but it is impossible to enforce it when they have shown zero inclination of following any law before. This is why this behavior mattered before and this is yet another sign that we are a failed state.
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Djarum posted:The problem with this is while you have the Congress following the law and But like, there's no law that says the President and his cronies have to follow the law....
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I mean they could always stop funding the military and secret police, since they've been screaming for four years that he's a dictator and a Russian spy
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Charlz Guybon posted:Maybe you shouldn't have kept renewing the patriot act. Uh oh....we're due for a strongly worded letter. In all seriousness, it's frustrating as hell when our elected leaders sit on the sidelines wringing their hands. What do we elect these people for? I realize that they're somewhat limited in their powers, but I'm so sick and tired of Republicans eternally upping the fascist ante and Democrats living up to their depiction in that Tim Kreider cartoon.
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Feldegast42 posted:Immediately strip funding from the secret police so you want them to send a bunch of strongly worded letters
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Congress should immediately supeona all documents and organizers of the Portland poo poo, and use inherent contempt of they do not comply. Start arresting people. Make the lives of the ones doing it very difficult until they are gone. They can't pass bills due to the Senate, but they could at least do something.
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mistaya posted:A terrible snipe, have a picture of my cat: That’s a pro-level Flooflord/lady, please give them skritches on my behalf. F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Uh oh....we're due for a strongly worded letter. It’s because a ton of the Dems are looking for the same end goal of the Republicans (concentrate the wealth in the hands of the elite and leave the remainder of us scum in glorified indentured servitude). Pelosi can’t get too nasty towards her corporate masters, lest they cut off her money supply.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Congress should immediately supeona all documents and organizers of the Portland poo poo, and use inherent contempt of they do not comply. Start arresting people. Make the lives of the ones doing it very difficult until they are gone. Let's be realistic. They should do this, but there's a good chance the SCOTUS would just shut it down and nothing would happen.
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I mean yeah the president is illegally kidnapping protestors and dem house leadership has said this is unacceptable but have you considered that both sides are the same?
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pacerhimself posted:I mean yeah the president is illegally kidnapping protestors and dem house leadership has said this is unacceptable but have you considered that both sides are the same? Look, we all know Hillary would have kidnapped just as many protestors
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Congress has no authority over the executive if you guys haven't noticed. The President just tells agency's to ignore Congress the funding is already passed. It's up to Govenors to protect the people from a over reaching President.
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pacerhimself posted:I mean yeah the president is illegally kidnapping protestors and dem house leadership has said this is unacceptable but have you considered that both sides are the same? Which side whipped votes to approve record levels of funding for the gestapo agencies under Trump in exchange for a pinky promise that Pence would let them know if a child prisoner died in US custody? Please, remind me.
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Jul 18, 2020 16:08
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Shut the gently caress up Mat
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is there reason to believe the dems are actually interested in empowering and protecting activists? with all the support ive seen them throw at the security state im a little skeptical
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pacerhimself posted:Shut the gently caress up Mat If you can’t accept that we got into this situation due to bipartisan consensus on policing and the security state, then it is indeed you who are the baby, and must shut the gently caress up.
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selec posted:If you can’t accept that we got into this situation due to bipartisan consensus on policing and the security state, then it is indeed you who are the baby, and must shut the gently caress up.
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No, it is very much a problem that they continue to pass laws that grant the executive such broad powers. These kinds of things were foreseeable, but ignored to not rock the boat. We're in unprecedented times, and Dems continue to be the other team in an airbud movie
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punishedkissinger posted:is there reason to believe the dems are actually interested in empowering and protecting activists? with all the support ive seen them throw at the security state im a little skeptical Biden has millions of dollars of campaign money squirreled away for lawyers. It’d be a great olive branch to the left if those lawyers worked on shutting the disappearances down. That’s one thing they could easily do, and which I would think a Sanders campaign would be doing. They’re not interested in curbing police power because they know the unrest is going to get worse after the election.
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Greataval posted:Congress has no authority over the executive if you guys haven't noticed. The President just tells agency's to ignore Congress the funding is already passed. It's up to Govenors to protect the people from a over reaching President. Trumps entire presidency has challenged the balance of power between branches. So much of what Congress could “actually” do does amount to strongly worded letters, it’s just that for forever that been all it takes. Trump just ignores the letter and keeps going, which is something our stupid system of governance never really accounted for. Alternatively I’ve heard the situation summed up as the founders planned on how to handle a corrupt individual, but not a corrupt party/multiple branches.
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post better and/or stop slapfighting just because the fash are blackbagging protesters and gearing up to occupy multiple American cities is no reason to take it out on your fellow goons and make the thread bad
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pacerhimself posted:I mean yeah the president is illegally kidnapping protestors and dem house leadership has said this is unacceptable but have you considered that both sides are the same? yeah, they said child concentration camps were unacceptable too then trump said "money please" and they responded "oh yes of course, don't worry about those left wingers saying we shouldn't do that, we'll rouse a racist backlash against them ourselves, you don't need to tweet about it" for some reason trust in them is low!
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Iirc the FEDERAL guy for Oregon also got mad, which is unusual since he's, you know, DOJ, but it's good to see Oregon's top cop has a line that distresses him.
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selec posted:If you can’t accept that we got into this situation due to bipartisan consensus on policing and the security state, then it is indeed you who are the baby, and must shut the gently caress up.  GreyjoyBastard posted:post better and/or stop slapfighting Not trying to be snarky here but it seems like the only people doing slapfight poo poo are the ones upset at being asked to not perpetuate historical revisionism about how both parties explicitly enable fascist violence, no matter how much they wring their hands or perform wokeness in public. Just one man's opinion anyway!
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We need more people on the streets.. Roll the vans, slash their tires, set them on fire, and make sure anyone who was inside can't walk away unaided.
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mistaya posted:There's also the problem of if he reads from the bible his pants start on fire and stormclouds immediately blow in. I want to cut the loose hairs off of the bottom of your cat's feet.
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selec posted:If you can’t accept that we got into this situation due to bipartisan consensus on policing and the security state, then it is indeed you who are the baby, and must shut the gently caress up. Sadly, im inclined to agree
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selec posted:Biden has millions of dollars of campaign money squirreled away for lawyers. It’d be a great olive branch to the left if those lawyers worked on shutting the disappearances down. That’s one thing they could easily do, and which I would think a Sanders campaign would be doing. yeah, this isn't gonna get better for a while, and we know Biden's historical stance on what should be done with people protesting for civil rights. makes a certain amount of sense. why tie up valuable legal time freeing people you think belong in jail for upsetting suburban whites anyway
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Mat Cauthon posted:Not trying to be snarky here but it seems like the only people doing slapfight poo poo are the ones upset at being asked to not perpetuate historical revisionism about how both parties explicitly enable fascist violence, no matter how much they wring their hands or perform wokeness in public. The bad guys on one side: "Please give me money for secret police." The bad guys on the other side: "Okay we are enthusiastically giving it to you." Us: "Gee, seems like both sides are pretty bad when it comes to the police state!" Shitheels: "lol that's just bothsidesism right  "
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GreyjoyBastard posted:post better and/or stop slapfighting I have no idea what the slapfights are about, but this is a genuinely terrifying juxtaposition.
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Raising awareness is a good first step, action follows words and intent. But it is the case there's not a lot that can be done other than voting him out.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Raising awareness is a good first step, action follows words and intent. But it is the case there's not a lot that can be done other than voting him out. yeah im sure the dems will stop authorizing the patriot act once he's gone
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I know and all that but I'd love a not so thinly veiled threat that a Biden presidency is going to include investigations into everyone involved in all this poo poo.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Raising awareness is a good first step, action follows words and intent. But it is the case there's not a lot that can be done other than voting him out. A week of coast to coast protests got more done as far as getting local and state governments to start curbing police power than any elected official. The cops are acting out now because they see their power threatened. There's a whole hell of a lot that could be done between now and November, and the easiest option is getting a critical mass of people back out in the streets. Saying that voting is our only or even best option is liberal defeatism.
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Mat Cauthon posted:A week of coast to coast protests got more done as far as getting local and state governments to start curbing police power than any elected official. The cops are acting out now because they see their power threatened. Direct action does indeed get the goods.
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cr0y posted:I know what in Joe Biden's record would lead you to believe he views the restoration of law and order at the expense of protesters as anything other than an unalloyed good
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This Portland DHS/ Border Patrol Gestapo poo poo only confirms for me that the National Guard and other armed services told him to gently caress off and die, and the Donut Nazi Brigade that is ICE is the only group remotely loyal to Trump, and only Trump DHS will have to completely purged with the incoming adminstration TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jul 18, 2020 |
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I remember unmarked-FEDS-van grabs in Minneapolis either the night after or within the first few nights of the first George Floyd protest. At the time they still had not identified themselves to anyone or been discovered to be DHS, so it was assumed they were local cops.
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