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If users will never have to interact with them why go to the trouble of W10ing them, though? Just leave the W7s there (which loving worked, at least)? I really do make a good-faith effort to ask myself "Within their own context, how did they think this was going to be interacted with?" with most technology products. I get that design is hard (and that most UI/UX people are especially bad at it). But this poo poo is a loving mess.
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yes its a piece of poo poo operating system
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Schadenboner posted:If users will never have to interact with them why go to the trouble of W10ing them, though? Just leave the W7s there (which loving worked, at least)? there may be some confusion, i believe the assumption is that users don't need settings that haven't been moved to the modern ui settings panel. the settings that are in the panel are the ones people use, the rest are for the kind of grognards who should be forced to learn powershell. the legacy control panel is vestigial and probably only still exists because their 30 year legacy of cruft would melt down if they actually removed it. you're not supposed to use it though, and if they could keep you from opening it entirely they probably would tl;dr: pram posted:yes its a piece of poo poo operating system
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itshappening.gif F33 System-Wide Change: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants got approved today
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Tankakern posted:itshappening.gif  Move fast and break things is appropriate for fedora core. The more this gets used, the faster that widespread support will be available. I'm still not on board for filesystem level encryption, since block encryption (via luks) is an easier concept to test and wrap heads around when modeling for threats. But having encryption keys at the subvolume level (which I believe the current design is going for) can make for some nifty solutions. Maybe this is the successor to eCryptfs?
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btrfs is great apart from all these common use cases where it loving sucks just use ext4. even xfs hasn't fixed their 2038 issues yet reminder that we are literally closer to 2038 than we are to the release of windows xp and windows xp is still very much around
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bold of you to assume human civilization will survive until 2038 etc
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modern xfs is extremely fast on nvme drives though. it's faster than ext4, never mind the much heavier btrfs, when it comes to typical desktop usage e: there are patches floating around for dealing with the 2038 problem (there are reserved inode bits that can be appropriated to allow for a 40 bit timestamp, which is enough for another 30k+ years). seems that they just need to settle on a solution. idk why they didn't address this the last time they bumped the inode version The_Franz fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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Sapozhnik posted:bold of you to assume human civilization will survive until 2038 etc will windows xp outlast human civilization?
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The only appropriate artifact of human civilization is a CRT with a bluescreen permanently etched on its screen.
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starbucks hermit posted:The only appropriate artifact of human civilization is a CRT with a bluescreen permanently etched on its screen. 
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where the gently caress is the any key
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nice, i can finally remove python 2 from my gentoo machines, might have been able to do this a little while ago but didnt try recently until now, there were packages like samba that still depended on 2.7
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Lysidas posted:my gentoo machines lol
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gentoo machines, plural because you somehow didn't learn your lesson the first time
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well it's not as if you could accomplish anything with only one gentoo machine, and besides once you get locked into a serious gentoo collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can
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infernal machines posted:besides once you get locked into a serious gentoo collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can 
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did btrfs fix its RAID-6 support that had big red warnings on all the wikis not to use it because of data loss bugs?
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Jimmy Carter posted:did btrfs fix its RAID-6 support that had big red warnings on all the wikis not to use it because of data loss bugs? they're claiming it's fixed now but they're always saying that until the next critical data loss bug is found. maybe they've finally found the last one but its anyones guess really.
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Intel's IWD Daemon Has Been Fleshing Out WiFi Display Support would be neat if miracast could work seamlessly in linux
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Maximum Leader posted:they're claiming it's fixed now but they're always saying that until the next critical data loss bug is found. maybe they've finally found the last one but its anyones guess really. there are patches floating around, but every wiki still has a big red block for raid56 with "write-hole" in it
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Microsoft plans for single-screen Windows 10X rollout in spring 2021; dual-screen in spring 2022 WDG: Hey guys! Everyone: Oh no, not again. WDG: Did you hear about Windows 10X? Everyone: Yeah, that's the OS for those dual-screen devices you're going to be shipping soon, right? WDG: Uh... no, not exactly. Those dual-screen devices are definitely real and we're totally going to ship those, just in twenty-twenty*mumble*. Everyone: Oh, that's a surprise. WDG: But Windows 10X devices are going to ship next spring! Everyone: If they're not dual-screen, then what are Windows 10X devices. WDG: Imagine a laptop that runs Windows, but is inexpensive and primarily targeted at internet browsing. Everyone: Netbooks? WDG: No, Cloud PCs! Everyone: Oh. WDG: It's going to be great! They'll run Chromium, all the best Windows apps, have super-fast startup, shutdown, update, and, of course, be super secure! Everyone: Ah, it sounds like you figured out how to make your containerized Win32 app strategy work well, then. WDG: Oh no, there will be no containerized Win32 apps. Everyone: So you did the infrastructure and perf work to make Win32 apps run without containers? WDG: Of course not! Win32 apps are entirely unimportant now that UWP is an unmitigated success, so Cloud PCs won't run Win32 apps at all! Everyone: Five years of development effort and you've created Chromebooks, except worse. We can always count on you to meet our expectations, WDG.
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someone once described microsoft's product strategy as "copy competitors, launch early, then iterate until you have a mostly working product 2 years after everyone stopped caring about it"
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windows 1010: Magna Encarta edition
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qirex posted:someone once described microsoft's product strategy as "copy competitors, launch early, then iterate until you have a mostly working product 2 years after everyone stopped caring about it" Here's WDG's strategy: 1) Leaders think up a very stupid and very expensive idea for a product 2) 80% of product is built 3) Roll dice to decide whether product is shipped half-baked or product release is postponed. 4) Leaders fired 5) New leaders realize that product idea is fundamentally stupid, and decide they need to abandon product and pivot. Go to 1.
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Sir, this is the Linux thread
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starbucks hermit posted:Sir, this is the Linux thread Correct.
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starbucks hermit posted:Sir, this is the Linux thread all threads are linux threads if you think about it
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It's fine, you can just run your win32 apps on Wine through WSL
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Fiedler posted:Microsoft plans for single-screen Windows 10X rollout in spring 2021; dual-screen in spring 2022 mystes fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Jul 20, 2020 |
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I'll consider paying for windows 10 again if they just release a new version that brings back Aero support, legacy themes and the start menu from windows 7 Maybe just revert everything from windows 8 and 10 that isn't a security fix
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r u ready to WALK posted:I'll consider paying for windows 10 again if they just release a new version that brings back Aero support, legacy themes and the start menu from windows 7 this but instead of making it look obnoxiously dated they just leave it the same and give me a million dollars
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i lost hte microsoft thread . anyway I've been using edge so I can have work and home profiles and it's great. thanks microsoft.
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my stepdads beer posted:i lost hte microsoft thread . anyway I've been using edge so I can have work and home profiles and it's great. thanks microsoft. mods???
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lol Linux support for ASUS ROG laptops is coming along nicely
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