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BlackMK4 posted:The Monolith isn't meant to be compared to an EK43, it is a low retention single dose grinder. C'mon. It's a top tier grinder that is used in (and has won) espresso competitions and the highest rated cafes in the world, and they even make single dose hoppers for it. It's absolutely a valid comparison. The Niche Zero has less business being on that list than the EK43 imo Is E65s excluded from the list because its hopper holds more than a single dose? sellouts fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jul 24, 2020 |
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sellouts posted:C'mon. It's a top tier grinder that is used in (and has won) espresso competitions and the highest rated cafes in the world, and they even make single dose hoppers for it. It's absolutely a valid comparison. Yes, that is why my list was specifically out of the box single dosers, as originally stated
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Jul 24, 2020 00:43
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BlackMK4 posted:Yes, that is why my list was specifically out of the box single dosers, as originally stated Also the retention on the E65S is allegedly pretty high from what I found when I was doing my research on which grinder to buy.
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Jul 24, 2020 01:50
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Frank Dillinger posted:Also the retention on the E65S is allegedly pretty high from what I found when I was doing my research on which grinder to buy. Yeah, thats what I'd read too. Hopefully more manufacturers start offering single dose low retention stuff, it seems ideal for home workflow. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jul 24, 2020 |
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Jul 24, 2020 03:45
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BlackMK4 posted:The Monolith isn't meant to be compared to an EK43, it is a low retention single dose grinder. There aren't many choices if that is what you want, especially for flat burr. Maybe there's something I'm not understanding here, but I single dose every day with a Eureka Mignon Silenzio and it is a relatively inexpensive flat burr grinder with low retention.
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Jul 24, 2020 05:29
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I made my first Aeropress coffee today! It was delicious and cleaning was really as simple as pushing the puck out. Very positive experience! I think I'm stirring wrong though. All recipes I saw require a degree of stirring. When I do, coffee/water begins to just run through the filter much more quickly. That must mean I'm disturbing the grounds too much, right? Should I just stir the upper water layer, or as deep down as the stirrer reaches?
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Jul 24, 2020 19:35
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Look up inverted aeropress.
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Jul 24, 2020 20:12
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Lord Stimperor posted:I made my first Aeropress coffee today! It was delicious and cleaning was really as simple as pushing the puck out. Very positive experience! Play around , everyone aeropress's differently I don't stir at all, just fast pour into an inverted one and rely on the press action to finish it off after 40 seconds
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Jul 24, 2020 20:19
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Any tips/thoughts on dealing with clumpy grinds coming from a Rancilio Rocky? I've read mixed things on whether or not people think it matters to break them up (my limited experience says it does), but how to deal with them? I've seen the one distribution technique involving a cut out yogurt cup, but that seems a bit silly with a grinder like this.
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Jul 24, 2020 20:31
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Lord Stimperor posted:I made my first Aeropress coffee today! It was delicious and cleaning was really as simple as pushing the puck out. Very positive experience! Congrats! I grind my coffee fine enough that minimal water flows through between the time I add it and the time I put the plunger in. Once the plunger is in it will stop dripping until you push. I don't bother with inverted as it adds a step which can and has ended in disaster when my tired brain screws up. What I end up doing 1. Fine grind of 17g beans 2. Heat water to 190 F. 3. Put coffee in normal direction aeropress. 4. Add 40 grams of water, start timer, stir 5. At 25 seconds, add water till you hit 270 grams. Put plunger in. 6. At some point, start plunging and try to finish around 1m40s. Adjust total time based off taste for future cups. The above works well for me. I've also experimented with methods that used a out double the coffee and those were pretty tasty as well. I ended up doing it this way by looking at what folks did at the aeropress competitions, trying some of them, and tweaking. I also favored not doing inverted as I've messed that up and didn't think it bought me anything.
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Jul 24, 2020 20:54
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For what it's worth My recipe 15 g of "slightly finer than french press" Into inverted aeropress 200ml of boiling water, poured quickly to fully saturate. Give it 40 seconds, put the cap and filter on in this time After the 40 seconds has passed place upright over your vessel and press lightly , aiming to empty in after another 40 seconds
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Jul 24, 2020 22:40
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Hello coffee thread, I have recently acquired a La Pavoni Stradivari (basically a Professional w/ fancier knobs) and a Sette 270W to start trying manual espresso at home. Things are slow going in terms of progress, but I have managed to get through a couple rounds of beans with more coming. I'm somewhat disappointed in the user design for the Sette 270W. The catch cup that comes with it has a tendency to vibrate all the way out of position when grinding, and since grinding by weight is what the thing does, this is a problem. I tried to shim it with a spare paper filter but it just threw off the grind by weight feature. Grinding into the 51mm portafilter with it is also something of a nightmare since it grinds off-center, expecting a larger basket. This causes, predictably, a massive mess every grind. Aside from that I'm getting a feel for what the espresso machine can take, and I'm looking for a way to start logging my shots in greater detail. Are there any apps or just ways to organize my shot log that I can track easily with an Acaia Pearl or a pen and paper? Since it's all been taste and feel at this point I haven't been super stringent about recording the shots beyond grinds by weight in pre-tamp, resulting extraction and time. If there is some kind of online course for learning more about making and critically tasting espressos, I'm also interested in increasing education about the process. I come mostly from a tea background but have been experimenting with pourovers for the past few years before finally landing on espresso at home to noodle around with while in lockdown.
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Jul 25, 2020 14:03
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Abner Assington posted:Any tips/thoughts on dealing with clumpy grinds coming from a Rancilio Rocky? I've read mixed things on whether or not people think it matters to break them up (my limited experience says it does), but how to deal with them? I've seen the one distribution technique involving a cut out yogurt cup, but that seems a bit silly with a grinder like this. There's a lot of debate about leveling tools, but since getting mine (a Lelit-branded tool), I've had zero channeling/spraying from my shots. If you don't want to get one, I'd at least stir the grinds with a toothpick or unfolded paper clip before tamping.
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Jul 25, 2020 17:38
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Jestery posted:For what it's worth Niyqor posted:Congrats! Jestery posted:Play around , everyone aeropress's differently Mu Zeta posted:Look up inverted aeropress. Thanks for all the advice. Personally, I kind of don't like the inverted method because I know it's gonna fall over. It didn't today, but I'm a klutz. I didn't notice any difference in taste between the inverted and standard method, and read on the website that a certain degree of coffee pre-cum should not affect the taste anyway, so I guess I'm fine with standard for now. Only thing that happened once is that the filter must have moved during one of today's shots, and so the water fell right through. That was dumb. I also did a cold brew today for my girlfriend who normally hates coffee. It's a really pleasant drink and she likes it. Kind of freakish how simple it was. I think the next item on my list will be a metal filter to see if I can get some more body in the coffee, and after that I'll start assembling a travel kit.
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Jul 25, 2020 22:33
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curried lamb of God posted:There's a lot of debate about leveling tools, but since getting mine (a Lelit-branded tool), I've had zero channeling/spraying from my shots. If you don't want to get one, I'd at least stir the grinds with a toothpick or unfolded paper clip before tamping.
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Jul 26, 2020 02:05
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I'm kind of surprised more people don't talk about roasting in here. I've been quite happy with my SR540 and extension tube and extended chaff collector. Anyone in here using something fancy like a bullet? (Jamie you don't count).
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Jul 26, 2020 20:41
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I am looking for a setup which would allow me to make two pour-overs at the same time - I've seen varieties of double stands. Any recommendations that aren't unreasonably expensive?
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Jul 26, 2020 22:56
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Munkaboo posted:I'm kind of surprised more people don't talk about roasting in here. I've been quite happy with my SR540 and extension tube and extended chaff collector. I have a gene cafe cbr-101. I don’t think it necessarily counts as fancy? It certainly has paid for itself now given the relative cost of fresh coffee as well as opening up the variety of coffee my wife and I can drink. I recently got some gesha and on the label it says don’t go full city roast. Well I accidentally got up there and wow is it night and day between full city and city. So what I’m trying to say is I probably want to upgrade so I can have a programmable roast profile but it’s ridiculous because I think that’s the only roast I’ve ever had where it made that large a difference.
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Jul 26, 2020 23:18
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fawning deference posted:I am looking for a setup which would allow me to make two pour-overs at the same time - I've seen varieties of double stands. Any recommendations that aren't unreasonably expensive? What's the purpose of the stand? Just get two mugs and two cones. I'm assuming this is for home use?
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milkman dad posted:I have a gene cafe cbr-101. I don’t think it necessarily counts as fancy? It certainly has paid for itself now given the relative cost of fresh coffee as well as opening up the variety of coffee my wife and I can drink. I'd say the Gene Cafe is prob the best 'low cost' option, no? Which geisha? I've been trying with much failure to get the Sweet Maria's Colombia Honey Las Aguilas Gesha to a City/City+ but I either overshoot (not bad but no floras) or undershoot (grassy, gross).
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Alright So, I've got recipe , obv you guys can't advise too much but hopefully I'm not doing anything right 16 gram dose in 44 grams out Done in 27 seconds from when the water hits the puck Does this sound like I'm getting somewhere?
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Mu Zeta posted:What's the purpose of the stand? Just get two mugs and two cones. I'm assuming this is for home use? I like nice things
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Starbucks used to sell a good looking stand but their website doesn't seem to sell any merch at all right now. Have you checked Etsy?
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I wouldn't worry too much about a bit of dripping through the filter. It's inevitable that some liquid will seem through during the process because of the design; concentrate more on the factors you can control. My process has been one I got from somewhere I forget - Wet the filter. Add 20g of coffee ground fine and about 1/3 of the water. Stir 15s, let brew 30s. Add the remaining water. Stir 15s, brew 90s with the plunger in place, then press. Not as complicated as an inverse press, longer extraction than the standard grind-water-stir-press method - I don't know, it works for me and isn't too complicated or fussy but makes coffee the way I like. Note that this does require a consistent grinder. My Bodum would give me more fines and you'd taste that as the coffee cooled. Not good.
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Anyone have recommendations for mail-order roasters in California, ideally central coast? I've never had truly fresh beans, am looking at this list of good roasters from the OP but it's about 6 years old.
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Jul 27, 2020 05:15
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Remy Marathe posted:Anyone have recommendations for mail-order roasters in California, ideally central coast? I've never had truly fresh beans, am looking at this list of good roasters from the OP but it's about 6 years old. Gas or electric? What size batches?
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Jul 27, 2020 13:26
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Munkaboo posted:I'd say the Gene Cafe is prob the best 'low cost' option, no? $500-600 is a little steep of an investment but if you drink enough and take it as a hobby I feel it pays for itself. For roasting the las Aguilas on there my trick was to actually cut it short towards the end of first crack and not wait until it was completely through. This was as it coasted down in temp I guess it landed somewhere around city/city+. The other thing is the roast really does develop with time. I would say make sure you give it a good 7 day rest before grinding. We principally drink americanos and that’s how I drank most of it. Yeah that’s the one!
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Recently I was in a situation in which the only coffee I could get was from a starbucks. So, biting the bullet, I ordered a Nitro Cold Brew (you can't gently caress up a cold brew with bad coffee - I win). It was amazingly good. I've since had the 'nitro' cold brew from other folks and am a fan. I make my own cold brew at home, and there is a noticeable difference between the nitro and my nitro free coffee. Cutting to the chase, I'm looking at a GrowlerWerks uKeg that both brews and adds the nitro. Does anyone here have any experience with this or something similar. Alternatively, I think I could go with just a nitro keg (Royal Brew) for less money and continue to use my own system to make the cold brew.
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Abner Assington posted:Yeah, it's a cost I'd rather not have, but my experience so far with stirring hasn't produced a total elimination of channeling. Although, my tamping wasn't the best in those cases. I have a rocky grinder and bought one of the levellers from aliexpress. It was something like £9. I was surprised at how much difference it made, used to stir the grounds with a cocktail stick then bang the portafilter to distribute grounds and still got channeling quite often. With the distributor i just spin it for a couple seconds and it never channels.
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Munkaboo posted:Gas or electric? What size batches? 1) I have no idea and 2) I have no idea if you mean the batch sizes they roast at a time, but I'd only be buying 3lb or so at a time. I've only just barely discovered the difference fresh grinding makes and started spotting differences between different sacks of beans from Costco.
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porktree posted:Recently I was in a situation in which the only coffee I could get was from a starbucks. So, biting the bullet, I ordered a Nitro Cold Brew (you can't gently caress up a cold brew with bad coffee - I win). It was amazingly good. I've since had the 'nitro' cold brew from other folks and am a fan. i haven't used that system but personally i'd do the latter if only to best control steepage
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milkman dad posted:. I would say make sure you give it a good 7 day rest before grinding. We principally drink americanos and that’s how I drank most of it. Yes! One day off-roast it just tasted like grass and funk. After about 3 to 4 days you could definitely tell it a change quite a bit and was now drinkable.
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Remy Marathe posted:1) I have no idea and 2) I have no idea if you mean the batch sizes they roast at a time, but I'd only be buying 3lb or so at a time. I've only just barely discovered the difference fresh grinding makes and started spotting differences between different sacks of beans from Costco. Does the roaster need to be from California? I'm in California and the good roasters here cost too much. I'm using Craft Coffee for delivery for a few months now and it's solid.
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Remy Marathe posted:Anyone have recommendations for mail-order roasters in California, ideally central coast? I've never had truly fresh beans, am looking at this list of good roasters from the OP but it's about 6 years old. Cat and Cloud is in Santa Cruz
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Time to wait after roasting will change based on bean and roast. I've never felt a need to wait 7 days. Usually 1 is pretty good, 2 or 3 tends to be a good option most of the time for me. If you need a coffee and only have fresh beans, grind and let them sit for half an hour, then do a pourover with a good presoak for a couple minutes. Usually makes totally drinkable cups.
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mediaphage posted:Time to wait after roasting will change based on bean and roast. I've never felt a need to wait 7 days. Usually 1 is pretty good, 2 or 3 tends to be a good option most of the time for me. Yeah not really sure why geshas benefit more from wait time but it's not the first time I've heard it.
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Jul 27, 2020 23:50
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I usually wait about 2 weeks for espresso beans, 7 days for filter.
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BlackMK4 posted:Cat and Cloud is in Santa Cruz Mu Zeta posted:Does the roaster need to be from California? I'm in California and the good roasters here cost too much. I'm using Craft Coffee for delivery for a few months now and it's solid.
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Jul 28, 2020 05:01
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Royal Mile out of New Jersey is good and goon owned. They're about $1/oz
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I've been getting mochas/lattes from coffeeshops several times a week for years, and am in the process of moving and it's definitely time to get my own machine. It's kinda hard to get a good grasp on what's actually 'needed', but from browsing around it seems the Breville 870 is kinda the best higherish end machine that won't disappoint me. Are there any other options I should be looking at? I'm completely open to having a separate grinder/etc., and could go a bit higher pricewise if there's something significantly better to consider.
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