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To jump back to WARHORSE chat for a moment, I do think he was done a little dirty by being the first opponent to not get any post-match shine. Even Kingston got a mournful slow walk out which gave at least some emotional closure to the segment. Dark Beaver Boys doing a run-in didn't make any sense because they've got fuckall to do with Cody or WARHORSE (though he did defend the IWTV belt against Silver once) but was entirely in service of debuting a different person at WARHORSE's expense. It's not the end of the world but it's a lovely thing to do.
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Jul 30, 2020 20:31
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Okay, this feels like a story starting to come together: https://twitter.com/DaxHarwood/status/1288899956091256832 https://twitter.com/TheArnShow/status/1288646505440608265
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Jul 30, 2020 20:50
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I think there's so many balls in the air with all the "horsemen" stuff that its impossible to know what the actual picture looks like. And I like that. I mean, Cody's playing with Zack Ryder and the Dark Order at the moment while the Elite and FTR go against the rest of Dark Order in a totally separate thing? So is Ryder part of the equation now? Or is this all distraction? Or is Cody the one guy NOT actually involved in this story? I like that there's like a million threads I can see but I have no idea which of them mean anything.
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Jul 30, 2020 20:56
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Is All Out too soon to have all of this come to a head?? Like it’s a month and change away, and I’d love for them to keep stretching all these storylines out for a while (especially with Inner Circle showing some cracks lately with the Sammy/Hardy stuff coming back, it could be the right time for a new BIG HEEL FACTION to rise up), but between Cody’s slow heel burn, the FTR/Hangman stuff, Kenny slipping into Cleaner mode, and now even MJF’s titleshot looming (which I honestly see him winning; they’ve got so much invested in him as a future star, they could give him an Okada-1st reign-type run), it does seem like All Out 2020 is being positioned as a “Powder Keg” moment.
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 AEW: 773k (6th, 0.3 demo) NXT: 707k (28th, 0.18 demo) Guess baseball didn't hurt too much afterall? blunt fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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Jul 30, 2020 21:03
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BodyMassageMachine posted:Is All Out too soon to have all of this come to a head?? Like it’s a month and change away, and I’d love for them to keep stretching all these storylines out for a while (especially with Inner Circle showing some cracks lately with the Sammy/Hardy stuff coming back, it could be the right time for a new BIG HEEL FACTION to rise up), but between Cody’s slow heel burn, the FTR/Hangman stuff, Kenny slipping into Cleaner mode, and now even MJF’s titleshot looming (which I honestly see him winning; they’ve got so much invested in him as a future star, they could give him an Okada-1st reign-type run), it does seem like All Out 2020 is being positioned as a “Powder Keg” moment. I agree. I think All Out is where a lot of things happen - if MJF doesn't win the title from Mox I'd expect to see him lose it to Kenny at Full Gear, though they could do a rematch there anyway where Kenny wins even if Mox isn't the champ at that point.
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Jul 30, 2020 21:05
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blunt posted:
NXT lost to a rerun of Guy's Grocery Games, but AEW has continued to defeat the biggest threat in the demo.
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Jul 30, 2020 21:08
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Dynamite did better than it deserved to tbh
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Jul 30, 2020 21:11
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My big takeaway from the ratings is that apparently 12 Oz Mouse is still a thing???
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Jul 30, 2020 21:12
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i'm kind of uneasy about how hard they seem to be leaning into campaign season angles, just because it seems kinda cringe-y, and wrestlers have to basically be as apolitical as possible, but i'll see where it goes, they've earned that much
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Jul 30, 2020 21:13
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BodyMassageMachine posted:Is All Out too soon to have all of this come to a head?? Like it’s a month and change away, and I’d love for them to keep stretching all these storylines out for a while (especially with Inner Circle showing some cracks lately with the Sammy/Hardy stuff coming back, it could be the right time for a new BIG HEEL FACTION to rise up), but between Cody’s slow heel burn, the FTR/Hangman stuff, Kenny slipping into Cleaner mode, and now even MJF’s titleshot looming (which I honestly see him winning; they’ve got so much invested in him as a future star, they could give him an Okada-1st reign-type run), it does seem like All Out 2020 is being positioned as a “Powder Keg” moment. All Out should definitely be a time for big new storyline beats, if only because this is the first PPV where it's clear that "holding off on all the good stuff until COVID-19 is over" is not really a viable operating model (That being said a part of me still thinks it's a waste to do MJF's first title reign in a crowdless era)
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Jul 30, 2020 21:14
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Either Leva's just throwing names out, or she may have just revealed that Veda Scott is coming to AEW: https://twitter.com/wrestlingleva/status/1288931526076506112 https://twitter.com/itsvedatime/status/1288932076260122624
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Jul 30, 2020 21:18
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moxley is going to defeat darby and then defeat mjf
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Jul 30, 2020 21:23
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Benne posted:My big takeaway from the ratings is that apparently 12 Oz Mouse is still a thing??? Apparently it got revived? And apparently Aqua Teen might be coming back too? Everything's getting revived except Metalocalypse and Moral Orel! You love to see it! You don't.
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Jul 30, 2020 21:24
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JOHN CENA posted:moxley is going to defeat darby and then defeat mjf Good
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Jul 30, 2020 21:24
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smarxist posted:i'm kind of uneasy about how hard they seem to be leaning into campaign season angles, just because it seems kinda cringe-y, and wrestlers have to basically be as apolitical as possible, but i'll see where it goes, they've earned that much The MJF thing works I think. His promo was fantastic and he came off as obnoxious as gently caress. The Jericho/OC debate remains to be seen. xbilkis posted:All Out should definitely be a time for big new storyline beats, if only because this is the first PPV where it's clear that "holding off on all the good stuff until COVID-19 is over" is not really a viable operating model I think they've held off on MJF as long as they can. There's literally no telling when tangible crowds will return to this hellscape of a country so unless they want to try and run their entire production in like New Zealand, they're probably going to have to push forward. The big stories appear to be building now so they'll have five weeks of TV to build to. They've yet to put on a 'bad' PPV and while this past week's show was underwhelming it was still a solid but unspectacular show. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they'll book a great show.
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Jul 30, 2020 21:25
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Even though they’re taking two weeks off between tapings, I gotta imagine wrestling outside during the summer in Florida is an impact.
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Jul 30, 2020 21:34
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Akileese posted:I think they've held off on MJF as long as they can. There's literally no telling when tangible crowds will return to this hellscape of a country so unless they want to try and run their entire production in like New Zealand, they're probably going to have to push forward. The big stories appear to be building now so they'll have five weeks of TV to build to. They've yet to put on a 'bad' PPV and while this past week's show was underwhelming it was still a solid but unspectacular show. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they'll book a great show. Oh I don't have a problem with him getting a title shot, I just think you can have a 24 year old lose the first time around and not make it feel like you're artificially delaying things. (Especially if, say, Heel Kenny Omega is the next title challenger for Moxley)
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Jul 30, 2020 21:50
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blunt posted:
Baseball is cratering in ratings from that hot start at a speed that would make the WWE blush.
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Jul 30, 2020 22:01
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I don't think MJF is winning the belt cause Mox/MJF was clearly the original plan for Double or Nothing and he definitely wouldn't have won it then
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Jul 30, 2020 22:07
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rantmo posted:To jump back to WARHORSE chat for a moment, I do think he was done a little dirty by being the first opponent to not get any post-match shine. Even Kingston got a mournful slow walk out which gave at least some emotional closure to the segment. Dark Beaver Boys doing a run-in didn't make any sense because they've got fuckall to do with Cody or WARHORSE (though he did defend the IWTV belt against Silver once) but was entirely in service of debuting a different person at WARHORSE's expense. It's not the end of the world but it's a lovely thing to do. agreed; WARHORSE didn't get a promo, his headbanging spot, and he was absolutely dicked over with the Zack Ryder run-in. I can't bring myself to give a poo poo about Cardona (Cordona? whatever.) since there is nothing, nothing unique about him other than "nerd who likes action figures". His look is generic, his moveset is generic, and bringing him in rather than any other incredible indie wrestler reeks of "yeah Cody is just gonna sign all his buddies". People joke about how the Bucks are "create a wrestler" guys with the goofy gear and flippy poo poo, and Cardona is a CAW that shows up as the bland stock character before any mods are made. also? gently caress Darby Allin. when even Moxley looks at the aftermath of a tacks spot, it's gone way too far.
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Jul 30, 2020 22:11
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no its his tag team partner that runs create-a-wrestler
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Jul 30, 2020 22:12
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Rarity posted:I don't think MJF is winning the belt cause Mox/MJF was clearly the original plan for Double or Nothing and he definitely wouldn't have won it then He's actually not going to win because he never defeated Dolph Ziggler, OP. All AEW Champions have defeated Dolph Ziggler.
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Jul 30, 2020 22:14
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to win big plat you must cross the Zigglercon
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Jul 30, 2020 22:17
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I could have gone with John Cena, or HHH, or any number of other people. The fact remains, Dolph Ziggler is the key. Just like Stephen Amell is the key to the TNT title.
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Jul 30, 2020 22:21
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I'm sure everyone in the match agreed to the tack spot and it being the finish, theres no reason to put it on Darby. You can still hate Darby for being a piece of poo poo dude though that's totally cool
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Jul 30, 2020 22:24
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strong numbers from Forged in Fire, it will KEAL NXT.
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Jul 30, 2020 22:25
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I wouldn't be surprised if Ricky 'set my legs on fire for a YouTube video' Starks suggested it as a receipt for the concussion.
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Jul 30, 2020 22:27
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blunt posted:I wouldn't be surprised if Ricky 'set my legs on fire for a YouTube video' Starks suggested it as a receipt for the concussion. I could absolutely see it being "My bad, scrape a bunch of tacks across my back if you want" I don't think there's legit heat between the two of them and I certainly hope there isn't.
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Jul 30, 2020 22:28
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I hope Starks and Cage throw Darby off a cliff
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Jul 30, 2020 22:32
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It's like even reasonable to think that Starks knew he was going to lose and wanted to he part of a big memorable spot in his first Dynamite Main Event and it had nothing to do with receipts or dudes wanting to hurt each other
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Jul 30, 2020 22:33
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I assume Darby didn't go into business for himself or take advantage of Starks or lie or anything or it would be a bigger issue internally. Its still just not something I want to see. That's the thing with Darby. I was growing tired of his style before I found out he was a possibly abusive shitlord or sex pest. I just don't actually want to feel like wrestlers are getting hurt or could seriously get hurt. Darby usually being the victim of it himself but this time it being his opponent. And unfortunately those personal concerns about the guy and his regard of others kind of parallels and makes it worse for me.
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Jul 30, 2020 22:34
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The spot was good as hell and the first cool thing Darby has done in months Also Ricky Starks is a grown-rear end veteran who definitely agreed to the spot, y'all are acting like Darby's shooting on a young boy or something
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Jul 30, 2020 22:36
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Benne posted:The spot was good as hell and the first cool thing Darby has done in months That's right
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Jul 30, 2020 22:37
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Wezlar posted:It's like even reasonable to think that Starks knew he was going to lose and wanted to he part of a big memorable spot in his first Dynamite Main Event and it had nothing to do with receipts or dudes wanting to hurt each other I'm not super comfortable with that degree of hurt but tacks probably don't do lasting damage compared to other far less horrific spots. It looks gory but wrestlers suffer worse pain constantly.
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Jul 30, 2020 22:40
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Benne posted:The spot was good as hell and the first cool thing Darby has done in months
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Jul 30, 2020 22:42
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I mean I know this aint ballet and so forth but man. Thats a what like 170 pound goth just jumping tacks first onto your spine. There's not a lot of ways of mitigating what that is and what it is is OUCHIES
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Jul 30, 2020 22:42
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It's way less dangerous than the unprotected chairshots which AEW has done a bunch of times now
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Jul 30, 2020 22:43
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Rarity posted:It's way less dangerous than the unprotected chairshots which AEW has done a bunch of times now Or the concussion that Darby got last week.
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Benne posted:My big takeaway from the ratings is that apparently 12 Oz Mouse is still a thing??? Eye am surprised as well...EYE liked that show
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