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Well it WAS the 90s, the internet wasn't as much of a thing yet and Springfield's educational system is pretty obviously terrible, wouldn't be surprised if anyone could find out Jebediah's history if they did the research later on, but at that point it's genuinely an obscure thing. Obviously it'd probably go a different route today. Also, Carter really was history's greatest monster.
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[quote="Ghost Leviathan" Also, Carter really was history's greatest monster. [/quote] Peanut allergies weren’t even a thing until he became President.
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Sir Lemming posted:Speaking of The Simpsons, I guess the episode where Lisa discovers that Jebediah Springfield was a murderous pirate but decides he should still be honored with a statue in the town square didn't age too great. Although I guess some would say his attempted murderer of George Washington is a mark in his favor. The part where she almost gets killed by a police sniper under the mayor's watch aged ok.
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londonarbuckle posted:The part where she almost gets killed by a police sniper under the mayor's watch aged ok. Especially because they took the shot AFTER she was clearly no longer a "threat"
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I'm listening to Donovan's Barabajagal for the first time. Two tracks in and it sounds pretty nice. Unfortunately, I just caught a bit of the lyrics to Superlungs (My Supergirl) quote:You find the kind of girl in every town Dammit, Donovan.
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I think that's about smoking weed man
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Who’s weed man and why did he need to get smoked?
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RC and Moon Pie posted:I'm listening to Donovan's Barabajagal for the first time. Two tracks in and it sounds pretty nice. Yeah wtf was up with the '70s and the casual pederasty?
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christmas boots posted:Who’s weed man and why did he need to get smoked? Isn't he a character from that lovely GalatianMan "comic"?
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Sucrose posted:Yeah wtf was up with the '70s and the casual pederasty? https://youtu.be/T9awpv5BnSc
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Sucrose posted:Yeah wtf was up with the '70s and the casual pederasty? Ain't nothing casual about it. These were professional pedophiles.
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Sucrose posted:Yeah wtf was up with the '70s and the casual pederasty? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange Look under the "government funding" section.
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In the 70s you were only legally allowed to write a song about one of the following topics: 1. Dancing 2. CB Radio/Trucking 3. Pederasty
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To be fair the Alabama song is nearly 100 years old. I guess you can say it takes a more sinister tone given the fat drunk Jim Morrison was.
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Sucrose posted:Yeah wtf was up with the '70s and the casual pederasty? So you like a musical artist from the 70’s? Do not look up their opinions on loving children. It’s difficult to enjoy anything by an 70’s artist who didn’t die young in an airplane. So you’re pretty much limited to Jim Croce and I literally just looked it up and even he had a song about loving underaged women. WTF?
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I'm watching Freaked for the first time, and while I was expecting to be horribly offended by Mr. T's flashback where he becomes a "bearded lady", it's outright stated that she's much happier now and knows she made the right choice. It aged weirdly well in a movie full of stuff that otherwise didn't. 
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Krispy Wafer posted:So you like a musical artist from the 70’s? Do not look up their opinions on loving children. Which one was it? 
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https://youtube.com/watch/shGVuDt_B74 Technically 80s, but still. [Verse 1] Teenage baby, you're a sweet young thing Still tied to Mama's apron strings I don't even dare to ask your age It's enough to know you're here backstage [Chorus] You're jailbait, and I just can't wait Jailbait baby come on [Verse 2] One taste baby, all I need My decision made at lightning speed I don't even want to know your name It's enough to know you feel the same [Chorus] Jailbait, I just can't wait Jailbait baby get down
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An unfortunate consequence of the 60s being extremely misogynistic was that there wasn’t really any understanding of the difference between sex as an expression of personal autonomy and insanely unhealthy grooming and coercion where a gross libertine was just raping kids because they could get away with it. That whole generation just assumed that any criticism of sex was a holdover from establishment prudery and that a kid loving Donovan could only mean that the kid was empowered and leaving behind hypocritical morality for empowered self-determination. You can see weird vestiges of this attitude in some of the old cults from the era that are still around like the Raelians (I think it’s them—it’s a ufo cult, anyway) that have zero understanding of bodily autonomy and think that anyone who doesn’t want to go to the post-meeting orgy is just a repressed square.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:An unfortunate consequence of the 60s being extremely misogynistic was that there wasn’t really any understanding of the difference between sex as an expression of personal autonomy and insanely unhealthy grooming and coercion where a gross libertine was just raping kids because they could get away with it. That whole generation just assumed that any criticism of sex was a holdover from establishment prudery and that a kid loving Donovan could only mean that the kid was empowered and leaving behind hypocritical morality for empowered self-determination. You can see weird vestiges of this attitude in some of the old cults from the era that are still around like the Raelians (I think it’s them—it’s a ufo cult, anyway) that have zero understanding of bodily autonomy and think that anyone who doesn’t want to go to the post-meeting orgy is just a repressed square. See: French intellectuals. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/world/europe/gabriel-matzneff-pedophilia-france.amp.html This is a highly recommended read. Long story short, a famed writer blatantly wrote about having sex with kids as young as eleven without being challenged. He wrote about the joy of having sex with multiple kids at the same time. Some highlights: Fled to hotels to live with his 14-year-old "lover" (paid for in part by Yves Saint-Laurent). When detectives showed up, he showed them a letter from the president praising his work and they dismissed the reports as coming from a jealous rival. In 1990, a French literary program had a discussion of his latest memoir, which included Matzneff writing about having sex with 11 and 12 year-old boys in the Philippines, calling them a "rare spice". The only person who denounced him on the show was also the only person not from France, she was a Quebecois journalist who got attacked for her prudishness by an editor from Le Monde. When the writer of this article interviewed this editor asking about her defence of Matzneff at the time, her response was "I saw him as a man who liked young women. In France, he was never seen with boys". The same people who ignored or defended his vileness are still influential figures in the French literary world today. He won a major literary award as recently as 2013 when his close friend (who was entrusted with incriminating letters and photos of children when Matzneff feared a police raid) influenced the 9 men and 1 woman on the jury to select him. Matzneff isn't even in legal trouble, but he's whining about how he was cancelled this year because the aforementioned 14-year old, Vanessa Springora, recently wrote a book about her abuse at his hands. It's an infuriating article. Kevin DuBrow has a new favorite as of 03:34 on Aug 5, 2020 |
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Kevin DuBrow posted:See: French intellectuals. quote:From his hiding place on the Italian Riviera, Mr. Matzneff rejected the accusations of wrongdoing. Kind of on the nose to just outright say "Well, yeah I gently caress kids, who doesn't? What gives the other pedophiles any right to hold me accountable?"
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Which one was it? Something called “5 short minutes”” where he gets 20 years in jail for 5 minutes of loving. So it’s not glamorizing child rape but still... I really don’t want to plug in “queen underaged sex” in a search engine because I know I’m probably not going to like what I find.
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And to get in on the fun, Germany's prestigiousOdenwald school was basically a mass hotbed of pedophilia and sexual assault from the 70s on, potentially earlier but the evidence is scant. The left in Europe was all in on pedophilia as being normal in the 70s, and even outside those avant garde circles the world was just really ok with it in general, which still has scars to this day seeing as there was a case in France a couple of years back where the defense was "your honor, she wasn't 12, she was almost 13!"
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Don Gato posted:And to get in on the fun, Germany's prestigiousOdenwald school was basically a mass hotbed of pedophilia and sexual assault from the 70s on, potentially earlier but the evidence is scant. The left in Europe was all in on pedophilia as being normal in the 70s, and even outside those avant garde circles the world was just really ok with it in general, which still has scars to this day seeing as there was a case in France a couple of years back where the defense was "your honor, she wasn't 12, she was almost 13!" There may be more then one case but I think the one you're thinking of was "Yes, she's 12, but look at what she said and was wearing, this was no pure white dove of a girl we need to remember that regarding these 30 yr old men" Actually it was worse https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/14/french-girl-11-not-a-child-say-lawyers-for-man-29-accused-of-sexual-abuse French girl, 11, 'not a child' say lawyers for man, 29, accused of sexual abuse quote:Defence lawyers say the man and the girl had met in a park and the girl had voluntarily followed him to an apartment and consented to intercourse. They have also said their client, then 28, thought she was at least 16. pentyne has a new favorite as of 05:37 on Aug 5, 2020 |
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France is something special there. IIRC their current prime minister married his high school teacher.
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pentyne posted:There may be more then one case but I think the one you're thinking of was "Yes, she's 12, but look at what she said and was wearing, this was no pure white dove of a girl we need to remember that regarding these 30 yr old men" Somehow that was even worse than what I rembered.
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I'm a poor little faultless goose
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Kevin DuBrow posted:See: French intellectuals. Let's also not forget this infamous petition: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws quote:A number of French leftist intellectuals - including such prominent names as Louis Aragon, Michel Foucault, Jean-Paul Sartre, Jacques Derrida, Louis Althusser, Roland Barthes, Simone de Beauvoir, Gilles Deleuze, Félix Guattari, Michel Leiris, Alain Robbe-Grillet, Philippe Sollers, Jacques Rancière, Jean-François Lyotard, Francis Ponge, and various prominent doctors and psychologists - signed the petition.
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Oh no biggie the nearly 30 year old thought she was at least a sophomore. In high school.
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Kevin DuBrow posted:https://youtube.com/watch/shGVuDt_B74 Into the Night Benny Mardones She's just sixteen years old Leave her alone, they say Separated by fools Who don't know what love is yet But I want you to know If I could fly I'd pick you up I'd take you into the night And show you a love Like you've never seen, ever seen This was a Top 20 hit. Twice. There's a video.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:France is something special there. President, so more powerful than the pm in the french system.
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Mister Kingdom posted:This was a Top 20 hit. Twice. Man the comment section on youtube for this video contains a lot of gold. Two categories: middle aged people who are absolutely invested in some ludicrous waffle about why the lyrics ‘sound wrong to modern ears’, usually referencing an interview Benny gave featuring an explanation slightly less convincing than ‘a dog ate my homework; and internet people mining every last ounce of mockery out of it.
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Bands are still doing this kind of thing. Rilo Kiley had a song called 15 released in 2009 that is, well...the first stanza really sets the mood. "Twenty-five, a season off dope Three sheets to the wind like a clothesline rope He's a spider on the web She was a tiny woman, heap of sins Her developing body was just the beginning" The song has always given me the creeps, but a quick cursory glance indicates the song has a fair number of fans and it's not Boomers listening to Rilo Kiley songs. And the faultless goose case was TWO YEARS AGO? I'm thinking this is something from the 80's or earlier. WTF France.
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Iggy Pop - Look Awayquote:I slept with Sable when she was 13 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sable_Starr
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Krispy Wafer posted:Bands are still doing this kind of thing. Rilo Kiley had a song called 15 released in 2009 that is, well...the first stanza really sets the mood. The lyrics seem to be about a predator using the internet to pray on a naive child, but I guess I’ve never heard it performed. I don’t want to believe that the adorable kid from The Wizard and the second Ronny Pinsky could write a pro-molester song.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:The lyrics seem to be about a predator using the internet to pray on a naive child, but I guess I’ve never heard it performed. I don’t want to believe that the adorable kid from The Wizard and the second Ronny Pinsky could write a pro-molester song. "Spider on the web" could mean internet I suppose. I always took it more literally that he's just drunk and wandering around until he finds this girl one night. Internet makes more sense. What wigs me out is it goes back and forth. They call her a tiny woman, so she's a child. But then heaps of sin and she's coming on to him. Then it's back to "barely developing body" and we're in creepy child territory again. It's entirely possible the song is being told from the perspective of a predator who is projecting these intentions onto a child, but nuance can be difficult to convey in a song and it's just YIKES all around here. It's not a bad song and the lyrics are well written. Just call it 18 and we're golden.
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A middle aged man wanting and sleeping with an underage girl was like the 4th song ever written so there’s a long history of it. 75% of all 50s oldies is that song
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Krispy Wafer posted:Bands are still doing this kind of thing. Rilo Kiley had a song called 15 released in 2009 that is, well...the first stanza really sets the mood. Liz Phair had a song on her debut album Exile in Guyville about continually getting hosed and dumped since she was 12. Exile in Guyville routinely enters into "top 100 albums of the 90s" lists, has sold more than half a million copies and enjoyed two anniversary re-releases, most recently in 2018.
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Are we supposed to consider writing about your own mistreatment at the hands of men to be on the same level as writing about wanting to gently caress a 14 year old?
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