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Vegeta's arc is pretty simple: 1. I'm going to enjoy putting this low class trash in his place 2. What do you mean he can keep up with me 3. Go to 1 Repeat until end of Buu Saga. It isn't really until Vegeta dies that he manages to get over himself, even a little, and start treating Goku as a rival instead of an obstacle. Also, the reason Vegeta focuses so much more on Goku is also simple: Goku is a Saiyan. Not a half-breed like Gohan, whose attributes and attitude can be blamed on his half-Earthling genes. Goku was low class, Vegeta was an arrogant royal, Goku had the gall to near his level.
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I still say that Abridged had it right in that Vegeta's hateboner for Goku is the only thing that gets him up in the morning. Especially considering he's got pretty much absolutely nothing going on in his life after Frieza's gone. I figure he wasn't too bothered by Yajirobe mostly because out of sight, out of mind, and it became clear at that point the Oozaru form was a crutch anyway.
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Aug 4, 2020 12:32
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I was just rewatching Jiren vs Goku again and I really appreicate how loose Goku fights in UI. His arms kinda hang there when not in use and when he's dodging they just kinda flop. It's a little detail but I think it brings together how Goku is fighting on instinct and the body is almost on autopilot.
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Aug 4, 2020 12:34
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I still say that Abridged had it right in that Vegeta's hateboner for Goku is the only thing that gets him up in the morning. Phrasing!
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Aug 4, 2020 13:25
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It's genuinely surprising just how ugly Heroes is and how it only seems to get worse with time but hey, new opening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxSQWxJ0D2o
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Aug 5, 2020 14:01
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is that Vegeta SSj4-God using the loving Ryuken?
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Aug 5, 2020 14:12
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Black August posted:is that Vegeta SSj4-God using the loving Ryuken? Yes. Why? Because gently caress you, that's why. That's basically on par with Vegeta using Kamehameha. Worse, even, because Dragon Fist is literally only a Goku move. He'd never forgive himself.
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Aug 5, 2020 14:15
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that is so weird, it was already kind of titillating to see Vegeta technically 'use' the Kamehameha when fused as Vegito/Gogeta, but outright using Goku's ONLY unique move ever in a combo attack with him...
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Aug 5, 2020 14:17
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Black August posted:is that Vegeta SSj4-God using the loving Ryuken? Yes, though it should be noted that he doesn't have that attack in-game. Double Dragon Fist is a new Card Action Ability (a special effect triggered in X round of a battle, given to several cards, separate from their actual special attacks) which, as shown by the trailer, is used by SSFP4LB Goku and Vegeta, between others (SS3 Vegeta and SS3 Future Trunks come to mind, but there's a few more).
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Aug 5, 2020 14:21
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Blaze Dragon posted:Yes, though it should be noted that he doesn't have that attack in-game. Double Dragon Fist is a new Card Action Ability (a special effect triggered in X round of a battle, given to several cards, separate from their actual special attacks) which, as shown by the trailer, is used by SSFP4LB Goku and Vegeta, between others (SS3 Vegeta and SS3 Future Trunks come to mind, but there's a few more). 
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Aug 5, 2020 14:24
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In my opinion, the Dragon Fist is good and all living creatures should perform it so I applaud the new "Share the Wealth" initiative
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Aug 5, 2020 14:27
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I mean, Goku "borrows" moves from everyone else, so it's only fair that everyone else starts borrowing from Goku
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Aug 5, 2020 14:35
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No one in Dragon Ball has ever cared about copyright theft and I dont know why fans keep getting bent out of shape about it
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Aug 5, 2020 14:38
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In the first xenoverse game (haven't played the second) it was both by far the best physical special move and the only one your created character couldn't learn. Not because Goku own the copyright, but because of the animation it used. This bothered me more than it should have because my character was a human who did infinite punching combos.
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Aug 5, 2020 14:44
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Shinji2015 posted:I mean, Goku "borrows" moves from everyone else, so it's only fair that everyone else starts borrowing from Goku That's fine for literally anyone else, but Vegeta has made it a point to say he doesn't want to use any of Goku's moves. It's just out of character, but whatevs. It's an anime meant to sell...cards? Or something?
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Aug 5, 2020 14:45
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Is the actual Heroes game any better than the anime?
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Aug 5, 2020 14:47
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multijoe posted:No one in Dragon Ball has ever cared about copyright theft and I dont know why fans keep getting bent out of shape about it Vegeta hates using Goku's stuff, he had a whole complaint issue about being forced to use IT a few months ago.
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Aug 5, 2020 14:56
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Darko posted:Vegeta hates using Goku's stuff, he had a whole complaint issue about being forced to use IT a few months ago. Fair, but that's Vegeta thinking he's too good for Goku's moves, not 'ORIGINAL MOVE DO NOT STEAL' In any case I'd agree its bad and ignoring characterisation for tacky marketing (though what else is Heroes?)
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Aug 5, 2020 15:06
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I mean it's fun because Heroes is just a mech-seller game, let them go insane with the most braindead What Ifs because lol Vegeta using goddamn Ryuken WITH Goku while in Super Saiyan Gogeta-4 mode
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Aug 5, 2020 15:07
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The Switch version of DB Heroes is pretty fun, if completely stupid. It is just an electronic card game though, there's less gameplay than like, Dokkan Battle. But you can make three separate Jirens all join Cooler's Armored Squadron then spontaneously transform into Master Roshi so its good
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Aug 5, 2020 15:15
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:In the first xenoverse game (haven't played the second) it was both by far the best physical special move and the only one your created character couldn't learn. Not because Goku own the copyright, but because of the animation it used. This bothered me more than it should have because my character was a human who did infinite punching combos. You can get it in the second, in fact I made a melee Saiyan entirely for it...and then never used it because it kind of sucked, heavy Ki requirement for a very easy to miss strike. Very flashy though. Nanigans posted:That's fine for literally anyone else, but Vegeta has made it a point to say he doesn't want to use any of Goku's moves. It's just out of character, but whatevs. It's an anime meant to sell...cards? Or something? Nnnnot quite. The game existed since much before, the opening there is for the game, not the anime. The anime merely adapts the game's main storyline to sell cards, it's specifically a promotional anime, but this is unconnected from it...right now, since it'll be adapted next episode. Larryb posted:Is the actual Heroes game any better than the anime? Sort of? The Switch game is pretty good in its original story mode, but you also have every story mode from a certain point of the game in so it has a crapton of content...which is hard as balls and honestly not recommended. I had no fun with it, especially since part of the fun of the original story mode was letting you make your own cards, which the main game doesn't allow. But it's kept Dragon Ball alive for years until Super happened, so clearly Japan loves it. Also we got another thing from Heroes, the Saiyan avatar can now use Ultra Instinct -Sign-...and they hosed up giving him the silver eyes. Great job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArCOkU0eY-M
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Aug 5, 2020 15:18
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Vegeta shouldn’t use Goku trchniques because DB attacks already can be a bit samey as is
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Aug 5, 2020 15:21
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Also Mira has a new design and Super 17 has a new form, officially giving him more forms than he had episodes in GT. And the next update will bring in a new Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Break, likely Vegetto Xeno.
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Aug 5, 2020 15:31
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I see Mira has achieved Super Saiyan Clubbin' Casual.
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Aug 5, 2020 15:32
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One of my favorite things about Heroes is the switch game has several creator modes where you can, for example, make a card that is just 20 stamps of Vegeta's face but summons as Perfect Cell or do a custom mission that has you face 1 saibaman at minimum health but drops rewards like you cleared a max difficulty story mission
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Aug 5, 2020 15:33
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I love that stupid mask because it never fools anyone because faces don’t matter on a Toryiama character
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Aug 5, 2020 15:36
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Black August posted:I see Mira has achieved Super Saiyan Clubbin' Casual. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EKTw50Uf8M
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Aug 5, 2020 15:41
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Black August posted:I see Mira has achieved Super Saiyan Clubbin' Casual. I thought it was Bojack at first cause I forgot what he looked like and thought “FINALLY, he’s interesting”
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Aug 5, 2020 17:37
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Aside from the words they scream out, is there really anything functionally different between a kamehameha and any of Vegeta's own charged beams?
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Aug 5, 2020 17:44
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iamsosmrt posted:Aside from the words they scream out, is there really anything functionally different between a kamehameha and any of Vegeta's own charged beams? When was the last time you saw a feet galick gun, or a remotely aimed galick gun, or a tony hawk's pro skater galick gun?
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Aug 5, 2020 17:54
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the galick gun is purple (except for when it isn't)
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Aug 5, 2020 17:56
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I feel like my headcanon is that Vegeta invented a charged attack that can hit above his power level and felt pretty smart about it because no one else in the galaxy seems to know how to do that except he got to Earth and like everyone there to stop him has figured out that ki manipulation secret and much more
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Aug 5, 2020 18:01
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Vegeta's big attacks always seemed to across as trying to compress the Ki for lack of better term.
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Aug 5, 2020 18:07
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if vegeta was smart he'd just steal tiens techniques so kamehameha is hard countered.
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Aug 5, 2020 18:23
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iamsosmrt posted:Aside from the words they scream out, is there really anything functionally different between a kamehameha and any of Vegeta's own charged beams? Nothing between Kamehameha and Galick Gun, Vegeta outright points out they're the same move in the beam clash between those two with Goku. Final Flash is just stronger but also has a much longer charge time.
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Aug 5, 2020 18:27
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Needs to happen: someone with Tien's multi-arm technique all doing kamehamehas
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Aug 5, 2020 18:31
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Black August posted:Needs to happen: someone with Tien's multi-arm technique all doing kamehamehas You're thinking too small Multi Arm technique SPECIAL BEAM CANNON
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Aug 5, 2020 18:47
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Someone should use the Multi-Arm technique, then in a very DBZ move use the Multi-Arm technique 2, turning all their fingers into new arms with their own hands and fingers, then fire batteries of Death Beams from their 100 fingers E: Mirai Trunks learning the Multi-Arm technique for the explicit and specific purpose of doing new and more complex hand seals for the Super Burning Attack
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Aug 5, 2020 19:04
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Burkion posted:You're thinking too small My final boss alarm is going haywire
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double dragon fist is cool also vegeta already hates fusing so it's not like he loves final kamehameha or w/e
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