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PsychoInternetHawk
Apr 4, 2011

Perhaps, if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque.
Grimey Drawer

Wrex Ruckus posted:

I thought HZD was alright, not worth buying a ps4 just to play, but what I enjoyed the most about it was the backstory because you find out

Musk/Bezos/tech giant billionaire hosed up and destroyed civilization


Ted Faro is low key one of the best video game "villains" in the last decade, the "man gently caress THIS GUY" reaction he inevitably provokes in people is a delight

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


i woulda liked if aloy was allowed to crush bussy like geralt though, it bugged me that they have a woman protag but shes essentially got the sensibilities of a child because her dad sheltered her.
shes a young adult out on her own for the first time meeting new people, one of whom is a hot shirtless king

Ben Nerevarine
Apr 14, 2006
HZD had pretty great facial animations for its time, it was the first game I remember thinking to myself that it almost got out of the uncanny valley. It hasn't aged all that well though. It can't stand up next to full mo-capped stuff like Death Stranding

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




introducing aloy without any romance stuff was one of their goals i think

^^^
hzd has clear facial tiers where npcs that you meat once look pretty bad but the main cast is good yeah

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

i thought my favorite part of ac: odyssey was going to be the naval battles, it actually turned out to be slutting my way across ancient greece as kassandra.

Wrex Ruckus
Aug 24, 2015

PsychoInternetHawk posted:

Ted Faro is low key one of the best video game "villains" in the last decade, the "man gently caress THIS GUY" reaction he inevitably provokes in people is a delight

I also liked that after learning about how badly he hosed up, and initially helping with the Zero Dawn project, he goes "no this wasn't my fault, it's HUMANITY's fault" and murders everyone involved with the project so that civilization stays buried

PsychoInternetHawk
Apr 4, 2011

Perhaps, if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque.
Grimey Drawer
One thing I appreciate about HZDs writing is that it gives zero fucks about "both sides"-ing during any of the backstory, even when the US is involved

iirc, once it becames clear that Faro's robots remove the chance of US casualties and limit eyewitness accounts, the US immediately starts invading third-world countries, converts anyone who resists into robot-feeding organic slurry, and enslaves the survivors into what are basically state-supported corporate fiefdoms

It didn't pull any punches, and I was pleasantly surprised/horrified

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008
The backstory was probably the best part of the game's writing, even if I'm still not a fan of Sobeck basically being this near-perfect Christ figure to the point that GAIA's solution to poo poo is just "well if I just clone Sobeck she'll be amazing and solve everything."

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
ok so that games thread is full of creeps

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


A Bakers Cousin posted:

ok so [...] games [...] is full of creeps

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Joyous.
Using Steam discussion as an outlet for your insecurities seems weird.

*looks at his list of uninstalled / unbeaten games*

punished milkman
Dec 5, 2018

would have won
checked in on the drdisrespect thing and looks like he didn’t rape or murder anyone, more like there was some sort of contract dispute nonsense and now he’s moved to youtube to stream

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


well that's boring, why so mum if it was that mundane?

Terminal autist
May 17, 2018

by vyelkin
Didnt the feds or something raid him?

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Some fresh industry labor happenings https://twitter.com/calibrono/status/1291474562752950273

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Terminal autist posted:

Didnt the feds or something raid him?

I thought that was Paul Logan

Wrex Ruckus
Aug 24, 2015

punished milkman posted:

checked in on the drdisrespect thing and looks like he didn’t rape or murder anyone, more like there was some sort of contract dispute nonsense and now he’s moved to youtube to stream

[boring contract stuff]

Doctor: oh god oh jesus... we'll get through this, we'll... *cuts stream*

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Wrex Ruckus posted:

[boring contract stuff]

Doctor: oh god oh jesus... we'll get through this, we'll... *cuts stream*

I honestly wouldn't put it past him to deliberately generate controversy like that to ensure a huge crowd on his return

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

https://twitter.com/envinyon/status/1291480120620912640

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Zerilan posted:

The backstory was probably the best part of the game's writing, even if I'm still not a fan of Sobeck basically being this near-perfect Christ figure to the point that GAIA's solution to poo poo is just "well if I just clone Sobeck she'll be amazing and solve everything."

I figured that was just GAIA's AI being "human" enough that when everything went tits-up, her first idea was to make a clone of her mother to fix everything for her.

Also whoever fixed things was going to need to be able to access Zero Dawn sites which means beating scanners.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
okay the 36" WEGA is inside. my body is bent but not broken.

time to play master quest.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


aloy is a white messiah figure who turns up and dispels the superstitions of the tribes, imo she would be a lot better character if she was just a tribal girl who found that head chip
the actual well written stuff is the backstory of what happened to the world

though i ultimately felt the reveal was a bit silly where they dont have the resources or time to crack the password to the killer robots, they instead DO have the time to create several AI gods and ridiculous enormous projects needed to restart the world

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Joyous.
Tsushima post:

I beat the game a couple days ago, over 80% of the achievements / map stuff done. My thoughts are collected and I just need to vent a bit in order to retire the game...feel free to ignore.

The ending scene is very good, but very derivative if you've been watching this kind-of stuff (jidaigeki / chambara) since your teens like I have. Not worth going through the game to see the ending, but still left me feeling somewhat satisfied with the experience.

The combat is so very good, but not from an "gameplay innovation" standpoint. It's like mo-cap porn, and I'm not being pejorative about that. I genuinely love seeing all the slashes and enemy movement animations interacting. Enjoying the entire game is really akin to appreciating a HK action film: you're there to appreciate the movement of bodies, not so much the narrative. Someone needs to tell Sucker Punch to do a wu-xia title; in fact, they probably should've gone to China instead of Japan in the first place: you'd have more liberties to tell a legitimate melodrama. A moving story that wasn't overtly imperialistic and flat-out boring would've been nice....

The "bad" in Tsushima is mostly the outdated game design. I've seen a billion posts on this in this thread and they're all correct. Also, the entire facade of using Asian-American actors to hide a "competently respectful" island-invasion drama *COUGH* *COUGH* nags at me.

OK, carry on.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Communist Thoughts posted:

aloy is a white messiah figure who turns up and dispels the superstitions of the tribes, imo she would be a lot better character if she was just a tribal girl who found that head chip
the actual well written stuff is the backstory of what happened to the world

I do wish that the head chip gave her a lot less information at the start that it did. I really dislike that we have this setting of people who all have their own beliefs and superstitions and religions based on the post-apoc/rebirth history, but we see it all from the perspective of someone who knows from the start that all of it's bullshit. It felt jarring when I played it around the same time as I did W3 and AC:O, which both lean a lot further into their settings.

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Joyous.
Also, last thing wrt Tsushima, the devs need to accept that dodge rolling is incredibly OP and simply remove the rubber-banding on enemy attacks. The gameplay should be more QTE, less hand-eye.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


men only want one thing and it's disgusting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbzbm3nBRyg

The Joe Man
Apr 7, 2007

Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

Doc Hawkins posted:

men only want one thing and it's disgusting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbzbm3nBRyg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSXofLK5hFQ

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

MoaM posted:

Also, last thing wrt Tsushima, the devs need to accept that dodge rolling is incredibly OP and simply remove the rubber-banding on enemy attacks. The gameplay should be more QTE, less hand-eye.

wtf no it should be the opposite of QTE

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Joyous.
lol, I just want to watch Jin shadow slash bamboo sticks...

that is my love of the game

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Joyous.
realtalk: I think just find the game's combat loop too simple and the 'pause to change stance' aspect could use a once-over. That's where the 'QTE' wish comes from, sorta.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Doc Hawkins posted:

men only want one thing and it's disgusting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbzbm3nBRyg

I was like what the hell is this fuckin braid

It was braid

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

SniperWoreConverse posted:

I was like what the hell is this fuckin braid

It was braid

Jesus Christ was that game pretentious. Fun, but completely up its own rear end.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
I feel like there was a shitload of stuff I missed, despite beating it and I don't really know what it's about at all except the if you wanna drink beer and get drunk or you wanna smoke weed and get high aspect that there's no point to the game

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Communist Thoughts posted:

aloy is a white messiah figure who turns up and dispels the superstitions of the tribes, imo she would be a lot better character if she was just a tribal girl who found that head chip
the actual well written stuff is the backstory of what happened to the world

though i ultimately felt the reveal was a bit silly where they dont have the resources or time to crack the password to the killer robots, they instead DO have the time to create several AI gods and ridiculous enormous projects needed to restart the world

I dunno, I like that
she literally was the smartest person in the world , and it wasn't just video game hero solving problems but an intentional recreation of the best person possible to solve the problems

Terminal autist
May 17, 2018

by vyelkin

MoaM posted:

lol, I just want to watch Jin shadow slash bamboo sticks...

that is my love of the game

Thats where I'm at with the game. The aesthetics really carry the game for me and fits into that assassins creed style game where I can overlook the functional but unimpressive gameplay because Im stoned and like to look at pretty trees. My favorite part of the game and whats gonna stick with me is clearing a fight and swiping on the pad to sheath my sword.

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Joyous.
After the halfway point I would just arrow headshot from horse and Triangle QTE slash to start every fight because it's cooler and feels better than Standoffs.


----


Braid is a good game, but it was "discussed" and lauded way more than it deserved to be.
True fact: Super Mario World 2 seemed at the time and still seems way more subversive than Braid.

e: seemed at the time more subversive of platformers / general game design.

MoaM has issued a correction as of 00:12 on Aug 7, 2020

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

mastershakeman posted:

I dunno, I like that
she literally was the smartest person in the world , and it wasn't just video game hero solving problems but an intentional recreation of the best person possible to solve the problems

resurrecting abuela to solve our problems. the ultimate yass queen.... :abuela:

Augus
Mar 9, 2015



holy poo poo lmao

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Grapplejack posted:

resurrecting abuela to solve our problems. the ultimate yass queen.... :abuela:

I dunno, clearly it's good we have this genetically superior white person to save all these primitive tribal folk

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


mastershakeman posted:

I dunno, I like that
she literally was the smartest person in the world , and it wasn't just video game hero solving problems but an intentional recreation of the best person possible to solve the problems

all the problems are basically solved by shooting them with bows and poking them with a spear though
sylens is the smart one, aloy is just allowed inside special doors by plot fiat cause shes a magic clone

i like whoever's idea it was that its basically the AI trying to bring back their mum to help.
i think thats ultimately the only thing made more interesting about the story by having aloy be a clone, and its to flesh out an AI in a flashback

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