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# ? Aug 9, 2020 07:03 |
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 14:52 |
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this is bad imo
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 07:07 |
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ok
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 07:08 |
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seems bad
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 07:37 |
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What's bad about it? Whichever we're talking about
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 08:01 |
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So you disagree this is bad? I think I agree. "Ok."
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 08:02 |
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that little blip for 15-19 year old children is approximately the time that Blizzard's StarCraft was released, checks out
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 08:06 |
Nnice, less children are dying. dont know why theres a thread about it though
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 08:09 |
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Man Musk posted:that little blip for 15-19 year old children is approximately the time that Blizzard's StarCraft was released, checks out kekeke
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 08:10 |
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Hoping your posting rate follows the same pattern, op
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 08:15 |
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ends in 2013
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 08:28 |
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Yeah the world has been getting better. (barring the current pandemic / Riots) https://www.gapminder.org/ Wander around these videos, to see people raising healthy children. https://www.gapminder.org/tools/?from=world#$chart-type=bubbles https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/17/worlds-population-is-projected-to-nearly-stop-growing-by-the-end-of-the-century/ Population is already slowing down and looking to stabilize in 2100 How important washing machines are. https://www.gapminder.org/videos/hans-rosling-and-the-magic-washing-machine/ Crime in the United States Peaked in 1993. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States Hell New York PD caused a slow down and Crime dropped in 2014 https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/09/04/nypd-arrests-plunge-slowdown/ https://newrepublic.com/article/154895/new-york-police-slowdown-backfiring Prison is still high because of the slavery clause in the 13th amendment. Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ7yN52tE5k Slavery for both labour and sex work. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/us-modern-slavery-report-global-slavery-index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_21st_century https://www.globalslaveryindex.org/ This all looks bad from 1945's to now, but slavery was a grand human institution. In greek one guy was so poor that "he couldn't even afford a slave." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_Census In 1860's the US had above 6% percent of the population of the US was a slave. Total Population: 31,443,322 Slave Population: 3,953,762 Cancer and heart attacks are the killers today when Disease used to wipe people out. It's why your grand parents had 10 kids. Those kids were either going to die at child birth, or die before they were ten, and in the case of women, die from giving child birth. https://www.statista.com/statistics/235703/major-causes-of-death-in-the-us/ https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2016/1/25/mortality-in-the-united-states-past-present-and-future Drug Usage is up, but it's like heart attack where it's people committing suicide by making unhealthy choices due to a bad environment. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db329.htm The US can easily feed everybody in the country and a sizable percentage of the world . The USA work force is made up of less then 2% farmers, when in 1900's 80% of the work force was farming. Farming was hard work and risky. https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/farming-industry-facts-us-2019-5-1028242678 https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-us-land-use/ All those jobs are gone to automation and the world is better for it. There are new jobs, like generic rear end computer touchers. https://www.scaruffi.com/politics/world18.html#wor1018 https://www.scaruffi.com/news/opin1112.html Hydroponic and Mixed Farming are staring to be utilized In India https://www.forbesindia.com/article/forbes-lifes/how-indias-hydroponic-farmers-are-building-businesses/54327/1 Mixed Farming in the world. https://venngage.net/p/223277/mixed-crop-and-livestock-farming But Biologist in Boston are making head way into Artificial intelligence Stock pile of nuclear weapons has been going down. https://ourworldindata.org/nuclear-weapons https://fas.org/issues/nuclear-weapons/status-world-nuclear-forces/ There are a couple missing https://www.iflscience.com/technology/the-us-has-lost-six-nuclear-weapons-so-where-the-hell-are-they/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_nuclear_device And vice found supposedly found some explosive on the black market - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c4f4NJSB_4 Well it was going down until Trump Supporters wanted to reverse that https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/17/nuclear-arms-race-is-back-and-more-dangerous-than-before Wars are less deadly. https://ourworldindata.org/war-and-peace We are living in one of the most peaceful times in human history. Sure climate change is a problem. But it's not a problem. Humans are good at fixing any problem. If we put energy into it. Climate change could be fixed in a snap. The fix is Humans don't die. Humans can nuke the planet till all life is dead, and the earth doesn't give a gently caress about you and will keep on making life till the sun's heat death The aliens will be sad of all the animals that died. The Real fear of climate change is your worthless life being ended by death, or living a miserable life starving and then dying. All the older people don't care. They believe they are dead before dealing with consequences. Pretend they were all dead right now. Would the world still look the same? Less Military would reduce pollution https://qz.com/1655268/us-military-is-a-bigger-polluter-than-140-countries-combined/ If people could reduce the necessity to drive and not buy cheap poo poo, that would also reduce emissions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_contributors_to_greenhouse_gas_emissions Poverty: The 70's had the hugest amount of world poverty, and it's almost gone, but that last couple million people is hard to bring out. UBI tomorrow could fix that. https://www.gapminder.org/videos/dont-panic-end-poverty/ How the US measures poverty. https://www.irp.wisc.edu/resources/how-is-poverty-measured/ How the world bank measure poverty https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/measuringpoverty Dollar Street https://www.gapminder.org/dollar-street/ The real problem are the people that stand in the way. Same people that don't wear masks, vote in Trump and force you to vote in lesser leaders, don't allow for UBI, and exploit workers around the world and millions of other problems. Sure yea I benefit from it, but if you gave me a magic wand to change poo poo to what ever experts say would be the best for the world and humanity, I would wave that wand, and you would too. Many people would, except for those crazy people. But gently caress if I'm ever going to say "the world is getting better." Too many "intellectuals" KNOW the worlds is getting worse for their short term perspective. https://www.gapminder.org/ignorance/ Why We Cling To The Police - Carlos Maza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0smZ8oYe60 And it is possible for the world to get worse. (Because of Covid the Millennial generation will lose a couple years of their life span) Also when people think something is bad they are more motivated to fix that problem. ~~~~ So don't quote this poo poo. ~~~~ So yeah. The world is poo poo. We're all gonna die in five years. mazzi Chart Czar has issued a correction as of 17:05 on Aug 11, 2020 |
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e-dt posted:Nnice, less children are dying. dont know why theres a thread about it though mazzi Chart Czar posted:Crime in the United States Peaked in 1993.
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 09:00 |
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what was the island like dr pinker
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 09:17 |
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:Sure climate change is a problem. But it's not a problem. Humans are good at fixing any problem. If we put energy into it. Climate change could be fixed in a snap. quote:The Adorable Optimism of the IPCC
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 10:41 |
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yes, videogames are good
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 11:02 |
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WONKBLOG
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 13:50 |
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:Yeah the world has been getting better. (barring the current pandemic / Riots) I realize that you agree the world is poo poo, but in case you actually believe the dumb statistics you quoted: Child deaths will massively increase as a function of the pandemic, the depression and the complete overload of the hospital industry. Crime will go up as a global pandemic and depression is sweeping the planet. Yes reducing endemic diseases are good, but noting the reduction in disease during a loving pandemic is laughable. "If we just discount this massive source of death, numbers are looking good". Particularly silly when Covid-19 is not just an effective killer, but leaves people maimed that will die a few years later. Drug usage is up and will only grow to new heights between the Covid victims in permanent pain and everybody else in existential pain. It is great that fewer people have to work to feed the population, not so great that it is rapidly depleting aquifers and is therefore completely unsustainable. The nuclear arsenal reduction treaties mostly resulted in more warheads on each missile (MIRVs): https://fas.org/blogs/security/2016/10/new-start-data-2016/ "Moreover, New START contains no sub-limits, which enables both sides to take advantage of loopholes. Whereas the now-abandoned START II treaty banned multiple warheads (MIRV) on ICBMs, the New START treaty has no such limits, which enables Russia to incorporate MIRV on its new ICBMs and the United States to store hundreds of non-deployed warheads for re-MIRVing of its ICBMs. Russia is developing a new “heavy” ICBM with MIRV and the next U.S. ICBM (GBSD) will be capable of carrying MIRV as well. Similarly, the “fake” bomber count of attributing only one deployed strategic weapon per bomber despite its capacity to carry many more has caused both sides to retain large inventories of non-deployed weapons to retain a quick upload capability with many hundreds of long-range nuclear cruise missiles. And both sides are developing new nuclear-armed cruise missiles." Wars are only less deadly if we look at "battle-related death", most deaths in wars are not the result of combat. Have a look at your own source, check "Conflict deaths per 100k" and realize that the death toll is back to 1995 levels. The global poverty metrics have been heavily criticised: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4547200/ "Thus, the tighter definition of poverty used by the World Bank tends to lead to a better-looking poverty trend, because the poverty line is too low the trend it reports is too rosy." And finally this notion of skipping over global warming as just a matter of a "snap" is laughable. The effects are baked in over a multi-decade timeline. Washing machines being good however, I will grant.
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 14:07 |
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according to that.chart, 90% of all children who made it to 15 immediately died
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 14:10 |
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Victory Position posted:according to that.chart, 90% of all children who made it to 15 immediately died sick!
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 14:14 |
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is this the anti natalist thread
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 15:29 |
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 16:27 |
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Relin posted:is this the anti natalist thread Look at every other thread in cspam op
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 16:35 |
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I don't know why permadepression crew even bothers posting.
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 16:36 |
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Heated Gaming Moment posted:Hoping your posting rate follows the same pattern, op
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 16:38 |
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Lawman 0 posted:I don't know why permadepression crew even bothers posting. I think it's a instinctive desire to spread the despair as to share it and maybe lessen it? But as we're all detached from each other on the internet it just spreads the despair and doesn't make anyone feel any better. Kinda like a virus.
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 18:05 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:I think it's a instinctive desire to spread the despair as to share it and maybe lessen it? But as we're all detached from each other on the internet it just spreads the despair and doesn't make anyone feel any better. Kinda like a virus. If anybody wants to make the world a better place, it needs to be communicated that it isn't currently happening and won't happen if we just lean back, pat ourselves on the back and say "job well done". So if you still believe that the World Bank is acting in good faith, when they claim that global poverty has been practically eliminated, you need to be dissuaded of this illusion. Their measure is trash and they are not helping (and they never have). This goes for practically any other statistic mentioned here, "we have reduced the nuclear stockpile!" (except they didn't, they kinda-sorta reduced delivery vehicles), "wars are less deadly now!" (unless you are a civilian) or "agriculture can feed the world!" (except it is unsustainable). Call it spreading the despair or call it optimism that things can change if someone actually tried. The neoliberals are not actually trying, they have never actually tried and they will never actually try.
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 18:25 |
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this is why zoomers are so annoying. they're too safe... for now...
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 18:27 |
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Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*. Incrementally, you begin to notice a change in the weather. When it snows, the flakes are softer when they stick to your worry-worn forehead. When it rains, the rain is warmer. Democracy is coming to the Administrative Region. The ideals of Dolorian humanism are reinstating themselves. How can they not? These are the ideals of the Coalition and the Moralist International. Those guys are signal blue. And they're not only good -- they're also powerful. What will it be like, once their nuanced plans have been realized?
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 18:31 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:I think it's a instinctive desire to spread the despair as to share it and maybe lessen it? But as we're all detached from each other on the internet it just spreads the despair and doesn't make anyone feel any better. Kinda like a virus. misery, like margarine, gets thinner as you spread it around
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 19:05 |
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 19:19 |
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normally i am a bright-eyed and cheerful poster but when somebody starts posting steven pinker's jerk off material i get mad
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 22:28 |
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animist posted:normally i am a bright-eyed and cheerful poster but when somebody starts posting steven pinker's jerk off material i get mad Pretty sure that'll get cops called on you
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# ? Aug 9, 2020 22:37 |
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quote:It’s exhilarating to watch “The best stats you’ve ever seen” today – partly because of Rosling’s nerdy, high-energy stage performance, but also because it seems to shine the bracing light of objective fact on questions usually mired in angry partisanship. Far more than when he delivered the talk, we live now in the Age of the Take, in which a seemingly infinite supply of blog posts, opinion columns, books and TV talking heads compete to tell us how to feel about the news. Most of this opinionising focuses less on stacking up hard facts in favour of an argument than it does on declaring what attitude you ought to adopt: the typical take invites you to conclude, say, that Donald Trump is a fascist, or that he isn’t, or that BBC presenters are overpaid, or that your yoga practice is an instance of cultural appropriation. (This shouldn’t really come as a surprise: the internet economy is fuelled by attention, and it’s far easier to seize someone’s attention with emotionally charged argument than mere information – plus you don’t have to pay for the expensive reporting required to ferret out the facts.) The New Optimists promise something different: a way to feel about the state of the world based on the way it really is. get out of here dr. pinker
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# ? Aug 10, 2020 00:23 |
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Lawman 0 posted:I don't know why permadepression crew even bothers posting. I don't know why people outside of permadepression crew even bother posting. We at least feel like we don't have anything better to do with our time, after all.
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# ? Aug 10, 2020 03:59 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:I think it's a instinctive desire to spread the despair as to share it and maybe lessen it? But as we're all detached from each other on the internet it just spreads the despair and doesn't make anyone feel any better. Kinda like a virus. the internet is full of mind viruses and something awful is something of a melting pot for them. i’ve seen it said that some of them were created by the government, but it is mostly been said during a complete meltdown so ymmv. anyway you’re posting in one
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