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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

food court bailiff posted:

the switch doesn’t even have a web browser for porn afaik lol, but nice try I guess

It can' even play video? lol, owned by an ipod from 15 years ago

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Oct 9, 2005


Gaming laptops are a bad idea from a cost (especially versus performance), usability, and durability perspective. Basically every perspective.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

FoolyCharged posted:

The Nintendo e shop is a million times worse than steam's because at least if I search the strategy genre on steam I'll likely see xcom or something. Meanwhile I browsed it on a whim on Nintendo and it took probably a dozen new page loads before I saw a proper strategy game.

I'd like it more if Nintendo made an effort to port-up games from previous mobile Nintendo consoles. On a PC I at least have GOG or Steam adjustments for old games, instead of needing to worry about having exactly the right handheld console and exactly the right physical game unless it's one of those super-favorites that always gets remade for new consoles.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Cythereal posted:

I'd like it more if Nintendo made an effort to port-up games from previous mobile Nintendo consoles. On a PC I at least have GOG or Steam adjustments for old games, instead of needing to worry about having exactly the right handheld console and exactly the right physical game unless it's one of those super-favorites that always gets remade for new consoles.

sony is the worst for this, imo- I can buy mega man legends 1, 2 and the spin-off Misadventures of Tron Bonne on the psn, but for some insanely asinine reason the latter two are only playable on the vita even though the ps3 handles PSOne games off the PSN without an issue

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

gaming laptops are convenient when you dont live in one place all the time

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

food court bailiff posted:

sony is the worst for this, imo- I can buy mega man legends 1, 2 and the spin-off Misadventures of Tron Bonne on the psn, but for some insanely asinine reason the latter two are only playable on the vita even though the ps3 handles PSOne games off the PSN without an issue

This annoys me as well because every PS3 ever made literally has the PS1 hardware already built in. I can load any PS1 disk into my fat PS3 and it plays just fine.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

A gaming laptop can be used as a regular portable computer which is a pretty point in its favour imo

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Shibawanko posted:

gaming laptops are convenient when you dont live in one place all the time


ilmucche posted:

A gaming laptop can be used as a regular portable computer which is a pretty point in its favour imo

yeah I got mine so I could do at least SOME art/rendering/music crap if the mood struck while I was traveling for work twice a week, it’s nice having a midrange portable machine

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Gaming laptops are a bad idea from a cost (especially versus performance), usability, and durability perspective. Basically every perspective.

Love 2 drag a desktop with me everywhere I go. Also love to carve out space which is already at a premium in my tiny rear end apartment for a desk exclusively used for a pc. Also haven't had an usability issues since moving from a desktop to laptop main so I'm not sure what that's about

Shibawanko posted:

gaming laptops are convenient when you dont live in one place all the time

ilmucche posted:

A gaming laptop can be used as a regular portable computer which is a pretty point in its favour imo

site fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Aug 9, 2020

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Gaming laptops are a bad idea from a cost (especially versus performance), usability, and durability perspective. Basically every perspective.

That's only if you're trying to play cutting edge poo poo at 144 Hz though, if you shoot lower then you basically just get a console with a built-in screen, touchpad, and keyboard.

A few years ago I bought a laptop with a GTX 1060, it weighs basically nothing (5 lbs), it doesn't have thermal issues, and it didn't cost much. Was it less performant than a desktop from the same era? Absolutely. Its main advantage was mobility, basically giving me a transportable mobile console that has access to my Steam library and that I can use for other laptop things, like presentations

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Yes, please keep explaining what a "computer" is, this is fascinating stuff

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Since people seem to have never considered the use cases of owning a gaming laptop I'm not sure what the problem is

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Playing video games on a laptop at home loving sucks unless you’re using it with a mouse which ... defeats the purpose of having a laptop.

Controller, though.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


"I have no choice but to use a gaming laptop" =/= gaming laptops are good

"Ah, but did you know it was portable?"

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

just lol if you don’t play pc games with a DS4 or steam controller or something

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
I do 90 percent of my pc gaming with an xbone controller. I own a steam controller but that thing is as hosed as a soup sandwich.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Sodomy Hussein posted:

"I have no choice but to use a gaming laptop" =/= gaming laptops are good

"Ah, but did you know it was portable?"

You keep saying they are bad, but I have not had any bad experiences with mine?

jokes posted:

Playing video games on a laptop at home loving sucks unless you’re using it with a mouse which ... defeats the purpose of having a laptop.

Controller, though.

Do people go trackpad only even when not gaming? I didnt see people doing that at school, people don't do it at work, I dont do that myself at home unless I'm just reading a comic or something.

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I do 90 percent of my pc gaming with an xbone controller.

Also this

site fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Aug 9, 2020

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I do 90 percent of my pc gaming with an xbone controller. I own a steam controller but that thing is as hosed as a soup sandwich.

Yeah xbone and 55” tv as monitor

The heat sink is like half the contents of the laptop so passive cooling works for most things

Windows, PShop and AC on the NVME, Steam games on a platter drive and a 10TB drive for movies and tv shows and uninstalled games/skyrim mods

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I do 90 percent of my pc gaming with an xbone controller. I own a steam controller but that thing is as hosed as a soup sandwich.

it’s got a really dumb huge learning curve and a disturbing lack of a second stick but if they fixed the latter it would be my favorite controller by a longshot

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

jokes posted:

Playing video games on a laptop at home loving sucks unless you’re using it with a mouse which ... defeats the purpose of having a laptop.

Controller, though.

FYI a mouse is even more transportable than a laptop, and you aren't forced to only take one when you travel

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Sodomy Hussein posted:

"I have no choice but to use a gaming laptop" =/= gaming laptops are good

"Ah, but did you know it was portable?"

Laptops with mid-tier graphics cards are good in all the same ways that computers are generally good. No one is making you buy something that melts off your genitals and weighs 20 lbs

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


Rutibex posted:

the Nintendo Switch is the best platform for playing indy roguelikes and metriodvanias. i don't care if Skyrim is still $60 skyrim sucks. gimmie this action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZZuo7Xpmqs

this is really fun I had no idea it also had ftl style stage movement, really digging it thanks!

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

QuarkJets posted:

FYI a mouse is even more transportable than a laptop, and you aren't forced to only take one when you travel

It's not about transporting a mouse it's that you need to use the mouse on a suitable surface which usually means people game on a desk... with a laptop.

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Once you get past the super high learning curve, the steam controller is fun to use

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

jokes posted:

It's not about transporting a mouse it's that you need to use the mouse on a suitable surface which usually means people game on a desk... with a laptop.

Most surfaces are suitable, in my experience. Like a glass table won't do but I usually don't have trouble finding surfaces to use a mouse on

At worst, a mouse pad is also easy to transport

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

jokes posted:

It's not about transporting a mouse it's that you need to use the mouse on a suitable surface which usually means people game on a desk... with a laptop.

That's what the lapboard is for. Don't need a desk

silence_kit
Jul 14, 2011

by the sex ghost

Cythereal posted:

I'd like it more if Nintendo made an effort to port-up games from previous mobile Nintendo consoles. On a PC I at least have GOG or Steam adjustments for old games, instead of needing to worry about having exactly the right handheld console and exactly the right physical game unless it's one of those super-favorites that always gets remade for new consoles.

The Wii U and Nintendo 3DS online old Nintendo game libraries ('Wii U & Nintendo 3DS Virtual Console') are great. I don't know why Nintendo hasn't ported them to the Switch. Seems like it would be easy money for them.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

jokes posted:

It's not about transporting a mouse it's that you need to use the mouse on a suitable surface which usually means people game on a desk... with a laptop.

My last mouse was a finicky thing and would only read off a minute few surfaces. Turns out the corner of the laptop is usually all the space you need for mousery.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Sid Vicious posted:

this is really fun I had no idea it also had ftl style stage movement, really digging it thanks!

glad you’re enjoying it man!

video games are good

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Good soup! posted:

Once you get past the super high learning curve, the steam controller is fun to use

I learning curved that controller to a friend who has also let it collect dust. Neat idea but needed more work, plus, no games were designed with it in mind. Seems like these days very few games/genres actually benefit from kb+m anymore so normal controllers do the job most times.

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


food court bailiff posted:

glad you’re enjoying it man!

video games are good

It's seriously scratching an itch I thought would never get relief

SoR Blaze
Apr 12, 2006
The Steam Controller owns bones, it's not great for a lot of genres but it's excellent for any game where you can take your time. Using the left trackpad as a 10 button touch menu complete with little icons on the overlay is really nice for a game that isn't designed for a controller that needs a lot of hotkeys. 7 days to die comes to mind, as does Wizardry 7. I'm really glad I have one even though it's not my main controller by any stretch of the imagination. It would definitely be improved by a second stick though.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

the steam controller automatically syncs with my tv which has a native steam link app and it’s basically fuckin magic

meanwhile I cannot find any way to stream peacock on the loving thing (don’t judge, it has Columbo, dang it)

Sid Vicious posted:

It's seriously scratching an itch I thought would never get relief

all signs point to a mega man battle network collection coming out sooner than later, the question is whether it’ll support online battling. fingers crossed!!


e: remnant from the ashes is free on epic next week(?) and I bought it during the last steam sale, it’s super janky in exactly the way I enjoy but I am not far at all in it because I am terrible at it, but anyway I think I would really enjoy playing it with some of you people and your godawful stupid video game opinions

Rockman Reserve fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Aug 10, 2020

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

silence_kit posted:

The Wii U and Nintendo 3DS online old Nintendo game libraries ('Wii U & Nintendo 3DS Virtual Console') are great. I don't know why Nintendo hasn't ported them to the Switch. Seems like it would be easy money for them.

They instead have the NES/SNES online thing where if you have a subscription to the only service you can play them, though it's kind of its own brand of bullshit especially given how meager the library is and they take forever to add new games that are usually random poo poo nobody's ever heard of

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

the fact that the snes cd was never released was a blessing in disguise because 16 bit cd rom systems added virtually nothing and resulted in a lot of bad games. secret of mana is probably better off with most of its content cut because lets be honest it was probably going to be anime cutscenes and stuff

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

food court bailiff posted:

sony is the worst for this, imo- I can buy mega man legends 1, 2 and the spin-off Misadventures of Tron Bonne on the psn, but for some insanely asinine reason the latter two are only playable on the vita even though the ps3 handles PSOne games off the PSN without an issue

i have Misadventures of Tron Bonne on my PS3 and it plays fine :confused:

KajiTheMelonMan
Sep 2, 2004

I killed a Tuskarr
e: I'm an idiot and can't post in the right thread

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

i was harsh on mario 3 earlier in here so i decided to play it again to see if im wrong, im doing a full playthrough without using flutes on a real cart on my famicom

the game is good of course but it definitely has way more annoyances than it should have. one thing i didnt really notice that much before is how the collision detection is kind of off. there are moments where you feel like you should have landed on an enemy but you dont, or you do but mario reacts strangely and gains no momentum from jumping on something where you'd expect him to (this seems to happen with the cannonballs in the ship stages). i hate the ship stages and especially how the ship flies away if you die, so you have to pointlessly run around the map to find it again

i already mentioned this before but the game has far too many autoscrolling stages and particularly unforgivable is how it sometimes corners you into unwinnable paths. at some point in the world 3 ship stage theres a bit where you get to choose two apparently viable paths forward, but if you use the bottom one the stage scrolls up so you die unless you get out really fast, which happens without warning. you just have to know not to take that path or try again

a lot of the stages also feel too short, like they just cut up a single stage into two bits and scattered them around the map, as a result you spend more time on the map doing nothing. smw fixed this by making levels a lot bigger but giving you a halfway point too. in fact, smw fixed most of the issues with smb3 which probably means that the developers were aware of the problems. smw does have maze levels too for example, but theyre far less frustrating since theres usually some kind of logic to how they work, where in smb3 the maze is often like "pick the correct door or you lose"

i still really dont like the clouds bonus stage or just how much the game makes you jump at coins. theres a lot of p-block bits where you jump on the block, mindlessly collect some coins and go on. whats the point? coins in smw and smb1 have a function: they indicate the correct path for mario to jump along, guiding you through the level, or occasionally putting you in risk-reward situations where you could collect some coins but you have to dodge something else at the same time. smb3 does this too but too often its just "yo collect this ocean of coins please" and it doesnt really add to the game, similar to the bonus stages in donkey kong country where you are just hoovering up golden statues

game's also just too long. im midway through world 4 and paused and turned off my tv. if this was smb1 i'd be almost done by now but actually playing through smb3 from start to finish without flutes is kind of a chore and seems like it would be annoying for a kid to have to turn off their nintendo before being able to finish the game. the alternative to this is to do a flute run and go straight to world 8 but world 8 suuuuucks so this is also a miserable way to play the game

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

lives in mario, except smb1 and lost levels, are a purely psychological "make the number go up" cookie clicker type thing since i dont think ive ever actually run out of lives in one of those games, which is also why coins should only be there to suggest a path to the player and not as a serious thing you must collect to survive

i think i also prefer smb1 over 3 because it just feels more precarious, it's possible to lose but the game is short enough that that's not a huge bummer or anything. actually losing a run in smb3 would suck so theyve made it almost impossible

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I feel like SMB3 style level design works well for Super Mario Maker, mind. I like using it for short-and-sweet levels.

It's kind of unusual among the classic Mario games for level length. SMB1 levels tended to be longer, SMB2 even moreso (yes, I'm aware it wasn't originally a Mario game) and SMW varied but tended to take advantage of its newly introduced checkpoints. Quite possibly they went for shorter level design both to fit more levels onto a NES cartridge and because they didn't have checkpoints yet.

Shibawanko posted:

lives in mario, except smb1 and lost levels, are a purely psychological "make the number go up" cookie clicker type thing since i dont think ive ever actually run out of lives in one of those games, which is also why coins should only be there to suggest a path to the player and not as a serious thing you must collect to survive

Remember these games are made for literal children

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