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Codependent Poster posted:How many times can Shane say "that's good that's good that's good" in one night? Twist ending: he says after four weeks “that’s great”
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Please stop talking SethSeth Rollins posted:There is more of an emphasis on moments. At the end of the day, moments are what people remember as opposed to entire matches, unless the moment is the match, which is not often. If this stipulation had happened in the middle of the Attitude Era, I don't think anybody would have scoffed at it. It would have been a crazy moment of wild stuff happening in WWE. Obviously, 20 years later, things are different in the way we watch things. The moment was meant to create interest in the casual viewer. The moment you say 'eye for an eye match,' the hardcore wrestling fan is like, 'Oh, please, why can't they just let these two wrestle?' At the end of the day, the wrestling spoke for itself and the end moment ended up on TMZ. We're doing a service to both of our audiences. We gave them a great wrestling match on the front end and gave the casual viewer a reason to watch.
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Is it just me or does “an emphasis on moments” run counter to “long term storytelling?” I mean I get he’s just arguing whatever’s convenient. But take a breath.
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Aug 10, 2020 18:53
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The eye moment ended up on TMZ. That's what you're proud of?
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I tried to remember all the WWE "moments" I could from 2017 and I legit can't remember anything. From this year I can remember Drew winning the belt at Mania, the eyeball thing, and the boneyard match. That's it.
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STAC Goat posted:Is it just me or does “an emphasis on moments” run counter to “long term storytelling?” Pretty much. At least the moment one is honest and is the more common WWE talking point, their booking philosophy has been focused on "moments" for a long time.
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is pepsi ok posted:I tried to remember all the WWE "moments" I could from 2017 and I legit can't remember anything. From this year I can remember Drew winning the belt at Mania, the eyeball thing, and the boneyard match. That's it. How can you forget Braun destroying a car and Roman getting trapped under scaffolding?
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Aug 10, 2020 19:00
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Who could forget the moment when Jinder Mahal won the title?
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Rarity posted:Who could forget the moment when Jinder Mahal won the title? or the moment he finally got a real rub /cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9839881/TripsMahal.png)
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Aug 10, 2020 19:04
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Barry Bluejeans posted:or the moment he finally got a real rub  i never saw this picture before
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Aug 10, 2020 19:05
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what casual viewers, seth
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Barry Bluejeans posted:or the moment he finally got a real rub jesus christ
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Neodoomium posted:what casual viewers, seth the ones reading TMZ, obviously
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Aug 10, 2020 19:14
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oh but seriously I posted:jesus christ Triple H won that match in India too. It was what the fans there wanted to see.
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Aug 10, 2020 19:17
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Rarity posted:Please stop talking Seth They clearly do give a poo poo about what their fans think because they keep sending him out there. These last few ones have been some real "Dig up, Stupid!" quotes.
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Aug 10, 2020 19:49
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Rarity posted:At the end of the day, the wrestling spoke for itself and the end moment ended up on TMZ. We're doing a service to both of our audiences. We gave them a great wrestling match on the front end and gave the casual viewer a reason to watch.
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How would anyone expect casual fans to be into the product when the people that dedicate most of their lives to it are embarrassed by it?
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HidaO-Win posted:Triple H won that match in India too.
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HidaO-Win posted:Triple H won that match in India too. That was also the India tour where they had Jinder drop the belt the week before right? That did lead to Styles/Lesnar, but I still feel cheated out of a Jinder/Brock match.
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I like how Seth's idea of a big moment for casual viewers is a guy's face getting pretend mashed against some steps and then him throwing up and anyone who's like "hey can we just watch good the two of you have a good match" is a loving dork who should just stop talking and realize how important TMZ coverage is.
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Aug 10, 2020 21:13
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What's the last long term story in WWE that wasn't poo poo? Daniel Bryan vs The Authority? And even that was due to the audience forcing them to not gently caress it up.
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Aug 10, 2020 21:30
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Becky vs The World was pretty good and that was also because the audience refused to accept them shoving her aside or shoving Charlotte into her spot
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Aug 10, 2020 21:32
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Just like Fight Club nobody is talking about Raw Underground either
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Rarity posted:Love to have official merch ready to go for my secret illicit fight club It pains me on a deep level to know someone is spending 30 bucks on one (or both) of these shirts
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Aug 10, 2020 21:36
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Kofi's leadup the winning the title at WM was a good underdog story, even if it have endless "Can you beat 5 men in a row?" challenges every week. I don't know if it counts as a storyline, but the initial Firefly Funhouse stuff into Wyatt returning at Summerslam was probably the last time I was actually interested in what I was watching.
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Orange Carlisle posted:Just like Fight Club nobody is talking about Raw Underground either You gave me a nice laugh with that one thank you
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There is definitely a problem with casual fans and long term stories. But there aren't any casual fans left. If you're still watching wrestling you're in deep.
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shame* cmon son
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Fish Of Doom posted:Kofi's leadup the winning the title at WM was a good underdog story, even if it have endless "Can you beat 5 men in a row?" challenges every week. I don't know if it counts as a storyline, but the initial Firefly Funhouse stuff into Wyatt returning at Summerslam was probably the last time I was actually interested in what I was watching. Too bad Vince is a loving moron that dumpstered the Kofi run and pissed people off for nothing. Unless Brock refused to have a competitive match with Kofi and I seriously doubt Brock gives a poo poo.
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Brock is willing to bump his rear end off, but I guess the question is whether the huge stretches of him not bumping for anyone are his idea or Vince's.
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Blooming Brilliant posted:That was also the India tour where they had Jinder drop the belt the week before right? man Brock throwing around Jinder like a child would be so loving great
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Spiderdrake posted:Too bad Vince is a loving moron that dumpstered the Kofi run and pissed people off for nothing. Unless Brock refused to have a competitive match with Kofi and I seriously doubt Brock gives a poo poo. Lesnar and Kofi fought in that Beast in the East special, and Kofi got in more offence when he was at that point still a midcarder. So yeah I think it was an entirely conscious decision on Vince's part to throw his champ under the bus for the big debut show.
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Lesnar and Kofi fought in that Beast in the East special, and Kofi got in more offence when he was at that point still a midcarder. I wonder how many potential viewers that squash destroyed.
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Red posted:I wonder how many potential viewers that squash destroyed. At least one
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Red posted:I wonder how many potential viewers that squash destroyed. I was someone who kept coming back to WWE in the dumb hope that the new Fox era would change things, but then that squash happened and oops they were right, I'm dumb for giving them a chance Them turning NXT live to battle with Dynamite was just the cherry on top.
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