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Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


AITA for getting upset that my sister’s fiancé pulled me aside and patted me down at their wedding?

quote:

The title sounds so stupid but here we go anyways.

I’m 24 and I’m an addict who has been in recovery for the past six months.

I used and used until I was basically in poverty and my older sister helped bail me out more than once.

She’s my best friend and I know it hurt her a lot to see me like that.

She also met her fiancé two years ago and he really only knew me as the junkie brother then. He’s not my biggest fan to say the least considering how much I put my sister through.

Despite this she still invited me to her wedding last week because I am her brother and she wanted me to be there.

When I get to the reception, my brother in law is greeting people as they walk in.

When I walk by he pulls me to the side and in front of everyone starts patting me down and says that he needs to check me to make sure I “didn’t bring anything in”. I instinctively pull away, because why wouldn’t I, and I tell him not to touch me.

He tells me to “calm down” and that if I want to be here then he needs to do this. I tell him he’s being ridiculous and I try to push past him. He stops me and tells me that he doesn’t want to throw me out but he “will if he has to.” I told him that he’s trying to look tough but it’s just making him look stupid.

At this point I’m getting more and more angry and I’m practically yelling in his face at this point. Bystanders came between us and separated us and told my BIL to just “drop it.” He said he would but that “they can deal with it when I get out of hand.”

I just went to go find a seat after that.

After the reception, a lot of my family told me that I should’ve let him just do it and that I was acting like a huge rear end in a top hat and like I had “something to hide.”

I don’t think he had any right to pat me down, especially in front of people and I don’t think my reaction was over the top. If anything, he was the one acting like a huge douche by trying to start drama so he can look tough. My sister has refused to take any sides in this.

AITA?

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Miss posted:

AITA for getting upset that my sister’s fiancé pulled me aside and patted me down at their wedding?

6 months clean is like nothing and uh once a junkie and yadda yadda.

He also says he has been in recovery for 6 months not that he's been clean for 6 months which is an interesting choice of words there.

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012
Poster is massaging the hell out of it, in other posts he admits that he's come to family gatherings high before and at one of those got in a fight with the brother in law, but honestly even with all that it didn't need to be public.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

reignonyourparade posted:

Poster is massaging the hell out of it, in other posts he admits that he's come to family gatherings high before and at one of those got in a fight with the brother in law, but honestly even with all that it didn't need to be public.

I'm 99% sure this one has come up before and the consensus was that the BIL should have pulled him aside on the DL but with all the other poo poo that the BIL has gone through I get the frustration.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

MarcusSA posted:

I'm 99% sure this one has come up before and the consensus was that the BIL should have pulled him aside on the DL but with all the other poo poo that the BIL has gone through I get the frustration.

The comments reveal he's gotten physical with the BIL on several occasions, gives some perspective why the BIL wanted to check him in front of everyone in case he swung on him for trying. The rest of the family giving him poo poo for not agreeing to it seems like they've seen the same behavior in the past and aren't going to trust him after just 6 months.

It would've been better to pull him aside into a room where the groomsman were for witness/backup in case he was high, but in general no one really cares about a ex-junkie's feelings and they need to accept they're going to face embarrassment and shame for their past behavior until they earn back people's trust.

pentyne fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Aug 12, 2020

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


AITA for not allowing my daughter to go on an 8th grade school trip.

quote:

This happened three years ago and my daughter "Mallory" still resents us for this. I'm asking now because my son is going to be starting the eighth grade next school year, permitting that schools will reopen again and this event isn't cancelled.

At my kid's school, there is a big annual spring break trip to New York City and Washington D.C. It's something that most of the kids, including my own, were looking forward to. When Mallory started the sixth grade, she talked about wanting to go on the trip. We said she could, so long as she got good grades and didn't get into trouble.

When she was in the seventh grade, her aunt Linda got engaged and set her wedding date for the following year. This was going to include a big family reunion with all the relatives because Linda was the last of my siblings to get married (big fat Catholic family), many of whom we haven't seen in years. Unfortunately, Linda planned her wedding to take place the same week as Mallory's 8th grade spring break.

We ended having to tell Mallory that she couldn't go on the trip afterall because everyone was going to be going to the wedding instead. Like I said, this was going to include a family reunion, and it may be the last time we got to see some relatives including her great-grandparents for a long time.

Mallory was heartbroken. We offered to take a family trip to New York, but she turned it down because she wanted to go with friends and not family. Understandable.

Cut to the week of the wedding a year later. We flew out to New Mexico for the ceremony and crash at my sister's (not the bride's) house. Mallory is still upset about having to be in New Mexico when all of her friends are in New York. A few days before the ceremony was to take place, Linda called off the wedding.

Mallory was furious. I can still remember her blow up. She screamed, "so I missed my trip for nothing?" and stormed off into the room she was sharing with her cousins and wouldn't let anyone in.

It was a mess afterward. I tried to cheer Mallory up by offering to take her sight seeing or go see a movie with her cousins, but she refused. I gave up after she refused to go to the movies with us, saying that she didn't want to watch a 'dumb kids movie with a bunch of babies' (while she is the oldest of the cousins, the next nearest cousin in age was nine at the time). Mallory refused to speak to us during the flight back. To this day, she's still angry at her aunt Linda.

I know Mallory was upset, but no one could have predicted that the wedding would be called off. We have tried to make it up to her, but she has refused every offer. I know she wants a trip with her friends, but that New York trip is expensive and many of her friend's parents were not willing to spend more money on another outing for the girls.

Because of this, Mallory thinks I am an rear end in a top hat. Am I?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Miss posted:

AITA for not allowing my daughter to go on an 8th grade school trip.

Nah NTA.

Like it sucks that the wedding was called off and I get why the kid is angry but it wasn't out of malice that they stopped her from going. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable sending my "younger" kid on a trip while the whole family took another trip to the other side of the country.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

teen witch posted:

I don’t think anyone is thinking of the book.

Plus it’s a totally fine name, people need to take the stick out of their rear end. It’s no Pnurtis

It was on Oprah so that book was how a lot of people learned of the flower to begin with. I wasn't in a Oprah family but I know this just by seeing the book in so many people's houses, lol.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


One more for the road

AITA for not helping my daughter financially after she cuts me off

quote:

I am now in extremely lovely situation. My daughter(Jane) cut all contact with me after my wife made some racist comments about her bf. I agree what she did is disgusting but Jane told me choose either between her or wife. How the hell I am supposed to do that. TBH my wife comes from racist family I called her out many times but I think racism is deeply rooted into her now it is impossible to do anything about it. This happened five years ago, Jane and her bf getting married soon. She called me yesterday and asked for some money as she is laid off. Actually she told me to honour promise I made to all my daughters(I helped them financially when they get married). I refused. I told her I made promise to my daughter and as she denounced me as her father I am no longer going to help her out. AITA ?

Edit: There is no way I was going to divorce my wife, we are together since last 25 years. As I said I called her out many times during past. She is not vocal like she was before but she still makes comments here and there which I think as a progress because 30 years ago when I met her, whole family were extremely racist and bigoted. That time I was blind by love so I overlook that but other than that we have no issues in our marriage. I am proud that my children's are not racist. No, I didnt contact her in last 5 years neither she did. I was extremely upset by ultimatum and she knew her mother's behaviour and as I said I made promise to my children's butt dont think I am her dad, she even called me Mr. Xyz not dad. Why I should help her if she is not interested in any relationship and thinks me as a moneybag only ?

Edit2: To answering another question. No I never made any attempt to amend our relationship. I can understand if she dont want her mother around her family. But what I did, even I am stranger to my own grandchildren's, I honestly have no idea what she told them. Now she celebrates father's day mother's day with her bf's family congratulate them on social media make comments like how happy she is to finally get real family who love her. It breaks my heart, if she clearly think I am not her father why come to me for financial help ?

Edit3: Well many racist changes because they wanted to, my wife after that incident never made any racist comment(at least in front of me) and also persuading me to help her out.

Edit4: She is laid off, and I guess he is still working. She told me that she will split money like 30% for small wedding ceremony and other 70% savings/ for uncertain future/paying bills etc.

empty sea
Jul 17, 2011

gonna saddle my seahorse and float out to the sunset
Imagine that the worst thing in your life is not getting to go to your school's big annual spring break trip to New York City and Washington D.C. I'm sure it was devastating at her age, but drat.

I'm just wondering why Linda called the wedding off with all her relatives there and the pressure of it all. I bet the husband cheated.

Pocky In My Pocket
Jan 27, 2005

Giant robots shouldn't fight!






MarcusSA posted:

Nah NTA.

Like it sucks that the wedding was called off and I get why the kid is angry but it wasn't out of malice that they stopped her from going. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable sending my "younger" kid on a trip while the whole family took another trip to the other side of the country.

Keeping the kid away from a once in a lifetime trip so they can sit around with people they've literally never met before is garbage.

Evil Willow
Apr 26, 2007
Bored now...
AITA for removing my sister from my wedding

quote:

My sister (36f) is on meth. I know I (27f) say it so nonchalant, but it is what it is. I’ve been dealing with her drug addiction since I was 12. She’s been on and off drugs for so long and when I got engaged, she was clean. Everything was great, she was participating in the planning of the bachelorette party and the bridal shower, she sounded like she was sober and excited, etc. Then out of no where she decided the dress I picked for everyone wouldn’t suit her. She wanted a completely different dress. I was annoyed by this but agreed. Then she decided she and her boyfriend should be staying in the same house as me and my fiancé the days leading up to the wedding. She said it was selfish of me to want the house we rented to ourselves. I said gently caress no you’re not staying with us and my mom has been bitching ever since (I just ignore her). The day of the shower comers and she doesn’t show up, she texted me three days later to say she fell off the wagon and she’s sorry but that I should understand and forgive her for not being able to attend. Fine, it’s my sister, I’m not going to cause a problem so I let it go. Well three weeks later and now it’s time for the bachelorette party. She has been MIA according to the other bridesmaids (she doesn’t answer any of my calls either) so I decided she’s not going to be in the wedding. She needs to work on getting better and this isn’t going to help her. Well after doing so my mom flipped her poo poo and told me that it’s wrong of me to exclude my sister. “She’s family and I need to have a bit of ‘grace’.” In my head this is a big what the gently caress no. She isn’t in a good spot and for once in my life I want something to be about me and not revolved around the family. I decided to go ahead and remove her from the wedding party despite the family objections. Needless to say everyone is pissed at me. Yeah she’s family but, AITA for kicking my sister out of the wedding?

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

Miss posted:

AITA for not allowing my daughter to go on an 8th grade school trip.

Once in a lifetime trip vs yet another wedding.

You are the rear end in a top hat dude.

No Pants
Dec 10, 2000

Miss posted:

AITA for not allowing my daughter to go on an 8th grade school trip.

sounds like op only has a few more years to make it up to her before becoming an estranged parent :sickos:

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

8one6 posted:

Once in a lifetime trip vs yet another wedding.

You are the rear end in a top hat dude.

Plus maybe once in a lifetime family reunion.

I really don’t think them having the family travel together is the wrong choice.

If they had said she couldn’t go for any other reason then absolutely but I’m not gonna call them TA for having the kid go with them for a wedding and family reunion.

Pocky In My Pocket
Jan 27, 2005

Giant robots shouldn't fight!






From the kids point of view theres no re to that union.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
From Mallory's pov she gets shown off like a trophy to a bunch of barely interested people she doesn't know and then shuffled off to the baby table.

Parents 100% hosed up, they broke an explicit promise to her and made it clear she is not a priority for them.

Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Aug 12, 2020

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Pocky In My Pocket posted:

From the kids point of view theres no re to that union.

From the kids point of view everyone is a huge rear end in a top hat and rightfully so but I don’t think the parents made the wrong choice.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Ghost Leviathan posted:

From Mallory's pov she gets shown off like a trophy to a bunch of barely interested people she doesn't know and then shuffled off to the baby table.

Yeah, this is exactly it. It’s why I have always hated family reunions. You get introduced to a bunch of old fucks that only care about you in the sense that they are glad you exist to carry on the name, and then you get shunted off to the side while the adults talk. Even worse, with that age gap you end up being expected to watch the little kids.

You don’t bring kids on those trips for the sake of the kid, you do it so great-grandpa can see them for 10 seconds and be satisfied that his family has another generation. gently caress that, let them have their unique once in a lifetime trip. They’re definitely the assholes.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

AITA for laughing at my mothers plans to have a baby?

quote:

My mother was never really motherly, more like a friend but she did what she could.

She had me at 18, I’m 28 now.

My husband and I recently had our house built like we’d been planning, right at the back of our garden is a cottage or a little guest home that we had been planning on letting my mother live in.

The thing is I’m due to give birth in around two months and I guess the pregnancy has kind of fogged up my mothers mind because she’s been insisting on how she wants a baby and how she’s done it once before.

I suppose she took some initiative and recently announced to me and our family that she’s pregnant! She told me she planned on turning the other room in our guest house, currently a study, into a babies room.

She offered to basically be a live in nanny to earn her own way even though I’ll be off for a while and never expressed any interest in that help.

I just burst out laughing because it’s so stupid and I’m not down for this; I’m already providing for her and I would not provide for another.

I told her to contact the babies father and tell him, either move in, get child support or give him the child or up for adoption and I think that’s plenty of choice- hell she could even get a job! (Although she hasn’t worked since I was 5)

She burst out crying and now I’ve been told by family that I could’ve waited, I turned something so happy into something so toxic and that I’m being unsupportive and could’ve planned something with my mother.

She’s offering to pay rent but that’s really not the problem; I feel disrespected and I just feel like she’s a child.

Cherry on top is that she’s planning on calling the baby Atlas...literally the name of my childhood dog.

So, AITA?

Sillybones
Aug 10, 2013

go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away

Grape posted:

lol at how adorably innocent goons continue to be about female sexuality.

No idea what this is meant to mean.


v Edit: I don't think I implied otherwise.

Sillybones fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Aug 12, 2020

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
(Women also consume porn)

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



MarcusSA posted:

Plus maybe once in a lifetime family reunion.

I really don’t think them having the family travel together is the wrong choice.

If they had said she couldn’t go for any other reason then absolutely but I’m not gonna call them TA for having the kid go with them for a wedding and family reunion.

hi i had an experience almost identical to that kid and i am here to tell you to go gently caress yourself and that the op is 100% the rear end in a top hat.

the loving horse poo poo romanticism about how important ~*~family~*~ is is an extremely toxic aspect of our society and forcing your kid to miss out on an awesome, once in a lifetime experience to hang out with a bunch of people they don't know well or at all and who they may very well not get along with is some hot fuckin garbage, always, in every single situation.

also her parents literally told her she could go on that trip two loving years before it was set to take place, she was psyched for it since the 6th goddamn grade. i am loving blown away that there exists anyone on earth who cannot see that the op is a gigantic loving rear end in a top hat.

DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Aug 12, 2020

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

hi i had an experience almost identical to that kid and i am here to tell you to go gently caress yourself and that the op is 100% the rear end in a top hat.

the loving horse poo poo romanticism about how important ~*~family~*~ is is an extremely toxic aspect of our society and forcing your kid to miss out on an awesome, once in a lifetime experience to hang out with a bunch of people they don't know well or at all and who they may very well not get along with is some hot fuckin garbage, always, in every single situation.

also her parents literally told her she could go on that trip two loving years before it was set to take place, she was psyched for it since the 6th goddamn grade. i am loving blown away that there exists anyone on earth who cannot see that the op is a gigantic loving rear end in a top hat.

Sorry you didn’t get to go to NY Mallory.

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

The best part is OP has basically parented herself into a corner. Her son is coming up soon for the same trip. If her son gets to go on the trip Mallory will resent her even more than she already does, and will likely resent her brother as well. If she doesn’t let her son go on the trip, he will resent both her and his sister for something that isn’t his fault.

As far as parenting gently caress ups go this is quite spectacular.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Lord Ludikrous posted:

The best part is OP has basically parented herself into a corner. Her son is coming up soon for the same trip. If her son gets to go on the trip Mallory will resent her even more than she already does, and will likely resent her brother as well. If she doesn’t let her son go on the trip, he will resent both her and his sister for something that isn’t his fault.

As far as parenting gently caress ups go this is quite spectacular.

the actual best part is that even if this wedding and reunion had taken place this would all still be true. absolutely nothing is more miserable than being at a wedding as a young teenager and then, later, a family reunion, with a bunch of people you don't know and potentially do not at all get along with, while knowing that your friends are having the time of their lives together somewhere else.

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

there’s no good reason to drag a teenager to a family reunion. if grandma’s third cousin is so interested, then send her a photo.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
A key thing people really shouldn't discount is that this trip was a promise made years in advance, with Mallory keeping up the conditions of good behaviour and good grades, broken without warning so she should be treated as a prop to be briefly waved for the vague amusement of some strangers who would probably not notice if it was a broom with a smiley face drawn on it. She's learned that she can't trust or rely on her parents, OR her family, no matter how hard she works to earn it.

Scaevolus
Apr 16, 2007

If great grandpa really wanted to interact with her he could call or write a letter or use any of the myriad technologies we have for relationship building at a distance.

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice
Dissenting opinion (with no other content because when I looked for something to copy and paste all I could find were banal stories, I don't know how you guys find the good stuff), my grandparents lived in another country and are long dead so all I know of them comes from some camcorder tapes and one international trip when I was a 13-year-old moody jerk who felt exactly the same as Mallory did. In hindsight I would gladly swap memories of the annual interstate sightseeing trip for a conversation with them, or even just remembering that visit better.

JonathonSpectre
Jul 23, 2003

I replaced the Shermatar and text with this because I don't wanna see racial slurs every time you post what the fuck

Soiled Meat
Yeah, that's one that will leave a mark.

40 years from now:

"But you promised us you wouldn't put us in a lovely nursing home and abandon us!"

"Sorry, I've got a trip to New York planned."

Mom and dad hosed up royally. But at least they bald-faced lied to their child and broke a years-old promise for absolutely nothing at all. I bet the kid is going to treasure all her precious memories of the family reunion, and all those strangers she met once.

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


Ghost Leviathan posted:

A key thing people really shouldn't discount is that this trip was a promise made years in advance, with Mallory keeping up the conditions of good behaviour and good grades, broken without warning so she should be treated as a prop to be briefly waved for the vague amusement of some strangers who would probably not notice if it was a broom with a smiley face drawn on it. She's learned that she can't trust or rely on her parents, OR her family, no matter how hard she works to earn it.

I get that goons will poo poo all over the entire concept of family. And having severed from most of my family because they're toxic shitheads, I understand the sentiment. But this is the real crux. The parent made a promise years before and then backed out on their end of the deal.

Soysaucebeast
Mar 4, 2008




Funky See Funky Do posted:

Aww poor baby. Everyone knows how to spell your name instantly? Don't have to spell it out every single time someone asks? My heart breaks for you.

I get hosed over both ways. My name is Sara and I was one of six in school. It was crazy. But now I work as a dispatcher and every time I call a vendor they ask me how to spell it because of the Sara/Sarah split. Granted it's not a huge deal, but it's not like it matters if they put the h on there. Just go with what your heart tells you, random vendor dude!

A Moose
Oct 22, 2009



Weddings are the worst poo poo, and she had an excuse to miss the wedding and her dumb parents decided she still had to go, that's pretty unforgivable. Family reunions are absolutely missable. Like if you never met most of those people and never will again, its just a waste of time. Otherwise there's always next family reunion.

I'm not saying that she should never get over this or anything, but I think it says a lot about their parenting style that they're not even sure they hosed up. Like the post should have been "I hosed up, I know, how do I fix it?"

Walton Simons
May 16, 2010

ELECTRONIC OLD MEN RUNNING THE WORLD
I read it as Mallory had to go to the wedding because it's in New Mexico and there would be nobody around within driving distance of New York should anything go wrong on spring break, rather than 'you have to come to see family'.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
Georgia: Law that requires access to drinking water in schools?

quote:

Is there a law in the state of GA that requires schools (including private schools) to provide access to drinking water during school hours?

Due to COVID, water fountains have been turned off at my children's school. My kindergartner finished her water bottle by 11am, which means she went through lunch and recess outside in the heat without water. When she asked her teacher how to refill her water bottle she was told that there are no options and she should just bring two water bottles tomorrow. When we picked her up she was crying, hot and very thirsty (arguably dehydrated). I called her teacher who confirmed what my kindergartner had relayed.

We obviously sent her with two water bottles today and have put in a request to talk to the principle about the new policy of no access to water (we want COVID safety too but there has to be a reasonable solution here).

When we talk to the principle, we would like to know if we can provide him with any laws stating that it is illegal not to provide children a source for drinking water during school hours?

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

teen witch posted:

Georgia: Law that requires access to drinking water in schools?

It's Principal.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
It's a class trip, there are chaperones and people to help if something goes wrong

Mallory is old enough, it should have been her choice. Mom hosed up by treating her like a younger child and making it for her. Another case of a parent's brain failing to grow up along with their kid.

Walton Simons
May 16, 2010

ELECTRONIC OLD MEN RUNNING THE WORLD
I agree, I just think that people who are going on about how family reunions and weddings aren't fun for teenagers are missing the point a bit, they aren't going because they think Mallory will enjoy it, they're going because they want to.

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hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

they're going because it's considered an obligation, much like everyone who has had to do dumb poo poo since the beginning of time

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