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Rick posted:I didn't love the Seinfeld ending at first but it has really grown on me over the years. The bit at the end where they start having a conversation from the first episode again is a nice touch. I think that mainly because, while it had a lot of cultural cache, Seinfeld came out before the echo chamber of the internet really amplified all feelings about everything. Everyone hates the ending for being anemic, Jerry has a mini meltdown about not beating MASH's numbers and then goes on SNL and films a digital short about it and everyone moves on. If it happened now it would be a terrible abortion that slapped every fan in the face.
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Holy poo poo, I just saw a commercial for New Mutants coming to theaters at the end of the month while watching Unsolved Mysteries on PlutoTV. What the gently caress? That can't be right.
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Byzantine posted:I was kinda disappointed in that, tbh. Most if not all "what if the south won" stuff is lazy and just has one absorb the other, a world where the South broke off and then there's two States of America jockeying for position during the 20th century has potential. So at the same time as Confederate, Aaron "The Boondocks" McGruder announced he had a deal with Amazon to make a similar, much more interesting show, which has also vanished into the void. It was "okay, the slaves get their own state, and so how does the history of the US shake out if the American people are loving with them and sabotaging things and they still survive to modern day, what does this become".
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Detective No. 27 posted:Holy poo poo, I just saw a commercial for New Mutants coming to theaters at the end of the month while watching Unsolved Mysteries on PlutoTV. What the gently caress? That can't be right. I saw that too. Very confusing. That's two Stark kids in mutant movies now.
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Aug 14, 2020 05:48
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Even the Harry Turtledove alt history series had the Confederacy become a seperate state to the Union iirc.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Even the Harry Turtledove alt history series had the Confederacy become a seperate state to the Union iirc. In Timeline-191, New Mutants is still delayed
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Rick posted:I didn't love the Seinfeld ending at first but it has really grown on me over the years. The bit at the end where they start having a conversation from the first episode again is a nice touch. I hated the Seinfeld ending because as much of a bunch of jerks as these people were, throwing them in prison for a year to get raped was way too cruel.
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Aug 14, 2020 05:52
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AccountSupervisor posted:Yeah hes one of those writers who just gets poo poo on so disproportionately its rediculous. Do go on! Please tell me what kind of amazing and influential work he's done.
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Aug 14, 2020 05:59
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Smirking_Serpent posted:I have to wonder about the 5 GOT prequels and if any of them will ever come out. I can't be the only one who has no interest in finding out about the first Dragon King or Stark or whoever when I know it all ends with such a whimper. None of the mysteries have any allure to me. I imagine they might, but I doubt any of them put two and two together and learned something from it. Any piece of serial media that involves lots of people to make it tends to become like this boxcar that everyone wants to stick more poo poo to until it just collapses under its own weight, just before the finish.
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Aug 14, 2020 06:01
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:In Timeline-191, New Mutants is still delayed In all timelines, the release of New Mutants is the inevitable endpoint. Realities that survive are the ones that realize this and delay it for as long as possible.
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Aug 14, 2020 07:30
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END ME SCOOB posted:So at the same time as Confederate, Aaron "The Boondocks" McGruder announced he had a deal with Amazon to make a similar, much more interesting show, which has also vanished into the void. It was "okay, the slaves get their own state, and so how does the history of the US shake out if the American people are loving with them and sabotaging things and they still survive to modern day, what does this become". I don't know if that's that much of an interesting premise, considering that "a country repeatedly undermined by US foreign policy, full of people the US is racist towards", already describes almost every other country in the Americas.
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Aug 14, 2020 07:38
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I think that was kind of the point, yeah. Although at this point I can't even say "a US territory but that" because Puerto Rico. Which might be why that faded into the night silently.
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The Klowner posted:Do go on! Please tell me what kind of amazing and influential work he's done. Lost is one of the most influential TV shows of all time and The Leftovers and Watchmen are what I would define as "amazing". Prometheus also owns. All of these have been talked about already so Im not sure what youre trying to bait from me.
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Aug 14, 2020 08:35
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Remember Heroes was supposed to be the new Lost, lol
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Aug 14, 2020 08:47
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The script for Prometheus is extremely well-written, and notably better than the earlier boring draft by Jon Spaiths. World War Z has questionable direction, but the third act - which is what Lindelof (re)wrote - is where the film finally gets interesting. This ending is likewise significantly better than the original ending. I don’t really watch TV, but everybody seems to like Lost, Leftovers, and Watchmen. So are folks basically just mad at Star Trek 2?
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Aug 14, 2020 08:48
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wwz's third act is the most boring poo poo imaginable even Lost guy usurping brad pitt in the original would have been more interesting
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Aug 14, 2020 09:15
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He is solidly mediocre
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Goons gotta goon, I guess.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Remember Heroes was supposed to be the new Lost, lol Remember how near on immediately they wrote themselves into a corner with various characters powers, had a writers strike, and then came back worse than before? Then rebooted the show years later and made basically all the exact same errors?
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Aug 14, 2020 11:10
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Remember Heroes was supposed to be the new Lost, lol I think Heroes started airing too early for it to be the new Lost. FlashForward on the other hand definitely tried... for one season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XVeYwHJJq8 Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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Aug 14, 2020 11:15
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Heroes was super popular when it first aired. Then it continued and just started sucking more and more and more and somehow, more
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Aug 14, 2020 11:20
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Mierenneuker posted:I think Heroes started airing too early for it to be the new Lost. FlashForward on the other hand definitely tried... for one season. Yeah, Flash Forward was fun but in an extremely "Throw all the plot points out there, we will resolve them around season 7" kind of way.
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Aug 14, 2020 11:27
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Barudak posted:How I Met Your Mother is absolutely a terrible finale and was the go to alongside Dexter after lost but before GoT. GoT just managed to poo poo the bed even harder, doing it over two seasons and in front if a global audience, that its all the more impressive. I could tell Lost was gonna be trash after the 1st season's season finale, same with the Walking Dead. An aimless show that subsists on feeding its audience a supposed satisfying ending is pretty easy to spot. Just imagine its writers trying to bs their way into their show being substantive. Uh...yeah...the point of the season...was to find...a tunnel...yeah that's it. Reminds me of Patton Oswalt talking about why he gave up on Lost. When they started r3surrecting characters in a lazarus pit or something (something like that I had long stopped watching). He said he, as a writer, he just imagined the Lost writers just wanting to go home and making some poo poo up on the fly. Made all the howls about how bad the ending was pretty satisfying. Lol what a timewaster.
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Aug 14, 2020 11:30
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The lazarus pits were in the last season, though.
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Fartbox posted:Heroes was super popular when it first aired. Then it continued and just started sucking more and more and more and somehow, more Heroes was mega poplar when it first started airing. To the point that I decided to binge the first 20 or whatever episodes leading up to the season finale. The season 1 finale really sucked. It tied up some plot threads in a somewhat satisfying way, but the major battle they had been building towards the entire season happens as flashing colors off-screen. I remember seeing so many social media posts and articles about how disappointing it was. Then the writer's strike happened, and the few fans that stuck with it got treated to a bunch of plot lines and characters in a short season 2 that ultimately didn't matter, or in some cases got retconned in season 3. It was a mess.
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Btw an article on the fantastic talent behind the camera on the leftovers https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiewire.com/2017/05/the-leftovers-directors-mimi-leder-craig-zobel-1201834043/amp/
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Grendels Dad posted:The lazarus pits were in the last season, though. Okay just going by what he saud.
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Lost was fine and you don't get internet cred just for saying a show you didn't watch was trash
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All I remember about Heroes was season 1. And then that reboot with Henry Zebrowski.
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Len posted:Lost was fine and you don't get internet cred just for saying a show you didn't watch was trash i loving earned them creds with years of important posts buddy
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Gonz posted:All I remember about Heroes was season 1. Henry noooooooooooooooooooooo Didn't know he was involved in that travesty 
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You know what? I'm kinda glad I worked weird 2nd and 3rd shifts from 2003-2006, I missed out on getting into shows like HIMYM, Lost, and Battlestar Galactica. I know I saw the pilot movie, and the final episode of Battlestar (my girlfriend at the time was watching it without telling me). HIMYM was in syndication for a while, so I would catch an episode here or there after work in the last decade, but it never gripped me enough to go back and watch. I think I've only ever seen one episode of the final season of Lost, and that was while I was drinking at a bar, it may have been the finale,  Of course by the time all these shows were wrapping up, TV had created bigger and better shows to pay attention to 
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Aug 14, 2020 12:29
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I'd say that BSG is still worth watching as long you quit midway thru the 3rd season. It prob has one of the best "pilots" (aka the episode after the miniseries, 33 seconds) ever.
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Aug 14, 2020 12:40
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The whole Orgalorg five-parter of Adventure Time felt like the cartoon version of a disappointing prestige TV finale, totally killed my interest in the show. Supposedly it got better after, but.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The script for Prometheus is extremely well-written, and notably better than the earlier boring draft by Jon Spaiths. It's nice to have confirmation I was correct.
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END ME SCOOB posted:So at the same time as Confederate, Aaron "The Boondocks" McGruder announced he had a deal with Amazon to make a similar, much more interesting show, which has also vanished into the void. It was "okay, the slaves get their own state, and so how does the history of the US shake out if the American people are loving with them and sabotaging things and they still survive to modern day, what does this become". Speaking of The Boondocks, man the last season was rough.
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If the Confederacy had survived it would've been a basket case equivalent of a third world country and I have a feeling D&D - known for their great ability to handle large political storytelling without someone else having pre-written it - would've handled it very well.
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Groovelord Neato posted:If the Confederacy had survived it would've been a basket case equivalent of a third world country and I have a feeling D&D - known for their great ability to handle large political storytelling without someone else having pre-written it - would've handled it very well. ...OK, show of hands. Who else thought for a split second this was referring to the subforum? (Also, why did "D&D" catch on? Pretty much everywhere else I see them referred to as "Benioff and Weiss". Wouldn't "B&W" make more sense?)
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Yep, same. Then I thought they were might be talking about Dungeons and Dragons. Somehow the post still made sense to me in those contexts as well.
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You call me a murder hobo well I call myself a runaway slave
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