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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

VomitOnLino posted:

The only Basilisk worth talking about is "Langford's Basilisk":


loving Musk Basilisk, Musk Ox, Musk Box - Trash

i reprogrammed my brain using Java try and crr jmkiocjmiocgr

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Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 235 days!
as much as I liked the story that image is part of, your brain overloading and crashing is called a seizure and it turns out it generally reboots, albeit with potential for damage from the more dramatic variety (the less dramatic looks mostly like the afflicted party has just zoned out to an observer).

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

VomitOnLino posted:

The only Basilisk worth talking about is "Langford's Basilisk":


loving Musk Basilisk, Musk Ox, Musk Box - Trash

technically these exist, but only for people with photosensitive epilepsy

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

VomitOnLino posted:

The only Basilisk worth talking about is "Langford's Basilisk":


loving Musk Basilisk, Musk Ox, Musk Box - Trash

the scp isn't cyberpunk

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Splicer posted:

Well gently caress

lmao

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




VomitOnLino posted:

The only Basilisk worth talking about is "Langford's Basilisk":


loving Musk Basilisk, Musk Ox, Musk Box - Trash

:hai: this concept rules

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Hodgepodge posted:

as much as I liked the story that image is part of, your brain overloading and crashing is called a seizure and it turns out it generally reboots, albeit with potential for damage from the more dramatic variety (the less dramatic looks mostly like the afflicted party has just zoned out to an observer).

Seizures are no fun even if you know to expect one, there's very few things more terrifying than waking up with no memory of what happened with a bunch of concerned people surrounding you and spending the next twenty or so minutes spending actual effort just on reconstructing the basic facts of reality occurring around you. Figuring out that you actually recognize people and faces, familiar places, your room or your cubicle, or the office across the way. It's difficult to fully articulate the disjunction that occurs just because it's so cognitively comprehensive in scope. You may have spent half of the last four years of your life in a familiar place that borders on inanity but the second you wake up it's not just unfamiliar, it's terrifying.

Like I could go on but there no sort of existential terror ironically that could ever possibly compare to the first few postictal seconds when you come back to reality

Honestly I think this is a perfect metaphor

HiroProtagonist has issued a correction as of 06:44 on Aug 21, 2020

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Coolness Averted posted:

the scp isn't cyberpunk

Please, this probably predates the scp by a good decade.

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

HiroProtagonist posted:

Seizures are no fun even if you know to expect one, there's very few things more terrifying than waking up with no memory of what happened with a bunch of concerned people surrounding you and spending the next twenty or so minutes spending actual effort just on reconstructing the basic facts of reality occurring around you

Like I could go on but there no sort of existential terror ironically that could ever possibly compare to the first few postictal seconds when you come back to reality

Honestly I think this is a perfect metaphor

I've spoken with someone who had seizures in the past and the closest we could get comparing notes, so to speak (I don't have seizures, thank gently caress!) was when I had extremely high fever and reality sort of disintegrated and I turned into a drooling, utterly terrified version of myself surrounded by oddly familiar, yet completely alien shapes that made no sense. People were talking constantly but it was gibberish, which sounded like they were plotting something behind my back, except that I had no concept of the concept of "plotting behind someones back". Wild poo poo.

-8/10 would not fever again

VomitOnLino has issued a correction as of 06:45 on Aug 21, 2020

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




VomitOnLino posted:

Please, this probably predates the scp by a good decade.

lol a lot longer than that, BLIT was published in 1988

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

VomitOnLino posted:

I've spoken with someone who had seizures in the past and the closest we could get comparing notes, so to speak (I don't have seizures, thank gently caress!) was basically when I had extremely high fever and reality just basically disintegrated while I turned into a drooling, utterly terrified version of myself surrounded by oddly familiar, yet completely alien shapes that made no sense and people talking constant gibberish which kinda sorta sounded like they were plotting something behind my back, except that I had no concept of the concept of "plotting behind someones back". Wild poo poo.

-8/10 would not fever again

You posted while I was in the middle of editing to add poo poo to make it clear that yes this is definitely the worst loving time in your life whatever it may have been for at least a good thirty seconds and man I'm glad someone else knows too

E: that's sort of exactly the feeling but subtracting the physical aspect of just feeling unwell, there's something about being physically ill that kinda sorta grounds you in reality to some kind of degree so yeah, imagine that but you come to seeing and feeling all of that, aphasic and everything but you don't even remember being ill and that's the terror I was trying to communicate

HiroProtagonist has issued a correction as of 06:53 on Aug 21, 2020

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
I HAVE NO MOUTH BUT I MUST SCREAM

there we go, that's what I was looking for

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

lmao, that Netflix show about sexualising children is getting attention.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Chard posted:

lol a lot longer than that, BLIT was published in 1988

Yeah it's actually really cool that when I googled Langsford's Basilisk, I wasn't familiar with the original author's work, but had read or played a bunch of stuff that had lifted the concepts, or as homage used similar names or oblique references that I didn't get at the time.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

HiroProtagonist posted:

Like I could go on but there no sort of existential terror ironically that could ever possibly compare to the first few postictal seconds when you come back to reality

You forgot where you are.

There's always more and it's always worse.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse
You have no idea where you are, where you were, what happened...

... and then you recover, only to have it slowly dawn on you that you *didn't*, that your brain is feebly grasping at straws trying to make it SEEM like it's all normal. Then the experience recurs a few times a month for years. Then you notice you remember things that never happened... and don't remember things that did. Until you finally accept the truth.

And the rehab sucks rear end too.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
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endlessmonotony posted:

You have no idea where you are, where you were, what happened...

... and then you recover, only to have it slowly dawn on you that you *didn't*, that your brain is feebly grasping at straws trying to make it SEEM like it's all normal. Then the experience recurs a few times a month for years. Then you notice you remember things that never happened... and don't remember things that did. Until you finally accept the truth.

And the rehab sucks rear end too.

benzos?

because the part about those that scares me from reading the experiences of goons and others with those is the knowledge that there was effectively a person who went around wearing "you" for up to years at a time and you remember little to nothing about what they did. oh and they had no inhibitions to speak of.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse
Well there were certainly a lot of benzos involved.

But no, brain damage. That's... just the smallest fragment of... what I remember from the time between when I first got my head cracked open to when they finally achieved a "stable" configuration so the brain stopped constantly shifting.

Four years and change, that period.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

VomitOnLino posted:

The only Basilisk worth talking about is "Langford's Basilisk":


loving Musk Basilisk, Musk Ox, Musk Box - Trash

this sounds like that plan to kill the collective from the TNG episode where they rescue Huge the Borg

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Rutibex posted:

this sounds like that plan to kill the collective from the TNG episode where they rescue Huge the Borg

Just about to post the same thing, yeah

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/1296769084974141441



FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE IT STOP

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
communities became fandoms, fandoms have now just become Brand Loyalty.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
If you are reading this, you have been in a coma for almost twenty years.

We are trying a new technique. We do not know where this message will end up in your dream, but we hope it gets through.

Please wake up.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
beam me in a furry goth gf or hang the gently caress up, doc

mystes
May 31, 2006

Platystemon posted:

If you are reading this, you have been in a coma for almost twenty years.

We are trying a new technique. We do not know where this message will end up in your dream, but we hope it gets through.

Please wake up.
This post except it's just the entire text of Ubik.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Platystemon posted:

If you are reading this, you have been in a coma for almost twenty years.

We are trying a new technique. We do not know where this message will end up in your dream, but we hope it gets through.

Please wake up.
I am focusing very, very hard on raising my arm and middle finger

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Inceltown posted:

lmao, that Netflix show about sexualising children is getting attention.



I forgot how much the chans are into cp. it puts the qanon obsession with finding and destroying the pedophile cabals they’ve made up in their head into a different light. It’s sort of the same way conservative guys that are closeted get real nuts with homosexual agenda fantasies; they’re just paranoid someone out there is having the good time they want to have, and would like to prosecute these theoretical entities to the fullest.

Except they’re also driving middle aged and elderly people insane and getting into public office, which is just... lol, I guess. Let’s go with lol for now. I’ve only been up for an hour.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Cuties sexualises minors ~ironically~.

4chan has spent man‐millennia being racist ironically.

It is ironic that they don’t see eye‐to‐eye with the producers.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Platystemon posted:

Cuties sexualises minors ~ironically~.

I don’t think Cuties is doing anything ironically.

quote:


Cineuropa: How was the idea for Cuties born?
Maïmouna Doucouré : The day I saw, at a neighbourhood party, a group of young girls aged around 11 years old, going up on stage and dancing in a very sensual way while wearing very revealing clothes. I was rather shocked and I wondered if they were aware of the image of sexual availability that they were projecting. In the audience, there were also more traditional mothers, some of them wearing veils: it was a real culture shock. I was stunned and I thought back to my own childhood, because I’ve often asked myself questions about my own femininity, about evolving between two cultures, about my Senegalese culture which comes from my parents and my western culture. But I needed the 2020 version of that youth, so for a year and a half, I stopped groups of young girls in the street, sometimes in schools or when organisations opened their doors to me. I recorded them or filmed them when I had their parents’ authorisation, and I gathered their stories to find out where they situated themselves as children, as girls, as future women; how they placed themselves in society with their girlfriends, their families, at school, with social networks. All these stories fed into the writing of Cuties.

The film is very careful not to judge the characters.
Yes, because this isn’t a health & safety ad. This is most of all an uncompromising portrait of an 11-year-old girl plunged in a world that imposes a series of dictates on her. It was very important not to judge these girls, but most of all to understand them, to listen to them, to give them a voice, to take into account the complexity of what they’re living through in society, and all of that in parallel with their childhood which is always there, their imaginary, their innocence.

You denounce the impact of social media at that age.
During my research, I saw that all these young girls I’d met were very exposed on social media. And with new social codes, the ways of presenting yourself change. I saw that some very young girls were followed by 400,000 people on social media and I tried to understand why. There were no particular reasons, besides the fact that they had posted sexy or at least revealing pictures: that is what had brought them this “fame.” Today, the sexier and the more objectified a woman is, the more value she has in the eyes of social media. And when you’re 11, you don’t really understand all these mechanisms, but you tend to mimic, to do the same thing as others in order to get a similar result. I think it is urgent that we talk about it, that a debate be had on the subject.

When you received your award in Sundance, you delivered a very powerful speech on the place of women and of diversity in cinema.
It has to be talked about. We know that there is a problem, and it isn’t by hiding from it that it will go away. We need more models, in higher positions. Seeing a woman president, female astronauts, female engineers: these models are indispensable for the construction of little girls, essential to open their imagination. In that regard, I think cinema has an important role to play. However, I’ve never felt more French than when I was in the United States. In that country, I’m just a French director. Of course, the question of the place of women is discussed, but the notion of diversity isn’t particularly brought up to me. But in France, I have the feeling that there are sci-fi films, dramas, comedies, etc., and another genre: the “diversity genre”. We must talk about it today so that things change, but we will only truly be happy and we will only stop fighting once this “diversity genre” has disappeared. Because, for example, no one wants to be selected at a film festival out of positive discrimination. Whether you’re a woman or issued from diversity, what matters is that your work is fully recognised artistically, for what it is and not for what you represent.

I have no idea how lurid it is because I haven’t seen it, but if that snippet is honest irony would be the furthest thing from the directors mind. For all I know she may have misstepped in the way she presents the subject matter- and from what I’ve read Netflix definitely misstepped with the creepy advertising- but it looks like a sincere examination of a difficult subject.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

can't wait for netflix to file come and see as an action movie

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
Regardless of how well-intentioned it is I'm worried that it's going to fall into the whole "there's no such thing as an anti-war film" situation and it's just going to further normalize it by having it on screen.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

christmas boots posted:

Regardless of how well-intentioned it is I'm worried that it's going to fall into the whole "there's no such thing as an anti-war film" situation and it's just going to further normalize it by having it on screen.

You say that, but I worked in videostore in a chud county when jarhead came out, and everyone who rented it was PISSED.
So I guess the real way to make an antiwar movie is to advertise it as bad rear end and cool, but then just make it about how banal the majority of being in the military as a grunt is.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Inceltown posted:

lmao, that Netflix show about sexualising children is getting attention.



someone please summarize wtf this is about, i dont want google to put me on their child porn list

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Coolness Averted posted:

You say that, but I worked in videostore in a chud county when jarhead came out, and everyone who rented it was PISSED.
So I guess the real way to make an antiwar movie is to advertise it as bad rear end and cool, but then just make it about how banal the majority of being in the military as a grunt is.

You can tell war movie fans hated Jarhead because the direct-to-video sequels are just action movies

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Carthag Tuek posted:

someone please summarize wtf this is about, i dont want google to put me on their child porn list

Mysterious Frankie just posted the director justifying it.
It's about preteens putting on sexy outfits and competing in dance tournaments with highly sexualized routines. The marketing tact has been sensational.
Imagine if Making a Murderer had been advertised as "Two ultimate badasses show down. One: A rapist and murderer who has outsmarted the law, Two: the corrupt cops who will do anything to put the murderer and his mentally handicapped nephew in jail forever. No matter who wins, it'll loving rule, and we'llhave plenty of sequences you can jerk off to!"

Literally Esoteric
Jun 13, 2012

One final, furious struggle...then a howl of victory

Carthag Tuek posted:

someone please summarize wtf this is about, i dont want google to put me on their child porn list

Haven't seen it, but: https://www.indiewire.com/2020/08/netflix-apologizes-cuties-marketing-sexualizing-children-1234581341/

A french director made a movie about how young girls are pushed to mimic the sexual signals that our society expects of grown women, and she did it in a way that's intended to not judge the girls.
Netflix in the USA then advertised her movie by creating posters of the girls in suggestive poses like Charlie's Angels etc.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

vyelkin posted:

You can tell war movie fans hated Jarhead because the direct-to-video sequels are just action movies

Yeah, tbh it was kinda brilliant to market a film adaptation of a dude's story of being duped by the war machine and really having no idea how he fits into the narrative of heroics as 'American Sniper.'
Except of course that wasn't done for altruistic reasons, they just knew the latter sold better. They did it all the time with weirder or more niche movies, back when those were actually made and pushed by the studios.
Like I remember trailers for Punch Drunk Love that absolutely tried to make it look like a whacky Adam Sandler movie.

Coolness Averted has issued a correction as of 18:39 on Aug 21, 2020

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Tiler Kiwi posted:

beam me in a furry goth gf or hang the gently caress up, doc

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Coolness Averted posted:

Mysterious Frankie just posted the director justifying it.
It's about preteens putting on sexy outfits and competing in dance tournaments with highly sexualized routines. The marketing tact has been sensational.
Imagine if Making a Murderer had been advertised as "Two ultimate badasses show down. One: A rapist and murderer who has outsmarted the law, Two: the corrupt cops who will do anything to put the murderer and his mentally handicapped nephew in jail forever. No matter who wins, it'll loving rule, and we'llhave plenty of sequences you can jerk off to!"


Literally Esoteric posted:

Haven't seen it, but: https://www.indiewire.com/2020/08/netflix-apologizes-cuties-marketing-sexualizing-children-1234581341/

A french director made a movie about how young girls are pushed to mimic the sexual signals that our society expects of grown women, and she did it in a way that's intended to not judge the girls.
Netflix in the USA then advertised her movie by creating posters of the girls in suggestive poses like Charlie's Angels etc.


thanks. thats hosed up.

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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



i guess this kinda ties into the cuties thing

Coolness Averted posted:

Yeah, tbh it was kinda brilliant to market a film adaptation of a dude's story of being duped by the war machine and really having no idea how he fits into the narrative of heroics as 'American Sniper.'
Except of course that wasn't done for altruistic reasons, they just knew the latter sold better. They did it all the time with weirder or more niche movies, back when those were actually made and pushed by the studios.
Like I remember trailers for Punch Drunk Love that absolutely tried to make it look like a whacky Adam Sandler movie.

trailers & marketing in general is completely disconnected from the actual show/movie (and tbf from any product ever). theyre there to put asses in seats, and if that means misrepresenting or spoiling the story, theyll do it. the vast majority are made by entirely different people & companies than whoever made the actual film. see also movie posters & rental covers back when those existed. any movie can be sold as anything.

Batman: he fights for family and lives for love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSe6tvfedb0

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