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Vichan posted:That guy is unlistenable-ah. Okay this is weird. I watched that video earlier today and was totally fine with his voice. Now that I read your post I feel like I can barely understand him.
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Bettik posted:One limitation these videos all seem to have is no inheritance - it’s all the scope of a single character. Rimmy's video jumed around a lot over the course of 150 years give or take. He just didn't focus on succession and inheritance while he was trying to establish his anime sex cult.
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Has there been any word on whether Zunism is still in? I'm going to miss the 700s start just for the ability to start as a feudal pagan and then marry my daughter/mother/grandmother/granddaughter at the same time.
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Servetus posted:Rimmy's video jumed around a lot over the course of 150 years give or take. He just didn't focus on succession and inheritance while he was trying to establish his anime sex cult. Yeah he definitely went through multiple rulers, his first one died at around the 8 minute mark it looks like.
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ElectronicOldMen posted:Has there been any word on whether Zunism is still in? you could always make it yourself if it isn't, but it probably is
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ElectronicOldMen posted:Has there been any word on whether Zunism is still in? incest porn has definitely gone mainstream
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Node posted:incest porn has definitely gone mainstream If marrying my entire extended family is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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ElectronicOldMen posted:If marrying my entire extended family is wrong, I don't want to be right. Habsburger.txt
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ilitarist posted:I'm really looking for casual chill potential of CK3. Dawn of Man is my go to chill game these days. Watching your little stone age people fish and hunt deers is pretty relaxing. If that's still too complex then UnderMine is a pretty great zelda style rogue-lite.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Dawn of Man is my go to chill game these days. Watching your little stone age people fish and hunt deers is pretty relaxing. If that's still too complex then UnderMine is a pretty great zelda style rogue-lite. That’s a good one. I’m staying in the first age until I get 1,000 of all of the available animals and tools/resources, then going to the next one (I’ve played most of it on hardcore so this is the chill version). Getting 20 mammoths or rhinos in a session is a good feeling and you can listen to podcasts or ambient music while you play.
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PittTheElder posted:More importantly, why aren't we all buying Game Pass and playing Plebby Quest??
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Pyromancer posted:I've heard tales of this mythical "Game Pass", but looking where people say it is only finds "We are sorry, the page you requested cannot be found." as soon as I reveal where I'm from. Some foul sorcery is afoot, I'm sure. Try installing the Xbox app from the Windows apps store
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Pyromancer posted:I've heard tales of this mythical "Game Pass", but looking where people say it is only finds "We are sorry, the page you requested cannot be found." as soon as I reveal where I'm from. Some foul sorcery is afoot, I'm sure. It isn't really worth it in my opinion, but you can get around that by: - changing the Microsoft Store region to US - buying Xbox $10 digital codes off US Amazon, which you can do with any international card so long as the shipping address is in the US. - redeem your code on the Xbox app and claim the $1 trial offer for however long it's there for
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It hurts how hyped I am for this. None of the cautious optimism of Imperator, or cynicism of Stellaris. Pure unadulterated longing, free of doubts.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:It hurts how hyped I am for this.  But I think there's cause for optimism. The streamers are forbidden from releasing their reviews, but they're snatching in bits here and there. One of them put a something like "this is advertisement, Paradox paid me to do this... I don't know why, I would have paid them" at the start of his video, OPB posted an image of him already having 201 hours played time for CK3 on twitter, etc. There's also the guy who recently mostly uploaded vids being disappointed in Imperator: Rome to his youtube, with the last one being "Goodbye Imperator", and he mentions that he will switch focus to CK3 instead. I think the streamers have a pretty positive impression of the game. But we'll see in four days, when the review embargo drops. It's too late for me, I already pre-ordered. I don't even know what the pre-order bonus is, I'm too hyped to care for that. I like that they are introducing compelling choices in many areas. One is the dynasty management. I think Coolguye had a good post about it in the CK2 thread: There was basically never a downside to land every dynasty member if you could, except if you played as a Muslim. Dynasty member vassals like you more by default than non-dynasty vassals (except if you're using elective monarchy), so that's a plus. It's also less common to get a game over on succession if your whole realm is governed by family members. And it's easier to get back the top title if you get overthrown if they are also of your dynasty, since they will nearly always accept marriage proposals, since you're of the same dynasty. So marry your daughter to the usurper's eldest son, and make sure your daughter is your heir, and your grandchild will reunite the titles. It also really helps with dynasty prestige. The more family members are landed, the faster dynasty prestige grows. This not only lets each of your children start with a hefty prestige bonus from birth, giving a big general opinion bonus, but high dynasty prestige makes the AI more willing to enter into marriages, which makes it easier to get claims or titles into your family through playing the marriage game. In CK3 however, the devs tweaked the system a bit. Dynasty prestige is replaced with dynasty renown, and you only get renown for each landed family member who's not the direct or indirect vassal of another family member. That means replacing your vassals with family members will be quite a bit less useful. You still get somewhat easier realm management, especially if you invest into the family patriarch/matriarch lifestyle tree, but you will no longer accumulate massive dynasty prestige. This makes it more worthwhile to land your family members on foreign thrones. Which brings us to the fact that renown is a spendable resource, unlike prestige (mostly) in CK2. You spend renown to unlock family legacies, i.e. the traits that benefit all family members. Like dynasty youth's having a higher chance to grow up with a good education trait, other houses being more willing to marry your family members, or good inheritable traits having a higher chance to be passed on, etc. I'm very curious to find out how fast renown accumulates, and how easy it is to get every dynasty legacy. Because I've seen the common assumption that the "get every family legacy" achievement will be something you get naturally by playing the game, yet I'm not so sure. Depending on the rate of renown gain, you might not be able to get all the legacies if you're only playing like a king from 1066 till 1453, without making any effort to spread your dynasty around. Or you get plenty of dynasty renown naturally, and regularly have all legacies unlocked after 300 years. But that would kinda take away the "making each dynasty unique through having different legacies" design goal, so I wouldn't be surprised if Paradox are a bit stingy with renown. And if renown is not plentiful, the fact that it's also used for dynasty actions will probably make the system rather compelling. If you have to spread your dynasty to have good renown growth, this will make it that much more tempting to spend renown to force your family members in line. Is your cousin, the duke of Barcelona, waging war against his uncle, the king of Aragon, while their realm is invaded by Muslims? Spend renown to force them into a white peace, to better fight off the infidels. After all, if the Muslims holy war the kingdom of Aragon to death, your Christian relatives will be replaced with proper Muslim vassals, making them cease to generate renown. Or perhaps there's a chance to get a title you long wanted by disinheriting a key family member? Or do you want to split up a relative's realm by legitimizing one of his bastards? Or do you want to force an alliance with a powerful dynast by forcing them to have his daughter marry your son? You can do all that, but these actions cost precious renown. I hope Paradox is not overly generous with renown. A scarce resource makes it much more likely to face difficult decisions, and easy to unlock legacies would make the dynasties less unique from one another, as opposed to a state where a family that focused on the stewardship path plays differently from one that went down the martial legacies path. And watching the streams and videos, there are so many moment where I'm just thinking "this is good!". Like the change that when you generate vassals (like you did for baronies when you won a holy war in CK2), it doesn't just magically make them appear, it instead gives the title to one of the courtiers in the general area. Those of course can belong to families that you don't want to see getting more titles, or they might have left your court after you insulted them, etc. Or they might have a useful claim that you perhaps want to press. This is such a great change, and even if the player can play around this by appointing new majors and barons by hand, the AI will use this new system and it will probably lead to some hilarious situations. Also, I saw that court physicians are in this game, too, ready to chop off your balls to cure a common cold once again.  I'm very optimistic about CK3.
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Torrannor posted:But I think there's cause for optimism. The streamers are forbidden from releasing their reviews, but they're snatching in bits here and there. Streamers I've watched were happy with Imperator Rome. Florryworry called it the only game that is close to EU4 in terms of goodness,
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ilitarist posted:I'm really looking for casual chill potential of CK3. Same, I'm probably going to pick a country in the rear end-end of nowhere (Ireland, Burma) and just try to build tall while the world evolves around me.
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I wasn't going to pre-order this, but the dev diaries eventually hyped me up so much that I caved in and bought it, and booked one of my vacation weeks for next week. Preparing to lose my ability to feel human.
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ilitarist posted:Streamers I've watched were happy with Imperator Rome. Florryworry called it the only game that is close to EU4 in terms of goodness, I didn't know that, thank you. I didn't follow Imperator: Rome at all. But we can all test how good the game is in less than a week 
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It hurts how hyped I am for you all to play the game. No game is perfect, but this is without a doubt the best PDS release I've worked on (and no the bar isn't low!! Some of Stellaris is good!!!).
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Torrannor posted:I didn't know that, thank you. I didn't follow Imperator: Rome at all. But we can all test how good the game is in less than a week I'm not trying to say CK3 doesn't look great. It does. I'm hyped. It's just that pre-release streamers are not a great indicator of the quality.
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I fell to the hype and pre-ordered it. No matter how it turns out, it's already clear that this game will be the perfect platform to develop great mods while having crazy incest with your cousin
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LordMune posted:It hurts how hyped I am for you all to play the game. Don't let the constant bitching in the Stellaris thread get you down, game is good. If it sucked the thread would be dead and nobody would care enough to complain. Replace the AI with Starnet when you get a minute, though
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RattiRatto posted:I fell to the hype and pre-ordered it. No matter how it turns out, it's already clear that this game will be the perfect platform to develop great mods while having crazy incest with your cousin This. I never got good at CK2 at all, but I was perfectly happy to spend dozens of hours with mods and console commands. I have no reason to think CK3 isn't going to be excellent, but even if it turns out not to be, what's that going to look like? The game is badly balanced and too hard? Oh, no, I'll have to use console commands again...
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LordMune posted:It hurts how hyped I am for you all to play the game. Stellaris had a rocky start but I loved it at launch and now, so don't take it as a condemnation!
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LordMune posted:It hurts how hyped I am for you all to play the game. People complain(ed) about Stellaris, but not until after they dumped 60 hours into it. It's objectively not a bad game, and never was. It's just been hurt because people expected it to having the staying power of CK, EU, or even HOI... but without the twenty years of iteration on the formula the other games had. Making a game be fun for hundreds of hours is super hard, and even when you're starting from a template (PDX grand strategy) that doesn't mean there won't be edges that need smoothing.
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The thing about Stellaris was that they were making a game they didn't have a lot of experience with. The things that make a symmetric game like Stellaris good aren't always the same as what makes an historic asymmetric game like CK or EU good - it was understandable that it would take some refinement. CK3 on the other hand... it's home territory. Paradox knows exactly how to make a game like this good, and with their new UI they're knocking it out of the park. I am so hyped. Chalks fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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disaster pastor posted:This. I never got good at CK2 at all, but I was perfectly happy to spend dozens of hours with mods and console commands. I have no reason to think CK3 isn't going to be excellent, but even if it turns out not to be, what's that going to look like? The game is badly balanced and too hard? Oh, no, I'll have to use console commands again... I've played Paradox games since EU1 and CK2 was probably the only game I'm genuinely good at. But that might also be because unlike other Grand Strategy games I never got 'burnt out' on it until well over 1500 hours of playtime.
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LordMune posted:It hurts how hyped I am for you all to play the game. Given the amount of hype I'm suffering here, if this game proves to be around 1% as good as I hope (which is around as good as I find CK2), I might want to forcefully marry you for your work.  With all these details and dev diaries and me spending way too much time just reading about the game, I am really, really confident you guys did amazing.
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I get people are wary after Imperator but even in the worst case, CK3 might just be "as good as" CK2. The religion and scheme systems are so much better than what was in CK2 anyways so, I'm pretty hyped!
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After the amount of time I spent in CK2 the past two years, and having recently built a rig that can actually play CK3 to it's fullest, my hype levels are overwhelming. Reading about it being more rpg-like than CK2 is so far up my alley, I love constructing my narrative and I'm seeing that I'm getting everything I want. My modlist and DLC have been integrated into the base game.
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When the last Imperator update came out, I noticed the developers of the Bronze Age mod (very big and detailed total conversion mod and #3 most subscribed in the workshop) said they weren't going to update it for Imperator anymore, they were converting the mod to CK3. Based off that alone I would bet Paradox gave them CK3 beta access and they must have really liked what they saw. That's an awful lot of work to convert a mod that size, and you don't make decisions like that without knowing exactly what you're getting yourself into.
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Are all french people as cringey as Rod from the dev youtube videos?
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:Are all french people as cringey as Rod from the dev youtube videos? The french are only second in cringiness to the eel-devouring snaggle toothed goblins across the channel. Something about being a dying imperialist empire makes your people suck to look at and hear. e: it's why the Irish are the only tolerable English-speaking people to listen to. Zedhe Khoja fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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You can tell it's not their main job but I think they do fine.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:The french are only second in cringiness to the eel-devouring snaggle toothed goblins across the channel. Something about being a dying imperialist empire makes your people suck to look at and hear. Having watched most of the early previews from the CK3 youtubers, I can confirm that this must certainly be true. Almost all of them were British cringelords who went full LARP mode wearing crowns and fur mantles and poo poo, and half of them affect an accent that is so insufferably posh that I can only assume they are doing it on purpose to sound as inbred as their ingame character. It says a lot that the best CK3 youtuber is apparently a guy called "One Proud Bavarian", which is... a distracting name to say the least. Like I spent his whole preview video wondering if he was about to say some horrendous nationalist poo poo, and how much I should be reading into him invading Poland, and it still ended up being a way better viewing experience than any of the other clowns.
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Yeah drat paradox for sending review copies out to regular passionate nerds, and not just professional speakers and marketers.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Yeah drat paradox for sending review copies out to regular passionate nerds, and not just professional speakers and marketers. I mean there's loads of paradox streamers and youtubers that don't do the ren faire poo poo.
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You might be reading a bit much into it. I'm pretty sure the reason they're in costume (well, some of them at least) and affecting accents is because Paradox encouraged them to roleplay and mailed at least some of them crowns (judging by a paradox comment on one video), and OPB invaded Poland because that land was needed for the "Unite the West Slavs" decision. But, you know. You do you.
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