Amnistar posted:

They are people that feel the need to pist, but come across as uncomfortable/self conscious. Sal's read was weak, hence no vote yet. Gumball I feel better about. Posting that they are glad they didn't miss the joke phase is empty and meaningless. They arent participating in the joke phase, just posting that they are glad they didn't miss it.

I caught someone last game with a similiar empty post "oh man thats a lot of posts." Who was in fact scum.

soscannonballs posted:

As someone who played vtmb I don't get scummy vibes from Byers' post. Everything he said about the sarcophagus is true, and I think there is a decent chance it just ends up killing a bunch of people.

Gumball Gumption posted:

I don't know if it's scummy but it is bold to claim that the big mechanical mcguffin is absolutely bad and no one should want it.

Byers2142 posted:

So let me make it more clear where my problem is. It's the two cases back to back; the case on Sal is bad as it's based on posting from pre-PMs and an ACAB joke, and the case on Gumball is an empty case. Can it make sense? Sure, but it's defensible regardless of Gumball's alignment. Sabbat, Cam, Anarch, or Mortal, the alignment doesn't matter. It's like Rarity's gut case on me, it's based on your history in other games and a weak connection to the current target's posting. It's mega-meta.

Rarity posted:

That's exactly what a scum would say

Dick Bastardly posted:

Byers post reads like: "If you want to move a game out of joke phaize, you do it like this; what i am doing now."

Sprinkled a little shade on on amni for good measure and oh yeah, control the narrative around the sarcophagus.

Amnistar posted:

Mechanics chat is generally something that all alignments engage in. Also, its not like people can really *not* look for things, they have to submit a location every day, and isuspect there are roles that interact with the daytime search mechanic.

Amnistar posted:

My reads aren't based on meta, they are based on the perception of self consciousness in posting day 1.

Amnistar posted:

I caught someone last game with a similiar empty post "oh man thats a lot of posts." Who was in fact scum.

Rarity posted:

You know what? Since my grand return to mafia my D1 gut reads have been on point so I'm gonna call it. Byers is scum.

Gumball Gumption posted:

The way I read the rules you can choose not to look and just stay home. So yeah, it's kind of a bold claim to declare that it has to be bad and encourage people to not look for it.

Rarity posted:

Why are you ignoring that I specifically said my read had nothing to do with his mechanics theory?

Dick Bastardly posted:

Byers post reads like: "If you want to move a game out of joke phaize, you do it like this; what i am doing now."

Sprinkled a little shade on on amni for good measure and oh yeah, control the narrative around the sarcophagus.

I don't really like it. ##vote byers

Byers2142 posted:

That's true. It's also what town would say.

Rarity posted:

Your whole vibe is just way too serious right now

Byers2142 posted:

I don't want everyone to gather in a location and then get blown up.

Amnistar posted:

"Each DAY you must let me know which location you'd like to be at that nigh"

Searching is not optional.

Byers2142 posted:

So let me make it more clear where my problem is. It's the two cases back to back; the case on Sal is bad as it's based on posting from pre-PMs and an ACAB joke, and the case on Gumball is an empty case. Can it make sense? Sure, but it's defensible regardless of Gumball's alignment. Sabbat, Cam, Anarch, or Mortal, the alignment doesn't matter. It's like Rarity's gut case on me, it's based on your history in other games and a weak connection to the current target's posting. It's mega-meta.

Rarity posted:

I also caught the entire scum team on D1 of 40k mafia!

Dick Bastardly posted:

Maybe I missed a post or maybe I lack contextual info based on knowledge of flavor, but how are these alignments known already? The only alignment I know exists by name is "Mortal"

CapitalistPig posted:

An ancient artifact known as the Ankaran Sarcophagus is at the center of recent tensions between the vampire sects, The Camarilla, The Sabbat, and The Anarchs. There's also the poor sad Mortals, manipulated and used in the clandestine wars of the other three.

Dick Bastardly posted:

Byers post reads like: "If you want to move a game out of joke phaize, you do it like this; what i am doing now."

Sprinkled a little shade on on amni for good measure and oh yeah, control the narrative around the sarcophagus.

I don't really like it. ##vote byers

Byers2142 posted:

Real question, how can you be 90% confident in a meta call in joke phase?

Rarity posted:

Does that make this a 3 scum team game?

tpink posted:

lol at Byers getting heat for trying to move the game beyond dumb jokes. HOW RUDE.

Dick Bastardly posted:

Maybe I missed a post or maybe I lack contextual info based on knowledge of flavor, but how are these alignments known already? The only alignment I know exists by name is "Mortal"

Byers2142 posted:

I see that "reading the OP" is still a skill mafia players lack...

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

"Oh man, that's a lot of posts." Tobbs sweats profusely, dabbing his neck with an already-moist handkerchief.

Amnistar posted:

This post pings me. Sal made it easy to vote steak before the game started, new joke makes me think sal is self conscious about their appearences. Please note this for later.

Byers2142 posted:

I see that "reading the OP" is still a skill mafia players lack...

Gumball Gumption posted:

Because you think they'll get blown up even though we've been told you'll get a power for finding it.

Rarity posted:

Gonna lol if this is Tobbs pulling the same scummy intro post SNG pulled in my last game

Amnistar posted:

I caught someone last game with a similiar empty post "oh man thats a lot of posts." Who was in fact scum.

Gumball Gumption posted:

Because you think they'll get blown up even though we've been told you'll get a power for finding it.


"If you haven't chosen a location by the end of the day execution post you'll stay home and won't have a chance at either item."

Dick Bastardly posted:

That's the cover I think. Yeah moving the game out of joke phaize isn't scummy and might even look like effort posting but it comes off as too sure about mechanics and flavor and it pings me a bit

Gumball Gumption posted:

Byers2142 posted:

Here's what I believe about the mechanics; this is based on my role PM, the OP, and my knowledge of the source material:

There are four alignments, as detailed in the OP. At least two are scum, maybe three.

There are two main items, the Key and the Coffin. Combining them does something; in the source game, it was believed it would grant power but it was a trap. Given how flavor heavy this game is, I suspect it's a trap here as well, and will avoid it to ensure I don't fall victim to it.

I don't understand how any of those are massive leaps in judgement, and the Coffin trap is worth calling out in case it can save lives.

Gumball Gumption posted:

Mr. Humalong posted:

yeah but otoh what if you hadn't revealed it and scum had blown themselves up with it?

Amnistar posted:

...bad cpig. That is now how the word must works!

Mr. Humalong posted:

Dick Bastardly posted:

That's the cover I think. Yeah moving the game out of joke phaize isn't scummy and might even look like effort posting but it comes off as too sure about mechanics and flavor and it pings me a bit