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Gripweed posted:If Woodward had released this tape in March it could've had a big effect on the reaction to Coranavirus. Maybe even some Trump supporters would've taken it a little more seriously. Trump would have still chugged along with his plan because he wants a whole shitload of people to die for him, the rest of the GOP might not have been willing to go along with the farce though.
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nachos posted:Doesn’t matter as long as he’s on defense for the next 60 days. The less attention on Biden the better more like the next 6 hours
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:48 |
This election owns https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1303751532194738181?s=20
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:48 |
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What's the number of votes that were necessary to swing the 2016 election? It's like a few hundred K in Wisconsin or something, right? I am curious if the number of Coronavirus deaths will surpass (has surpassed?) that number. It's not really meaningful if it does, but it is some kind of political curiosity / tragedy.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:48 |
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How concerned is Susan Collins?
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:49 |
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I had believed I was beyond reacting to things with "oh for fucks' sake" by now, but here we are.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:49 |
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TulliusCicero posted:Can you impeach a President twice? I think this is a key takeaway here: Trump UNDERSTOOD the implications of the corona back then. He wasn’t just blindly parroting talking points given to him by his babysitters, this clip shows that he himself understood 1: what Corona meant as a threat and 2: that his public respons was to downplay that threat, rather than fighting it. In short: Trump understood the danger of COVID, and yet, AND YET, decided that the best course of action was to publicly claim it’d go away like a miracle. If that’s not a tremendously damaging sound bite for him, I don’t know what is.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:50 |
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Endorph posted:more like the next 6 hours the coronavirus is causing significant erosion in trump's support (you can see this in his erosion in senior citizens), and having it on tape that he lied about it is going to come up constantly i would expect this audio to be playing in ads from now until election day
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:50 |
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DaveWoo posted:Bit of a weird tension in this thread between "these Trump quotes won't change anything lol" and "if only Woodward had released these Trump quotes six months ago, it would've changed everything". it's two different things, which is why you're confused. No the Woodward stuff wouldn't sway the election to begin with, but having a literal tape of him lying about how serious the virus is and admitting it would help, say, local leaders in georgia and texas and such fight against their idiot governors telling them they don't need a mask mandate and all.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:51 |
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Gripweed posted:This election owns what a cool election
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:52 |
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Cefte posted:
don't be ridiculous, it clearly links to the open thread because i definitely double-checked the OP when I started the summer thread rather than just copy-pasting as is current policy, which is not adequately reflected in the OP, is that Bidenchat takes over the thread in very toxic ways and engaging in it may or may not be probateable depending on how toxic the environment currently is, how many on a fairly regular basis we take a lighter hand on it because maybe this time it won't devolve into a disaster, and guess what happens and will happen again Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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TulliusCicero posted:Can you impeach a President twice? There is nothing preventing this other than politics. That and no other president managing to commit two independent impeachable offenses during a single term until now. Chimp_On_Stilts posted:What's the number of votes that were necessary to swing the 2016 election? It's like a few hundred K in Wisconsin or something, right? It was something like 10,000 votes across 3 critical blue wall states.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:53 |
I'm pissed but honestly not that surprised that Woodward sat on something like this for months, since I read his previous book on Trump and it was trash.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:53 |
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Trump has done way more than 2 impeachable things, every loving single month he's been in office
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:54 |
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quote:In the midst of reflecting upon how close the United States had come in 2017 to war with North Korea, Trump revealed, “I have built a nuclear — a weapons system that nobody’s ever had in this country before. We have stuff that you haven’t even seen or heard about. We have stuff that Putin and Xi have never heard about before. There’s nobody — what we have is incredible.” Uh what is our secret new weapons system? Wtf?
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:55 |
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Honestly? If you are from another country why the gently caress would you risk coming here, a COVID infested, Y'all Qaeda led, banana republic?
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:55 |
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TulliusCicero posted:Honestly? If you are from another country why the gently caress would you risk coming here, a COVID infested, Y'all Qaeda led, banana republic? Probably because people have work and family, genius
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:56 |
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Petitioning to officially relabel "First Past The Post" to "Race To Our National Grave"
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:56 |
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:Uh what is our secret new weapons system? Wtf? Nobody knows, this is Trump declassifying it. Off the cuff. On an unrelated phone call. With a journalist. Because he has the best brain.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:57 |
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https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1303754401077755904 i feel like that sort of agreement probably still shouldn't be honored but it's worth noting
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:58 |
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If we re-elect Donald Trump we deserve everything we get. He really is a dumb, malicious motherfucker.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:58 |
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The most surprising thing about this is that Yahoo News got the scoop.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 18:59 |
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https://twitter.com/ben_rosen/status/1303744465874509824?s=20
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:01 |
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Gripweed posted:This election owns Yeah it's pretty clear just from watching them. Trump seems way worse, but it's clear Biden has some issues. lol at everyone who insisted that Biden looked fine though
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punishedkissinger posted:Yeah it's pretty clear just from watching them. Trump seems way worse, but it's clear Biden has some issues. lol at everyone who insisted that Biden looked fine though Yeah, I don't think your gonna find a lot of those people in here. Everytime my dad starts worrying about Biden stuff, I remind him that everyone under 30 tried to warn people about him
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:02 |
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Biden's taking loads of live questions and answering them intelligently and consistently.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:02 |
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The sad fact of it is: these tapes and quotes are so awful precisely because of what has happened between February 2020 and today. Publishing them at the time would have got lost in the noise, while today, with closing on 200,000 dead, they are monstrous. That's not a value judgement, it's just the fact of the matter.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:03 |
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Pick posted:Biden's taking loads of live questions and answering them intelligently and consistently. Ok but clearly he's doing something wrong if 52% of likely voters think he seems mentally impaired then
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Like I watch the full speeches and broadcasts and he's not 2008 Biden but I also re-listened to a CSPAN recording from 1990 and fuckin Strom was still there and looked like poo poo and he was still effectual in 1990, the bastard.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:04 |
https://twitter.com/Matthaber/status/1303751862487625728?s=19
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punishedkissinger posted:Ok but clearly he's doing something wrong if 52% of likely voters think he seems mentally impaired then It's more like people are doing something wrong by listening to soundbites and their most online friends instead of just watching his speeches, interviews, and other appearances.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:05 |
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haveblue posted:There is nothing preventing this other than politics. That and no other president managing to commit two independent impeachable offenses during a single term until now. 77,000 combined in WI, PA, and MI.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:06 |
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Telsa Cola posted:If your argument is that the US is not going to be engaged in an equalish air war anytime soon and that it should instead focus on gun runs then your argument really should be that the US military needs a new and improved A-10, because any of the F-XX family is going to suck in comparison to a dedicated ground attack design. Sorry, only get so much time to browse through SA these days. The problem with this is the top brass of the Air Force want their super sleek speedy planes. The A-10 has been a thorn for them for decades. It's everything they hate; Ugly, slow, and not something they can delegate to anything but CAS. They've been trying to kill it since shortly after its release. From trying to phase it out to outright shredding the funding allocated for the planes. They can't because the plane is popular and works, it does a job none of the other planes can do. They hoped the F-35 could replace it and they'd get their nice little zippy plane they wanted. Supposedly designers are working on a new "super hog", and the brass are still trying to push the fighters they have as the answer instead. They really REALLY hate the hog The argument was a plane that was supposed to do CAS has dick for ammo and that it didn't matter because guns were obsolete anyways.
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How are u posted:The sad fact of it is: these tapes and quotes are so awful precisely because of what has happened between February 2020 and today. Publishing them at the time would have got lost in the noise, while today, with closing on 200,000 dead, they are monstrous. He still should have released the tapes back then though.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:07 |
I wonder if we'll ever know how many votes/voters the Russians erased in 2016.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:08 |
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BigglesSWE posted:https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1237027356314869761?s=21 It's like watching some troll or idiot try to explain away why their claims aren't wrong.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:08 |
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https://twitter.com/JarrettBlanc/status/1303753650880294912 https://twitter.com/hypervisible/status/1303360589444640769 https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1303723255493201920 https://twitter.com/caseyjohnston/status/1303688081082585088 https://twitter.com/JoeBerkowitz/status/1303751665636356098
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:09 |
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Pick posted:It's more like people are doing something wrong by listening to soundbites and their most online friends instead of just watching his speeches, interviews, and other appearances. You have to see where this strategy breaks down if you are requiring the general public to watch Biden ramble for twenty minutes before they can be allowed to pass judgement, right?
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:09 |
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Who let Trump do an interview with the Watergate guy?
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Has the Woodward book been released, or is this just part of the pre-release hype? Like - are there more shoes to drop from that book, or has someone gotten a copy and all the good bits are already in the Post?
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 19:09 |