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I learned pretty early to not let heirs or important councillors to be knights. They have a life expectancy of months.
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Sep 10, 2020 15:31
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TorakFade posted:also sometimes it's just funny to abduct the wife of a ruler that pissed you off, seduce her and send her back to the hubbie with your son growing in her belly. My son's wife had three kids, two of which I got the popup that she'd actually been banging some bucktoothed clown and one who immediately died to sickness. I noticed later there's a disinherit option, but despite the big reveal all three kids were listed as my bloodline. Parents were there like the adultery had never taken place. Is this one of those things you have to catch and immediately boot the new kid? Status of initial Ireland tutorial game: I generated a truly dumb amount of hooks but never got a chance to use them. It took me way too long to remember the fabricate claim button was on the other guy now. What I probably should have done is hook and murder the hell out of Scotland and England until they fall apart from succession and leave Ireland alone. Lost when I finally tried to push forward and had long since forgotten about the defensive troop boost that made a tiny county suddenly way bigger than me. Maybe he was rich as hell somehow and hired literally all the mercs. Also jesus I didn't note originally that primo is gated by some cultural research thing AND 140+ years. The mogols are going to take over the world.
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Sep 10, 2020 15:32
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I've been playing Volga Bolghars. I decided that their house motto could do with some improvement. 
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Sep 10, 2020 15:35
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Mailer posted:My son's wife had three kids, two of which I got the popup that she'd actually been banging some bucktoothed clown and one who immediately died to sickness. I noticed later there's a disinherit option, but despite the big reveal all three kids were listed as my bloodline. Parents were there like the adultery had never taken place. Is this one of those things you have to catch and immediately boot the new kid? WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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Sep 10, 2020 15:37
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I learned pretty early to not let heirs or important councillors to be knights. They have a life expectancy of months. That's the thing, they weren't even old enough to be Knights. They just got captured during the siege and that uppity lowborn prick immediately offed'em. 
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Sep 10, 2020 15:40
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Is it worth increasing control on your vassals' counties?
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Sep 10, 2020 15:41
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Pretty sure people can just make poo poo up about banging your wife so they can muddy the water around whether your kid is actually yours and give you opinion modifiers. My son had all the same hosed congenital traits I had and there was still a secret that he was the product of some Adonis and my wife. Somoene mentioned before that the game will edit relationships like that in response to a successful generate secrets plot. He probably was your son but somone's plot worked or a random event fired and now he isn't!
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Sep 10, 2020 15:42
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He inherited fine, so I guess it doesn't always actually edit it? Maybe it is a bug. Pretty powerful/annoying if you can just ruin a dynasty with a single scheme. Way more powerful than murder.
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Sep 10, 2020 15:46
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Weembles posted:Somoene mentioned before that the game will edit relationships like that in response to a successful generate secrets plot. It was really weird when my children ended up becoming bastards when i'm playing the Duchess of Tuscany. I like to think i'd know.
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Sep 10, 2020 15:47
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Died from unknown causes is such a troll. Just had my super healthy 40 year old King drop dead, losing me Wales AGAIN because my solo heir is a babby. Probably gonna see him get infanticided by ambitious uncles. Oh, and at 8 years old he went gay for his 7 year old cousin, so I got that going for me.
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Sep 10, 2020 15:52
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"My wife is pregnant, but I was away wasn't I? Doubt besets me." My CK2 character, a eunuch.
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Sep 10, 2020 15:54
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Panzeh posted:It was really weird when my children ended up becoming bastards when i'm playing the Duchess of Tuscany. I like to think i'd know. Yeah the disputed heritage event really needs to be given some hard counters. You want to call me or my wife a whore? Fine - you can do that all you want in my dungeon - and so can anyone else that dares mutter a drat word about it. I've wiped out entire dynasties through intrigue plots - but I can't squash some fabricated rumors about my daughter that I gave birth to? Also - wiping out an entire dynasty is actually not that hard thanks to stress and being able to run 2 plots at once. Kidnap as many children as you can, fill your dungeon with them, then execute them all at once. The stress spike across the dynasty will lead to a chain reaction of suicides and kidnapping kids is super easy. So yeah, here I am with a dungeon full of kids and a giant pile of children's heads that I chopped off, but my idiot vassal wants to make up rumors about my daughter? Yeah ok - you got any kids bud cause I'm about to free up some cells just for them....
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Sep 10, 2020 16:06
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How can I go about trying to get a hook on somebody useful to me? I haven’t specced into intrigue to get the fabricate ability yet, but can I also just send my spymaster to look for secrets? Are there more ways?
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Sep 10, 2020 16:11
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Tetramin posted:How can I go about trying to get a hook on somebody useful to me? Looking for secrets in the persons court with the spymaster is probably the only way to consistently find stuff to blackmail people with, yeah. You can sometimes get random events that give you hooks on people, but those are both inconsistent, and the person you get is usually random.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:13
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Oh dear me posted:Is it worth increasing control on your vassals' counties? If control is below a certain threshold (I think 35?) it can start creating some events that make the county effectively useless, so I do when it’s that low and my Marshall doesn’t have any other pressing matters.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:15
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You can release somebody from prison and gain favors/hooks that way Some events give you hooks (usually because you're doing somebody a favor or they're indebted to you) but this is unreliable You can indeed just use your spymaster to look for secrets. This will let you blackmail people for hooks.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:15
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Make a religion where everything is illegal, then arrest and release people for hooks every time they're caught doing something.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:20
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FileNotFound posted:Kidnap as many children as you can, fill your dungeon with them, then execute them all at once. The stress spike across the dynasty will lead to a chain reaction of suicides and kidnapping kids is super easy. CK3.txt I love the weird (or downright questionable) stuff this game pushes you to do.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:21
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Is there a recommended youtube channel for learning about the game? Seems there are a lot of beginner videos to wade through out there, which I am sure 99% of them are not that great.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:37
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Broken Cog posted:Make a religion where everything is illegal, then arrest and release people for hooks every time they're caught doing something. I took +fertility cultural legacies and fornication as a tenet for my Polish run. But I kept adultery and fornication illegal. I could arrest 20-40 people at any time.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:39
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OK, now I'm really frustrated. I've tried 4 times now to try and get this achievement with Haesteinn, and each time I get hosed. I just can't get the perfect storm of events that I got my first time that allowed me to seize Brittany, then Cornwall, and raid enough to get the cash to make the titles. Does anyone have any suggestions? Should I just abandon Montaigu entirely for somewhere else that's easier than being next to Charles and his 10,000 kids?
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Sep 10, 2020 16:41
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Frida Call Me posted:I took +fertility cultural legacies and fornication as a tenet for my Polish run. But I kept adultery and fornication illegal. I could arrest 20-40 people at any time. Ah yes, the "I'll know it when I see it." approach to adultery laws.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:41
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TorakFade posted:CK3.txt I don't even usually do intrigue much, but my realm went to my grandson who I did not raise because CK3 doesn't tell you about grandkids - and well I don't know whose ward he was, but by the time I took control he was solid into the intrigue tree, an adulterer, fornicator, 2 lovers, and everyone hated him. What was I supposed to do? The faction to put another on the throne was in full swing - kidnapping the faction leader was literally the first time I used that ability in the game.... That resolved the faction issue quickly...and then that kinda became that intrigue was all I did with that guy till he died of cancer at 37 - so maybe there is karma in the game...
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Sep 10, 2020 16:49
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Could have just let them win if the guy they wanted was of your dynasty and better 
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Sep 10, 2020 16:57
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Azhais posted:Could have just let them win if the guy they wanted was of your dynasty and better Yeah but I'm on ironman, so I wouldn't be able to switch to them - I'd just get hosed out of my empire titles right?
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Sep 10, 2020 17:00
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I still think Intrigue needs a bit of looking at. There are practically no repercussions for getting caught if you're a ruler.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:00
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Question: I own enough of the counties to create a dutchy, but some of the area that it would encompass is inside the realm of a neighbor. If I create the dutchy, do I get a claim on him?
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Sep 10, 2020 17:02
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Question: I own enough of the counties to create a dutchy, but some of the area that it would encompass is inside the realm of a neighbor. If I create the dutchy, do I get a claim on him? Yes
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Sep 10, 2020 17:04
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Pushing the feudalize button took me from 18k levies and 15 gold/mo to 4k and 1.3/mo in my Kanem Bornu game. Keeping poo poo together is going to be interesting.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:10
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Traxis posted:Pushing the feudalize button took me from 18k levies and 15 gold/mo to 4k and 1.3/mo in my Kanem Bornu game. Keeping poo poo together is going to be interesting. I think this process needs to be better for sure, I get balance-wise why tribals have so many levies but all of your castles now also have lower fort levels than fully upgraded tribal holdings. There should be a process for converting tribal buildings into castle buildings, giving you mottes with level 2 buildings in exchange for fully upgraded tribal holdings. And possibly start building a "free" city and temple in each county with available slots. It'd certainly help the AI out at any rate. I understand it'd be a big chain of "if, elseif" statements given the differences in available buildings based on terrain, but hopefully it's something that's possible.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:17
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Feudalizing doesn't give you a free city and temple in open slots here? It did in CK2.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:18
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Broken Cog posted:Feudalizing doesn't give you a free city and temple in open slots here? It did in CK2. It does not. I had to pay for them out of my own pocket and it wasn't cheap.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:21
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I guess it's time to stockpile gold in my current tribal game. At least I'm already at around 10k since you kinda run out of stuff to spend money on as tribals relatively quickly.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:26
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Broken Cog posted:I still think Intrigue needs a bit of looking at. There are practically no repercussions for getting caught if you're a ruler. It's absurdly powerful, because of how easily it negates revolts. You don't care if everyone hates you which makes tyranny irrelevant so you can be a 100 dread tyrant and hold the realm with an iron fist without ever having to raise your troops.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:27
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I'm kinda thinking for my 'remake ancient Egypt' run I should reform kordofan and then just take some feudal land and move my capital, rather then trying to go the slow and expensive way?
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Sep 10, 2020 17:32
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FileNotFound posted:It's absurdly powerful, because of how easily it negates revolts. You don't care if everyone hates you which makes tyranny irrelevant so you can be a 100 dread tyrant and hold the realm with an iron fist without ever having to raise your troops. A great way to survive succession is to keep a few prisoners stockpiled so your heir can start his career by executing a dozen random dudes and scaring everyone else in line.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:36
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I learned pretty early to not let heirs or important councillors to be knights. They have a life expectancy of months. Haha, playing as a Viking, my first 4 sons and a grandson died before i figured out why they die so fast and before their dad. Now i ban anyone in my family to become a knight, unless he's a doofus grandson that had a hook on me and forced himself on my council without any skill at all, I always hope he dies when i go raiding...
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Sep 10, 2020 17:36
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FileNotFound posted:It's absurdly powerful, because of how easily it negates revolts. You don't care if everyone hates you which makes tyranny irrelevant so you can be a 100 dread tyrant and hold the realm with an iron fist without ever having to raise your troops. Yeah, Dread is neat but seems a bit rushed. I think it's supposed to be balanced by how you instantly lose all of it when you fall ill, so it's supposed to be like you're living on the edge or something, but outside of that you can basically just do whatever, and only a few brave vassals dare to grumble. Also, all the +/- dread gain modifiers are pointless since you can max it out super easily by just executing a couple of people.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:37
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I learned pretty early to not let heirs or important councillors to be knights. They have a life expectancy of months. If my heir cant kick rear end, he doesnt deserve the kingdom
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I disallow my best two heirs from serving as knights. The rest, well, the bush spirits can sort them out. Disallowing particularly skilled chancellors as knights is good though, especially if they're also powerful vassals.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:42
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