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Pixelante posted:Some neat behind the scenes stuff about that poor whale. 50 feet long 10 feet high with anatomically correct insides! They built the set for the Hughie scenes inside it! PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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Sep 10, 2020 21:58
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Bioshuffle posted:It's pretty clear most of you are not open to the idea that there are multiple ways to interpret and analyze shows, but I know I'm not alone in how I feel, and I'll leave it at that. That's how the alt right works. They couch their racism to make it more palatable to a broader audience to pull people in, make them think it's all about self-actualization when really it's just a screen for racism. The character was depicted with that in mind. All the writers, directors, producers, and the actress have said that's exactly what they were going for. You're not reading far enough into it so you're making the mistake of buying the lie.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:04
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https://i.imgur.com/OUGPyw2.gifv
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Sep 10, 2020 22:07
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thrawn527 posted:Yeah, assuming you're not just a parody, I really want to know how you square the whole, "She's not necessarily a racist" thing with the racist slur she lets out at the end when she kills Kenji (Kimiko's brother). You seem to be purposefully not mentioning it so far, and you have to understand why no one is going to take you seriously while that's true. The show is laden with all types of profanity. Butcher drops the c word like it's going out of style, but it doesn't mean he's misogynist. He clearly cares about his wife. I think for the first time, we're seeing a superhero equivalent for Butcher. A superhero who is vulgar and bullheaded and isn't afraid to say things to get under people's skin. We also have to distinguish between the fact that she clearly views him as a terrorist. It's not as if she just found a random asian person on the street corner, this is someone who she holds a great deal of disdain for. Once again, see what I referenced about the WWII propaganda against Japanese people. It really fits the show's theme to the T. Recall that Homelander prefered to use America instead of world. Also note that a lot of times, military personnel are trained to view the adversary as inhuman. We spend so much time seeing Kimiko's brother causing all kinds of problems for Butcher's crew, and it was interesting to see how she doesn't view him as any kind of threat. She doesn't view him as a worthy adversary, she views him as an inconvenience. This makes her a great villain in my book. Obviously the term she uses is extremely racist, but I think she really enjoys tormenting and playing around with people (look at how she talks to Starlight for example, or even her first introduction where she openly mocks Homelander). She doesn't say those things because she's a racist, she says it to be as insulting as possible before killing someone. Then again, I've read the comic book series, so that may be influencing how I view the characters. I agree that she is an awful person, but in so far as the whole racism goes, I'm going to withhold my judgement until we see some more episodes. I'm really confused by all the open hostility. Any form of art is open to interpretation. I don't see the point in attacking someone just because they view things differently. To each their own I guess.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:08
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I guess the red text is accurate.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:09
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Bioshuffle posted:
When you say something racist to be as insulting as possible, you are still being racist.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:13
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I wouldn't be surprised if Homelander opens a milkbank charity for nursing mothers at some point in the show. Just a commercial on in the background.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:13
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I guess the red text is accurate.  Back on topic, I hate how much screen time they're wasting on the deep. I was hoping Butcher would put an end to him, but I guess he was protected by plot armor. Isn't he extremely vulnerable outside his ability to swim fast and communicate with animals? Or is the reason he was spared due to him not wanting to cause even more issues with the people he was looking to get help from?
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Sep 10, 2020 22:14
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Sending him away never to return is easier than rehabilitation and also doesn’t invite people to ask “well gee, The Deep, just how many women have you assaulted?”
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Sep 10, 2020 22:17
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What’s your problem with The Deep? I mean, are we *sure* he’s a sexual predator? There’s just no way to be certain really, we shouldn’t jump to conclusions 
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Sep 10, 2020 22:18
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I guess the red text is accurate. they got probed multiple times for being a bootlicker lmao. not surprised.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:19
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unlimited shrimp posted:I think anyone who doesn't see that Stormfront's murders in the apartment were racially motivated is being a contrarian, but what does remain to be seen is whether the writers are going to do anything interesting with it, or if she'll just be a cookie cutter white supremacist. In fairness, I don't think mainstream knowledge of Nazi iconography goes further than the swastika. Clearly her killing spree was racial, but for people who don't recognize that she's dressed like a billboard for the Fourth Reich (a large fraction of the audience, I suspect), I think that "reveal" is still coming in the next episode or so. quote:like I'm hoping it's more interesting than "what if a millenial social media star was ALSO a secret nazi???" I'm really hoping they don't connect her feminism or other progressiveness to being a secret Nazi and give the alt-right a meme to blast out every time someone mentions Elizabeth Warren.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:25
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They will come up with memes no matter what we make or how hard the things we create make fun of them. They are all little pisspigs, oinking and rolling in their slop.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:27
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Avasculous posted:In fairness, I don't think mainstream knowledge of Nazi iconography goes further than the swastika. The "reveal" came when using a slur while killing someone. No need to have it explained further. (I get what you're saying though. They're gonna show an already lovely person be even shittier). But yea I agree, trying to characterize or make someone like that relatable or even sympathetic would be a lovely thing to do. Nazi gonna nazi. That's all they need to do for us to know she's a garbage person and hopefully have Kimiko whoop her rear end in a spectacular fashion.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:29
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What time do new episodes of shows show up on Amazon?
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Sep 10, 2020 22:30
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Spacebump posted:What time do new episodes of shows show up on Amazon? They dropped Thursday last week right? I wonder if that was just a special early release because it was the season premiere.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:43
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Spacebump posted:What time do new episodes of shows show up on Amazon? Probably midnight PST
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Sep 10, 2020 22:48
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As Nero Danced posted:I wouldn't be surprised if Homelander opens a milkbank charity for nursing mothers at some point in the show. Just a commercial on in the background. 
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Sep 10, 2020 22:49
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As Nero Danced posted:That's how the alt right works. They couch their racism to make it more palatable to a broader audience to pull people in, make them think it's all about self-actualization when really it's just a screen for racism. Not really. It's not like she was shown to be making oblique references to right wing talking points, or trying to rationalize her bigotry. If you weren't primed by her name or comics knowledge then the apartment incident was a real heel turn. Avasculous posted:I'm really hoping they don't connect her feminism or other progressiveness to being a secret Nazi and give the alt-right a meme to blast out every time someone mentions Elizabeth Warren.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:58
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Bioshuffle posted:I don't see the point in attacking someone just because they view things differently. insert calm hitler meme here.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:03
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unlimited shrimp posted:Not really. It's not like she was shown to be making oblique references to right wing talking points, or trying to rationalize her bigotry. If you weren't primed by her name or comics knowledge then the apartment incident was a real heel turn.  When politics gets forcefully infused into a show just for the sake of being relevant and appealing to the woke crowd, terrible things happen. Need I remind you of the poo poo storm that was the Watchmen TV series? It's really interesting to see people get so upset when others don't share their viewpoint. I can't imagine what the Sopranos thread must have been like during the series finale.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:05
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Bioshuffle posted:Not sure why people are suddenly claiming she is the second coming of Hitler. Not everything has to be motivated by some political agenda. Sometimes, characters are evil just for the sake of being evil. gently caress off, racist
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Sep 10, 2020 23:11
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Bioshuffle posted:Not sure why people are suddenly claiming she is the second coming of Hitler. Not everything has to be motivated by some political agenda. Sometimes, characters are evil just for the sake of being evil. Forcefully infuse yourself out of the thread.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:12
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Bioshuffle posted:Not sure why people are suddenly claiming she is the second coming of Hitler. Not everything has to be motivated by some political agenda. Sometimes, characters are evil just for the sake of being evil.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:24
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This derail is laaaame fake edit: Piell posted:gently caress off, racist
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Sep 10, 2020 23:24
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Mitch McConnell can't be racist, he has an Asian wife@! I don't know what's sadder: the idea someone would troll this thread on this dead forum or the idea that someone might really hold these opinions.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:25
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thrawn527 posted:Yeah, assuming you're not just a parody, I really want to know how you square the whole, "She's not necessarily a racist" thing with the racist slur she lets out at the end when she kills Kenji (Kimiko's brother). You seem to be purposefully not mentioning it so far, and you have to understand why no one is going to take you seriously while that's true. I'm sure it's just because Kenji was a major player on the baseball team, The Yellows, and she also knew that his mom had an affair. It's actually a powerful moment revealing this info to the audience and the siblings.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:26
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Piell posted:gently caress off, racist
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Sep 10, 2020 23:26
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Bioshuffle posted:Not sure why people are suddenly claiming she is the second coming of Hitler. Not everything has to be motivated by some political agenda. Sometimes, characters are evil just for the sake of being evil. You're dumb and also the show cannot be divorced from politics because it is explicitly political. The guy wears a loving American flag as a cape.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:27
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Hey guys maybe stop feeding the trolls in this thread about a comic book TV show.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:33
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This is like arguing with Ben Shapiro without the benefit of being able to laugh at Ben when you're done.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:33
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As Nero Danced posted:This is like arguing with Ben Shapiro without the benefit of being able to laugh at Ben when you're done. ?? You can laugh. I still think the bit about “Jewish actors shouldn’t be allowed to play nazis” was sublime
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Sep 10, 2020 23:35
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Put the troll on ignore and move on.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:35
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this post is making me more mad than any of the other onesBioshuffle posted:When using a push mower, is it ok to turn the mower while the blades are spinning?
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Sep 10, 2020 23:37
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Judging by all the derailing posts and personal insults, it appears to me like you guys are turning into the very thing you're accusing me of. All I want to do is discuss the show. I don't think she's racist. I'm allowed to have opinions. If you disagree, that's great. There's really no need for this level of hostility. Seriously.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:40
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... Anyway stan Kimiko
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Sep 10, 2020 23:45
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Am I the only one who thought the black noir kimiko and the fight from last episode were terribly done. There's some cool stuff in last episodes with the effects and destruction but anytime it comes close to hand to hand range it's a dozen quick cuts that look horrible. Showrunners need to hire the guys who did the starz spartacus so we can finally get good fights on tv again.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:49
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Gaius Marius posted:Am I the only one who thought the black noir kimiko and the fight from last episode were terribly done. There's some cool stuff in last episodes with the effects and destruction but anytime it comes close to hand to hand range it's a dozen quick cuts that look horrible. Or the people that did the Banshee fights (which the guy that plays Homelander is the main character in). Seriously, watch Banshee.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:51
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Gaius Marius posted:Am I the only one who thought the black noir kimiko and the fight from last episode were terribly done. There's some cool stuff in last episodes with the effects and destruction but anytime it comes close to hand to hand range it's a dozen quick cuts that look horrible. Even if they're poorly done, I can't complain any time black noir gets screen time.
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Sep 10, 2020 23:53
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The fights in Daredevil are the gold standard, especially the later seasons The long-take stuff is insane
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