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spankmeister posted:They use it to process words op hosed up if true.
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mystes posted:Latex is decent as a typesetting language but I don't think it's great as a word processing experience, and I don't think emacs is really a replacement for an actual word processor either unless you just want to write latex in a plain text editor with previews of equations. it's absolutely not a word processor it's a programming language that happens to output pdfs
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I use word processors to convert word docs to PDF. I also use word processors to write resumes, which then get converted to PDF.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:52
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Malcolm XML posted:it's absolutely not a word processor it's a programming language that happens to output pdfs
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fun tex facts: it's a programming language via textual substitution everything is done via macros it's obviously turing complete: https://wiki.haskell.org/wikiupload/8/85/TMR-Issue13.pdf u have to run latex and bibtex 3 times because they all date back to the good ol days when ram was expensive
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Sapozhnik posted:Can't say I'm entirely unsympathetic when every single idiot gently caress programmer has had Terminal HTML5 Brain for at least the last five years the rare item that Sapozhnik, Tankakern, and I can all agree on
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Sapozhnik posted:Can't say I'm entirely unsympathetic when every single idiot gently caress programmer has had Terminal HTML5 Brain for at least the last five years do you honestly crack open vim and start writing TeX when you want to write a letter?
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Sep 11, 2020 01:28
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not that it would be uncool. I'd respect that. but using word processors is normal lol
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Sep 11, 2020 01:28
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Every time I try to get into latex the toolchain seems like absolute trash. what's the pro toolchain?
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Sep 11, 2020 01:29
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even my cv is .txt now, i think i've only used word processors to open lovely windows project docs at work in the last 15 years
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Sep 11, 2020 01:36
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Truga posted:even my cv is .txt now, i think i've only used word processors to open lovely windows project docs at work in the last 15 years So you use tex for type setting? I just apt-get installed tex and the package + dependencies are 689 megs. Good start
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Sep 11, 2020 01:37
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i use "download linkedin as pdf" op
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Sep 11, 2020 01:53
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ok i've figured out the difference between tex and latex and I have hello world in that cool font you see in academic journals. Badarse resume here i come, wish me luck linux thread
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Sep 11, 2020 02:01
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Amethyst posted:Every time I try to get into latex the toolchain seems like absolute trash. what's the pro toolchain? emacs
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Sep 11, 2020 02:17
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i'm way to invested in vim to install emacs in 2020
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Sep 11, 2020 02:21
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Amethyst posted:i'm way to invested in vim to install emacs in 2020 Good news, you can use spacemacs or doom-emacs and have a vim interface binding
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Sep 11, 2020 02:31
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I write documentation at work.
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Sep 11, 2020 02:33
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got an acceptable workflow going with sublime text + minimal build script + pdf viewer
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Sep 11, 2020 02:47
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Amethyst posted:got an acceptable workflow going with sublime text + minimal build script + pdf viewer I thought you were invested in vim
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Sep 11, 2020 03:07
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hifi posted:I thought you were invested in vim sublime vintage is just as good
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Sep 11, 2020 03:08
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I still use nano in the console, gedit for basic text editing, and a Jetbrains IDE for programming.
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Sep 11, 2020 03:11
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i don't think emacs sucks or whatever, it's cool as poo poo like vim is, I just don't have the time to invest into it
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Sep 11, 2020 03:16
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the documentation I write at work is either a text file, e-mail, or Confluence (in-browser rich text editor)
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Sep 11, 2020 04:46
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just use interleaf
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I used LaTeX for lab reports and stuff in school, and did it all on a PowerBook 520 with 120MB of disk and 12MB of RAM there was a LaTeX distribution for the Mac called OzTeX that was both compact and fairly complete, and thanks to its .dvi reader app I didn’t even have to generate PDFs from my documents before printing them for editing there was an emacs-like shareware editor called Alpha that was pretty badass, it had great syntax coloring, automatic source code navigation, etc. and was extensible in Tcl, and the main reason it existed was so its author and other academics could have a nice TeX writing environment on their Macs, so it had a ton of conveniences to use with LaTeX not gonna lie, if I had to do a ton of writing in LaTeX these days, I’d probably set up an emulator and use that for everything, rather than try to deal with the modern gigabyte-scale distributions
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Sep 11, 2020 06:37
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nah, latex was way worse in that era. the internals has been modernized heavily (proper support for modern fonts, unicode, vastly improved image/drawing embedding, a ton of weird limits lifted, etc. etc.), and while the tooling is still pretty rough the situation is better with e.g. evince to live preview the actual pdf rather than suffer the hugely unreliable dvi roundtrip. you don't need a huge distribution to make it work, but tbqh if you aren't really space-constrained the most convenient way is indeed to get some recommended baseline. really the worst thing about latex is that the defaults, despite claims from the believers, are pretty bad (mostly computer modern is a trash font), and it is a bit verbose for the super-common stuff. if someone got around to building a dsl that let you start writing in markdown with good default packages and only add "real" latex as you got more advanced the case for it would be pretty easy to make.
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I use edlin
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RFC2324 posted:I use edlin excuse me this is the linux thread?
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Sep 11, 2020 07:55
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:really the worst thing about latex is that the defaults, despite claims from the believers, are pretty bad (mostly computer modern is a trash font), and it is a bit verbose for the super-common stuff. if someone got around to building a dsl that let you start writing in markdown with good default packages and only add "real" latex as you got more advanced the case for it would be pretty easy to make. The fact that everyone has given up and just uses markdown with a separate preview window (because making a WYSIWYG editor is too hard now) in an editor that's written in Electron or something just shows that all software is garbage now.
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Amethyst posted:Every time I try to get into latex the toolchain seems like absolute trash. what's the pro toolchain? vscode + Latex Workshop extension you can even view the pdf inside vscode e: i tried overleaf but i still prefer vscode since the document preview is instant
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Sep 11, 2020 13:48
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whenever possible, i prefer plain text files w/ vscode extensions (markdown, plantuml, todo+, etc) in a git repo otherwise i use ms word if it's private or google docs if it's public/shared
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the russians used a pencil
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Sniep posted:excuse me this is the linux thread? FreeDOS version runs under linux and is GPL licensed
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Sep 11, 2020 16:02
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Sapozhnik posted:I mean what do people itt use word processors for, i am well aware that many people continue to use word processors ms word is pretty good as an ide actually. you can make your code look just how you like it, none of this dumb poo poo like “all function names must be the same color”. needs a few vb macros to add refactoring support and so on but vb is easy to write
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Sep 11, 2020 16:22
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Soricidus posted:ms word is pretty good as an ide actually. you can make your code look just how you like it, none of this dumb poo poo like “all function names must be the same color”. needs a few vb macros to add refactoring support and so on but vb is easy to write hahahhahahahahaha
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Soricidus posted:ms word is pretty good as an ide actually. you can make your code look just how you like it, none of this dumb poo poo like “all function names must be the same color”. needs a few vb macros to add refactoring support and so on but vb is easy to write
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abiword is the best ide 4 me
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The use of anything other than Pico/Nano is a counterrevolutionary exercise in bourgeois formalism.
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ed is the standard text editor.
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:ed is the standard text editor. This is decadent primitivism. Pico/Nano is the historically inevitable conclusion to the scientific development of the text editor.
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