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Victis posted:What makes no sense with that theory is why her daughter/clone would ALSO be identically racist Huh? You can't see any way? Lmao Comeon, if its her daughter and she raises her... where do you think racism comes from exactly? As to "would a nazi clone necessarily be a nazi" I guess that gets into a question of nature vs nurture but this show is pretty cartoony so I don't think they'd have any problems with saying a nazi clone is also a nazi. As Nero Danced posted:Exactly. What's more interesting, "I'm the clone of some rando hero from North Carolina in the 70s," "I'm the daughter of some rando hero from North Carolina in the 70s," or "remember how we mentioned the founder of the company was a Nazi scientist in the first episode? Well I was his guinea pig and I haven't age today since I left the Hitler youth." Yeah and I said the same earlier, I agree. But recognize that we've now ended up at "okay both are possible but this is more interesting so there's no reason it should be that" and we could have skipped the whole "ITS DEFINITELY THIS YOU IDIOTS" phase of the last 3 pages.
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Sep 12, 2020 23:18
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Zaphod42 posted:Please stop stating this over and over like its completely 100% definitive. Jesus christ. https://www.thewrap.com/the-boys-liberty-stormfront-homelander-madelyn-stillwell-doppelganger-eric-kripke/ quote:When Valerie — who says Vought paid off her family to keep them quiet — asks the group not to reveal what she’s told them because she is afraid of what Liberty would do to her, they try to comfort her by saying no one has seen Liberty since 1979 and “she’s probably dead by now.” Well, Valerie doesn’t agree, pointing at a picture of Stormfront on a newspaper and informing them that that is Liberty.
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Sep 12, 2020 23:31
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Yeah, to restate my point, I think the good money is on her being Liberty but I can also see why they might not do that. After how strongly it was telegraphed, the twist would be that she's not Liberty, not that she is Liberty. Also Jesus Christ do we all have PTSD from the culture wars or something? Bullshitting and thinking out loud is one of the best parts of following a show.
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Sep 12, 2020 23:34
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Piell posted:Ryan secretly being Butcher's kid rather than Homelander's is a more likely twist than Stormfront not being Liberty. Annie being Stormfront's daughter is a more likely twist than Stormfront not being Liberty. This is from a few pages back but this is my personal pet theory for dumb the dumbest reason: in the comics they made a big deal about how the best way to get super heroes that weren't garbage was to inject a fetus in utero. Homelander's loaded up with V, not entirely unlike Spiderman and his infamously radioactive sperm, and BAM you get super kid. When Becca goes to Vought they realize it's not Homelander's kid, but Homelander sure as hell won't know so they just say it is because that's far more terrifying and easier to use to manipulate everyone involved. FilthyImp posted:Cult guys being an arm of Shining Light would be pretty cool. I'm pretty sure that's their entire motivation for continuing to deal with The Deep who, based on the reactions, is still too dumb for anyone to want to keep trying to cult him up personally.
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Sep 12, 2020 23:36
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Nuebot posted:This is from a few pages back but this is my personal pet theory for dumb the dumbest reason: in the comics they made a big deal about how the best way to get super heroes that weren't garbage was to inject a fetus in utero. Homelander's loaded up with V, not entirely unlike Spiderman and his infamously radioactive sperm, and BAM you get super kid. When Becca goes to Vought they realize it's not Homelander's kid, but Homelander sure as hell won't know so they just say it is because that's far more terrifying and easier to use to manipulate everyone involved. Becca literally said "Homelander raped me". If any other supe had done that to her I feel like Becca would have said something about it since she has no reason to lie to Butcher.
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Sep 12, 2020 23:38
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Elephant Ambush posted:Becca literally said "Homelander raped me". If any other supe had done that to her I feel like Becca would have said something about it since she has no reason to lie to Butcher.  Yes? The fact that Homelander raped Becca is not incompatible with the idea that she was already pregnant with her husband's child.
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Sep 12, 2020 23:41
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Nuebot posted:
Oh I see what you mean but that makes no sense based on everything we've seen in the show. Even if my dumb fan theory is true and Butcher is a supe and doesn't know it, the laser eyes are kind of a dead giveaway unless the RNG is hilariously coincidental.
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Sep 12, 2020 23:45
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We need a Maury Povich paternity test episode to get to the bottom of this. "Homelander believes you can't get pregnant on the first time. Billy says no one in his family has laser eyes. Becca says she knows the truth, but we don't believe her. Find out today." (As an aside, Jesus daytime tv is poo poo) E: removing a poor taste joke. Some poo poo should stay in the garbage even if you're pointing out it's flaws. As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Sep 13, 2020 |
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Sep 12, 2020 23:48
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Elephant Ambush posted:Oh I see what you mean but that makes no sense based on everything we've seen in the show. Even if my dumb fan theory is true and Butcher is a supe and doesn't know it, the laser eyes are kind of a dead giveaway unless the RNG is hilariously coincidental. Clearly that's just a red herring and he got the super powers of being mildly stronger than normal, and glowing eyes like a creepy animatronic. 
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Sep 12, 2020 23:59
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Hey, cool thing I found re-watching season 1. You know how Homelander keeps insisting it's super-villains and not super-terrorists? Once the Boys figure out what's going on, Butcher also refers to them as super-villains.
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Sep 13, 2020 00:05
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Elephant Ambush posted:Jesus christ. If only they had put some clues
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Sep 13, 2020 00:12
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I could see them making Butcher sterile just to really twist the knife a little more.
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Sep 13, 2020 00:12
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I haven't really seen anybody posit this theory in the thread, but what if Stormfront is Homelander's bio-mom? In the comics, Homelander was made from Stormfront's DNA. Liberty disappeared off the map in 1979, which would line up to be around the right age for Homelander. It would explain why Edgar recruited her for the Seven. He has to know what a complete racist psycho she is, and chose her despite that because of the maternal connection knowing how many Mommy issues Homelander has. The disappointment and reverence she shows as she circles around HL would definitely track with that theory.
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Sep 13, 2020 00:31
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Bust Rodd posted:I am also genuinely afraid for MM this season and hope this stupid Stormfront psycho never lays a hand on my sweet, beautiful man I wish MM were my dad.
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Sep 13, 2020 00:34
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Hate-O-Tron posted:I haven't really seen anybody posit this theory in the thread, but what if Stormfront is Homelander's bio-mom? I've seen someone posit this, but I'm not sure if it was here. I'm kinda expecting for it to be true, and for it to somehow dovetail with Homelander's weird mommy/lactation fetish. Like he makes a blatant sexual pass at her and she shuts him down by revealing that she's his mom, then he flies away with an angry confused boner.
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Sep 13, 2020 00:39
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Tip posted:I've seen someone posit this, but I'm not sure if it was here. I'm kinda expecting for it to be true, and for it to somehow dovetail with Homelander's weird mommy/lactation fetish. She already implied he can come back for sex in that scene together. Stormfront dont gently caress your son
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Sep 13, 2020 00:40
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Gotta keep the super blood pure and blue
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Sep 13, 2020 00:43
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unlimited shrimp posted:She already implied he can come back for sex in that scene together. Makes that "now laser my tits" thing from the trailer something else, doesn't it.
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Sep 13, 2020 00:54
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Frenchy's sex friend has a target tattoo between her boobs
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Sep 13, 2020 01:04
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^^^ you don't?Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:If only they had put some clues Kripke is clearly just messing with us so the reveal is even more exciting!
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Sep 13, 2020 01:04
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Hate-O-Tron posted:I haven't really seen anybody posit this theory in the thread, but what if Stormfront is Homelander's bio-mom? Now this is a swerve that would be interesting, and paint their last scene in a different light. I’m wondering if the crowd scene from the previews with Homelander leads to an Iredeemable situation for him where it becomes public knowledge he killed an innocent, he has a public freak out and seriously fucks poo poo up afterwards to force people to worship him again.
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Sep 13, 2020 01:05
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Hate-O-Tron posted:I haven't really seen anybody posit this theory in the thread, but what if Stormfront is Homelander's bio-mom? Well HL had to have had sperm from a dad and an egg from a mom and the records of those people are absolutely on file with Vought somewhere and I'm kinda surprised HL hasn't bothered to torture it out of some people by now. Maybe later this season or next season.
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Sep 13, 2020 01:11
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Elephant Ambush posted:Well HL had to have had sperm from a dad and an egg from a mom and the records of those people are absolutely on file with Vought somewhere and I'm kinda surprised HL hasn't bothered to torture it out of some people by now. Maybe later this season or next season. I think he juiced the guy that would have known best when he got the info about Becca's whereabouts
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Sep 13, 2020 01:22
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this was such a good early scene https://i.imgur.com/RsZ2xpI.gifv
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Sep 13, 2020 01:32
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https://i.imgur.com/LqDduDN.gifv
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Sep 13, 2020 01:40
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lmao I didn't even notice that amazing cut when I first watched this, was too distracted by those facial expressions. Also, Liberty is definitely Stormfront, but just for the sake of fun, these are the only two actual images of Liberty in the show so far I believe: 
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Sep 13, 2020 01:54
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magiccarpet posted:TV IV... TV IV never changes. I knew Zaphod and Bioshuffle would end up on the same page as one another. TV IVs ability to misinterpret clear signs in shows is an inevitable as the tides.
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Sep 13, 2020 02:02
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It wouldn't surprise me if some of the goons in this thread start claiming Homelander and Doppleganger are the same character because they're portrayed by the same actor. Why even bother watching the show if they already have all the puzzle pieces figured out? It's baffling. To say the least. There is absolutely no evidence in the show that they are the same, outside one sentence which could be interpreted a million different ways, and an accusation from someone who had one encounter, in the dark literally decades before the present. Don't forget that during the incident where Liberty kills the brother, she is wearing a hoodie, in the dark, and the girl is inside the car. That's outside the fact that witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. I'm going to bookmark this page so I can see how they backpedal when it turns out the whole thing was a red herring.
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Sep 13, 2020 02:03
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Sep 13, 2020 02:04
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Yeah i would be seriously suprised if she is not Liberty, even if that would be my personal preference. Ultimately these are just superficial details.
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Sep 13, 2020 02:04
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Baudolino posted:Yeah i would be seriously suprised if she is not Liberty, even if that would be my personal preference. Part of me thinks it would be just as interesting if they were the one and the same. It'd be cool to see how she's had to change and adapt to survive cancel culture. Especially since there's been no overt hints that racism was any part of Vought's agenda. If they are one and the same, does Edgar know the truth?
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Sep 13, 2020 02:07
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Bioshuffle posted:It wouldn't surprise me if some of the goons in this thread start claiming Homelander and Doppleganger are the same character because they're portrayed by the same actor. Why even bother watching the show if they already have all the puzzle pieces figured out? It's baffling. To say the least. Will you actually admit you're wrong if it turns out you are, or are you just going to continue this full steam ahead thing where you say "I don't believe a character is ___ even though the character, actors, writers, producers, showrunner, and the source material all say said they are ___"?
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Sep 13, 2020 02:07
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Maybe Edgar is a clone of that nice lady's brother
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Sep 13, 2020 02:08
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“There’s absolutely no proof in the show except the proof in the show” is certainly a take, I’ll give you that.
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Sep 13, 2020 02:09
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Bioshuffle posted:It wouldn't surprise me if some of the goons in this thread start claiming Homelander and Doppleganger are the same character because they're portrayed by the same actor. Why even bother watching the show if they already have all the puzzle pieces figured out? It's baffling. To say the least. so like, are you unbothered and just Putting This Out There or fantasizing about owning the non-believers these contrarian vibes are so 2005
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Sep 13, 2020 02:09
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Disapointed at lack of ghana pole bearers in the memes, and also disapointed at lack of 70's dad rock, kripke get yourself together.
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Sep 13, 2020 02:11
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  strokes beard, swirls glass
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Sep 13, 2020 02:13
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As Nero Danced posted:"I don't believe a character is ___ even though the character, actors, writers, producers, showrunner, and the source material all say said they are ___"? Viewers should and do have the right to disagree with the show runners. That's the beauty of art. Once you release it into the world you no longer have the final say in how people interpret it. “All worthy work is open to interpretations the author did not intend. Art isn't your pet -- it's your kid. It grows up and talks back to you." -Joss Whedon If what I predicted doesn't turn out, the thing I'm guilty of is guessing wrong. It's not like we're in some contest where we have to guess everything correctly. Speculating about potential outcomes is half the fun.
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Sep 13, 2020 02:16
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Bioshuffle posted:Viewers should and do have the right to disagree with the show runners. That's the beauty of art. Once you release it into the world you no longer have the final say in how people interpret it. "Frodo rode an eagle to drop off the Ring, the movie was like twenty minutes long, I don't get what the big deal about the LOTR movies is." Why are you even watching this if you're just going to make a show that only exists in your head? I mean, you can argue interpretations and themes all you want. You don't get to have your own facts. Stormfront is Liberty. Piell fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Sep 13, 2020 |
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Sep 13, 2020 02:20
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Aya Cash is the best and I'm super happy to see her getting more high-profile work and everyone should watch You're the Worst that's all
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