DrDork posted:

Basically every AMD card for the last 5+ years has been overclocked to hell. I wouldn't expect anything less from Big Navi, especially if juicing the gently caress out of it gets those benchmarks closer to a 3080. Ampere has already given them the excuse, since dropping a 350W card won't look crazy now like it would have last year.

shrike82 posted:

wrong

Theophany posted:

I don't have a 2080Ti because $1500 is a bit rich for my blood. Steam hardware surveys would suggest I'm not in the minority.

That makes the narrow relative comparisons difficult to properly interpret and unhelpful when it comes to a buying decision. I'd wager the vast majority are coming from 7, 9 and 10 series cards, not 20 series.

sean10mm posted:

repiv posted:

control doesn't have a canned benchmark so it might just be down to difference in methodology

again though, rt high in control is silly and the 3080 will probably do upwards of 80fps at 4k with it on medium

a 2080ti already does 55-60 fps with rt medium and dlss

Josh Lyman posted:

All the reviews focusing on comparing it to 2080 Ti are flawed. Yes it should be faster and it is by 25%, but the proper comparison is the 2080. Just because reviewers got them for free doesn’t change the fact that almost nobody bought a $1200 video card.

edit: apparently Steam survey says 2080 is 0.96% and 2080Ti is 0.91% so they basically had the same sales?

MikeC posted:

Is High the setting used to get the half transparency on the glass?

shrike82 posted:

so 50% faster than the 2080, what was up with the 2x 2080 that everyone was repeating

shrike82 posted:

lol the 3090 reviews are going to be something if there’s only a 20% uplift

DrDork posted:

Twice as fast in RTX calculations is what NVidia said. And from the looks of it, they've about doubled the performance in RTX in most games, so they're not really blowing smoke there.

Just, again, a lot of people didn't bother listening to the end of the sentence and just heard "double the performance" and thought that it would apply to everything, everywhere.

sean10mm posted:

It's almost like the same points keep getting repeated, and keep failing to sink in.

Nfcknblvbl posted:

Geforce 256?

sauer kraut posted:

Almost every AMD card. The stock 5700 is tuned perfectly, too bad about those persistent blackscreen/framedrop issues with Navi1

shrike82 posted:

Kinda puts DrDork’s “heh not everything needs DLSS” in a pretty poor light if RT isn’t there yet

chaleski posted:

You're being kinda weird, man

Taima posted:

That's a totally valid point and they really should give basic explanations (or maybe even more saliently, stop offering stupid rear end settings that do nothing at huge cost).

I usually just start playing the game, and every 5 minutes or so I'll tweak a setting or two, see how it runs and if it effects the graphics much, repeat for about 20-30 mins just playing the game as normal, and by the end of that time it's usually pretty clear what the worst offenders are.

There's also almost always threads about performance for any new demanding game within hours of that games release that go over the no-brainer things to change.

But yeah it's annoying, agreed. Still, I feel a small break-in process on a new game is worth it in exchange for often 20-40% better performance.

Jenny Agutter posted:

geforce experience is actually pretty good for this, they have screenshots with highlights of what every setting does. that plus the automatic settings, even if you don't actually use them, should give you a good idea of what is and isn't worth turning up or down

shrike82 posted:

lol the PS5 is apparently up for preorder today too so it’s going to be a general clusterfuck

shrike82 posted:

lol the PS5 is apparently up for preorder today too so it’s going to be a general clusterfuck

Sony posted:

PS5 pre-orders will be available starting as early as tomorrow at select retailers.

shrike82 posted:

DeS, Horizon 2 and Spider-Man Morales all being PS4 games means that console games aren’t going to push PC hardware for another couple years

shrike82 posted:

Kinda puts DrDork’s “heh not everything needs DLSS” in a pretty poor light if RT isn’t there yet

DrDork posted:

So interesting to see if anyone breaks early, but for the most part it should be tomorrow, not today, unless you're in NZ or such.

Verviticus posted:

going off of past trends, is it more likely that the 3070 release is going to be more accessible or are we more likely to just see an entire generation of cards be unavailable until 2021

DrDork posted:

I mean, I do not really feel that I need DLSS to run Stardew Valley, Fall Guys, etc., no.

But for games with RTX enabled? Yeah, DLSS turns a lot of those from "iffy" experiences into very good ones--why wouldn't you use it if you have it available? I really don't know what you're trying to argue here.

Verviticus posted:

going off of past trends, is it more likely that the 3070 release is going to be more accessible or are we more likely to just see an entire generation of cards be unavailable until 2021

bloodysabbath posted:

Is it worth upgrading to a 3080/3090 if I already have a 2080ti (EVGA FTW)? I sit in front of a 65in TV and play with the PC hooked up. Can easily get 1440p/max everywhere, and 4K/max on most games if i put DLSS on. I don’t really need over 60fps.

With news that PS5 is going to be nothing but multiplats (even supposed exclusives look like they’ll be launched on PS4 or PC), my guess is that next gen doesn’t really start until 2022 or so, and moving up would be overkill at this time.

repiv posted:

assuming sony and microsoft didn't buy all the worlds gddr6 supply for their new consoles