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I wouldn't say it's quite the same thing, but there is a Rimworld mod which allows you to build elevators to randomly generated "underground" levels. It's supposed to be a mining mod first and foremost and your colonists cannot really deal with the idea of pathfinding across multiple levels, but it is entirely possible to build an entire base down there. It goes basically as far as you want it to, the whole is procedurally generated. I can't remember the name for the life of me, but you should be able to find it easily enough.
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There's a full blown 3z levels with pathing support mod now I believe, although I haven't tried it myself.
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Oh, nice. If I ever touch Rimworld again, I'll have to try that. Thanks for mentioning it.
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There’s this fact from knot theory that roughly translates to saying that any system of hallways, no matter how loopy and interlinked with itself, would fit in exactly two z-levels (and sufficient space horizontally, of course). All you really need is some sort of crossing tile so that one path can pass under another.
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That only really works on the assumption that you are allowed to stretch or shorten hallway lengths at will, though. Right?
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Yeah, it's a topological idea, so you'll have to bend and stretch everything to fit. DF is on a grid, which makes it harder in the "figuring it out as a human" sense, but is equivalent from the math standpoint; you can always reshape a knot diagram so it consists of only vertical and horizontal lines and hence fits on a grid (again assuming your grid is arbitrarily large). Games like Factorio are essentially making use of this; you have to send your items along a zillion criss-crossy connections, and cramming those connections into a 2D plane (via specific methods for crossing one conveyor belt over another) is a big part of the gameplay. megane fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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I just hope the Steam version keeps the same keybindings. I have a lot of fort builds saved as macros and I don't want to have to retype them all (I will totally retype them all if I have to). I like to do each floor of the fort in a different fractal pattern.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I just hope the Steam version keeps the same keybindings. I have a lot of fort builds saved as macros and I don't want to have to retype them all (I will totally retype them all if I have to). pics or it didnt happen
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Tias posted:pics or it didnt happen http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=16901.msg1015652#msg1015652 http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=35931.msg2370202#msg2370202 Past that it was just https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Bedroom_design which each floor as a different fractal, then a two-tile wide (that is, five tiles total on each side) central winding staircase. I still have all the .csv's saved somewhere. My main floor was that Hactar fractal but done snowflake-style with a big central room and either two or three tile wide main corridors. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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I can't seem to open the .csv file. What do I need  Love your central waterfall idea!
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yeah those links are all dead, sorry. one sec whew, yeah, at some point I uploaded them to google sheets https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByLUM8IkX78aYjFhYjA0ZDMtZDkxNS00ZTFjLTllYTItMmU1NWRhNGU4ZDZk?usp=sharing From what I recall (goddam, it's been almost a decade) the basic fort design worked fine, it was just Too drat Big and died the slow death of cpu-bottlenecked big forts long before I used even half of the space. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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I still can't understand them, sorry :o what's d and what's r - am I supposed to copy them into the game somehow?
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You feed them into http://www.joelpt.net/quickfort/ , or at least you did back in the day. Might no longer work (that was kinda my question, really)
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An actual UI would definitely make DF more enjoyable for me but I wonder if they are going to make the military side a bit more intuitive/usable/less chaotic.
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Oh snap! Thanks a lot!
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Knot theory might sound great on paper, but with that many dwarves so close to their everyday needs and activities, it makes the bad thoughts downward spiral that much faster.
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Freakazoid_ posted:Knot theory might sound great on paper, but with that many dwarves so close to their everyday needs and activities, it makes the bad thoughts downward spiral that much faster. Gotta admit it is dwarfy as all gently caress, tho "Everything is TOO NICE! Smash the state!"
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There is a fortress in my world called Workercruelties. I know this because I found a very angrily written book about it.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I just hope the Steam version keeps the same keybindings. I have a lot of fort builds saved as macros and I don't want to have to retype them all (I will totally retype them all if I have to). Reminded me of this https://xkcd.com/1172/
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Glory to Italia!
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Tias posted:So I've trained my first war animal in a long while (a giant grizzly bear [v]iew the unit, skip to the [p]references tab, pick [a] for Work Animals.
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I'm super loving stoked for 'dwarf fortress but you can actually know what the fucks going on without carefully carving wrinkles into your brain'
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This is Idekzulash an artifact brain, all craftdwarfship is of the highest quality, it is adorned with hanging loops of comprehension in Motherfucker's human brain matter. It menaces with spikes of understanding.
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I'm actually kinda concerned about the reverse. I've been able to see the matrix for so long that I'm worried graphics may weirdly introduce a new difficulty curve for me. Not that I intend to suggest graphical DF is in any way a bad idea. my brain is just bad and I worry about dumb things constantly
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From my own experience with roguelikes that suddenly got a graphical tile option, you get used to it very, very quickly.
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I've said this a number of times but I really hope the Steam version has a "classic" ASCII graphic set. My only minor worry is that graphics can sometimes take away from the minds imagination, but I'm still very stoked for the Steam version.
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Popete posted:I've said this a number of times but I really hope the Steam version has a "classic" ASCII graphic set. My only minor worry is that graphics can sometimes take away from the minds imagination, but I'm still very stoked for the Steam version.
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Pickled Tink posted:In one of the DF talks Toady mentioned that Steam insisted that the ascii version be available too, so it will be. Yeah, steam wants it all.
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Kind of a weird thought that Valve would explicitly insist on getting the ASCII version, but hey, so much the better I guess.
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Pickled Tink posted:In one of the DF talks Toady mentioned that Steam insisted that the ascii version be available too, so it will be. That's good to hear. I figure it's probably a pretty trivial feature to add to the Steam version considering they are going to maintain the free version on the bay12 site.
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Yeah Valve probably wants to route the real heads through Steam so we get exposed to the advertising for whatever inferior non-dwarven software is available lately.
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I can’t wait for the Steam release but partially because I want feature development to continue full throttle
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I hope Toady makes hella bank off this release and can live in comfort through the hellscape that is American healthcare.
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The graphics are nice and I will definitely play with them on, but the main reason I'm holding off playing my next game is the overhauled UI. It's going to be amazing. I hope he also makes legends mode a bit easier to delve into in the game itself rather than pulling everything out in dfhack.
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Nessus posted:Yeah Valve probably wants to route the real heads through Steam so we get exposed to the advertising for whatever inferior non-dwarven software is available lately. I actually doubt that its a malicious or crafty reason. Honestly, think about the type of people who would work for steam. There’s probably a few low to mid-level managers who are REALLY excited that dwarf fortress is going to be supported by something they are working on and they threw in the ascii request since that’s the version they started with.
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Demiurge4 posted:I hope Toady makes hella bank off this release and can live in comfort through the hellscape that is American healthcare.
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Demiurge4 posted:I hope Toady makes hella bank off this release and can live in comfort through the hellscape that is American healthcare. Hopefully he can make bank and move to another country with better healthcare. E: And all the other bonuses of leaving this hellscape of a nation Leal fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Sep 17, 2020 |
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Motherfucker posted:I'm super loving stoked for 'dwarf fortress but you can actually know what the fucks going on without carefully carving wrinkles into your brain' Scientists say we only use 10% of our brain and you better have been training on the other 90% to get Legendary Engraver before you even think about it buster
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Demiurge4 posted:I hope Toady makes hella bank off this release and can live in comfort through the hellscape that is American healthcare.
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