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n8r posted:Machine built trails are too wide and too smooth. Flow us fun for about two corners then I want a different kind of corner after that. Have you tried riding faster? Or better?
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kimbo305 posted:I spent 3.5h putting on Cushcores and tires. You absolutely have to wedge the bead down to the center channel to have any hope of getting the whole bead over. I think soapy water is also key to pumping the bead back to the hook — trying to physically wrench the bead didn’t work. Shop put mine on for free so I feel real good about that now. n8r posted:Machine built trails are too wide and too smooth. Flow us fun for about two corners then I want a different kind of corner after that. I can understand this for sure. Having variety is very nice. Machine built flow trails tend to be pretty repetitive and they can be way too wide (my one complaint about the DTE trails in Michigan). As long as you have stuff around you to switch it up though it is all fun. It now is getting dark way too early. makes me sad.
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Sep 18, 2020 03:58
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n8r posted:Machine built trails are too wide and too smooth. Flow us fun for about two corners then I want a different kind of corner after that. I can machine build tread as narrow as any hand built, people just don't want 6 inch tread and a machine is infinitely faster for any built features which unfortunately is all you've got for big sections of a lot of builds. Not to mention any jumps demand a wider takeoff and landing thatguy fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Sep 18, 2020 |
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Sep 18, 2020 04:59
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Also, I’ve looked at videos of particular Whistler trails and thought “It’s just switchbacks over and over again? Seems boring.” I’m probably wrong about that, but I really do like the variety of corners and elevation changes we have in the UP... and a bunch of that is all machine-built. It seems like there’s just builders who make boring trails. It’s so great to be in an area where that doesn’t seem to be a problem at all.
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Sep 18, 2020 05:06
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vote_no posted:Also, I’ve looked at videos of particular Whistler trails and thought “It’s just switchbacks over and over again? Seems boring.” Areas in Whistler like creekside do have 3-4 trails which are basically just machine built smooth runs with big berms cutting back and forth. The other machine cut trails (A-Line, Dirt Merchant, others) provide a series of very interesting features like drops and huge jumps that allow you to progress as you get more used to the trail. There is very rarely a time when you're riding Whistler that you can't see the next interesting thing coming up.
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Sep 18, 2020 05:27
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n8r posted:Machine built sucks. Flow sucks.
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Sep 18, 2020 08:16
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mAlfunkti0n posted:Rode a modern geometry frame for the first time today. Soooo glad I swapped that goofy bikes direct frame for the ragley Marley another goon found. Where are the picssss?
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Sep 18, 2020 12:30
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Sep 18, 2020 17:23
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Noice. I was planning on doing the same soon butkimbo305 posted:I spent 3.5h putting on Cushcores and tires the front tire's wobble is way too much for me to bear looking at on the road, so gonna have to try again after my hands and forearms are rested up.
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Sep 18, 2020 17:45
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Hnnnnnnng 
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Sep 18, 2020 21:26
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n8r posted:Machine built trails are too wide and too smooth. Flow us fun for about two corners then I want a different kind of corner after that. guess you'll just have to make a pilgrimage to the midwest and see whats up we have such sights to show you
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Sep 18, 2020 22:08
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Spime Wrangler posted:guess you'll just have to make a pilgrimage to the midwest and see whats up Yes I should leave a place full of actual mountains to ride in a place where people ski on garbage piles.
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Sep 18, 2020 22:18
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Sorry he's right hand cut done right is better than good machine cut even if good machine cut is better than bad hand built. Not needing to go wide enough for a digger or having the same tread durability or camber requirements opens up a lot of really neat options. Like the majority of what I ride is machine built and really good, but the couple of hand cut ones are better and wouldn't be possible with a digger.
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Sep 18, 2020 22:19
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n8r posted:Yes I should leave a place full of actual mountains to ride in a place where people ski on garbage piles. I grew up in Northern CA and moved to Virginia many years ago and the things they try to pass as mountains out here are pretty cute.
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Sep 18, 2020 22:22
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your easy elevation has left you with trails that squander precious potential energy we husband each joule jealously, guarded against waste, maximizing its shredding potential, inventing entire new realms of thought to humbly make our poo poo seriously next level
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Sep 18, 2020 22:34
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Boogalo posted:I grew up in Northern CA and moved to Virginia many years ago and the things they try to pass as mountains out here are pretty cute. I moved to Northern California from Colorado and the things they call mountains and high altitude are downright adorable. “Tahoe is so high up!” at 6200ft 
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Sep 18, 2020 22:43
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Spime Wrangler posted:guess you'll just have to make a pilgrimage to the midwest and see whats up Please direct my indiana rear end to places.
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Sep 18, 2020 22:46
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e.pilot posted:I moved to Northern California from Colorado and the things they call mountains and high altitude are downright adorable. Ignoring whether or not you can MTB those areas, CA mountains are legit, there's plenty of high altitude peaks and wilderness  e: I mean if nothing else there's Mammoth Mountain bike park that's up close to 11k Levitate fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Sep 18, 2020 |
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Sep 18, 2020 22:56
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OhsH posted:Please direct my indiana rear end to places. NW Arkansas or the Lake Superior shore are the places I can personally vouch for. Not right on your doorstep but there's a ton happening everywhere though and I'm sure there's a ton of diamonds to be found. I've heard really good things about the Griffin bike park in Terre Haute, for example, but haven't ridden it.
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Sep 18, 2020 23:04
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All i know is brown county, griffin, and dte energy trails, im up northern indiana, copper harbor is 10 hour drive that'll probably happen next year.
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Sep 18, 2020 23:10
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Nocheez posted:Have you tried contacting them directly? With my Osprey packs have needed new fiddly bits they've usually sent one right over. That's a good idea, thanks. I'll see if I can reach them.
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Sep 18, 2020 23:21
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OhsH posted:All i know is brown county, griffin, and dte energy trails, im up northern indiana, copper harbor is 10 hour drive that'll probably happen next year. Scope trailforks: if you're doing that much mileage to get to DTE or Brown County there's a number of other systems that might be worth checking out if only to see how they ride. Probably going to have to put in the hours though if you want something bigger. https://www.trailforks.com/trails/map/?activitytype=1&z=6.3&lat=41.89483&lon=-84.75375
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Sep 18, 2020 23:23
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My brother and I were comparing Strava stats for the year (he does mainly road riding with a $300 bike in Florida) and laughed so hard to discover that I had only 1 more mile than him. Then we checked elevation and I was at 34.2k feet to his 3.7k. It's fun to show up your older, more athletic brothers 
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Sep 18, 2020 23:26
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Suburban Dad posted:Geometry is pretty dated and reach is super short and has a steepish head angle at 69 dungarees. Super narrow handlebars too. It's definitely an xc bike but that sounds like what you want honestly. Some of the component choices and specs are vague so it's hard to tell much. I have no idea why there's an XT derailleur on that bike, it seems very out of place. very late reply, but thanks for this reply! I looked around a bit more and spent some more cash for a more modern geometry. Also full suspension, because most HT's sold around here have similar dated geometries; and most bikes that caught my interest were sold out or had 5+ months delivery times. This guy is on it's way now:  info here
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Sep 18, 2020 23:36
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OhsH posted:All i know is brown county, griffin, and dte energy trails, im up northern indiana, copper harbor is 10 hour drive that'll probably happen next year. Fort Custer is cool (but horses), Cannonsburg ski hill, cannonsburg state game area, Luton park (last 3 up in GR). Yankee Springs is good. If you are willing to go to DTE you should go check out all of those.
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Sep 19, 2020 00:52
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Cool, thank you for the info.
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Sep 19, 2020 01:02
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Finally got my fork decals in and dropper on. Went straight to the jump park and blew a tire off the rim.  
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Sep 19, 2020 17:12
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It sucks, but it's still cool to see bikes ridden hard.
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Sep 19, 2020 17:43
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Bike looks sweet. Just need some green pedals to match the grips and seat accent.
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Sep 19, 2020 20:46
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n8r posted:Machine built sucks. Flow sucks. 
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Sep 20, 2020 14:10
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As someone who lives where there’s very little legal single track I’d kill for some flow trails or machine built trails to ride on sometimes
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Sep 20, 2020 22:11
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Levitate posted:As someone who lives where there’s very little legal single track I’d kill for some flow trails or machine built trails to ride on sometimes I built this just 4 u levitate  This one picture shows more elevation than in the entire state of Michigan so plz b careful thatguy fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Sep 20, 2020 22:44
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I gots plenty of elevation just few mtb designed trails 
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Sep 21, 2020 00:18
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thatguy posted:I built this just 4 u levitate Fightin' words.
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Sep 21, 2020 00:30
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Flow rules, tech rules, mtb rules. It's all good.
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Sep 21, 2020 09:34
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N8r is the personality of a roadie injected into a mountain biker. It’s a sad thing. All trails are good boys.
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Sep 21, 2020 15:03
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thatguy posted:I built this just 4 u levitate This is the longest stretch of singletrack I've seen without rocks or roots. It's beautiful.
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Sep 21, 2020 15:45
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I tore off the dork disk this weekend not because it looked bad but because it kept coming loose from its clips and rattling because I'm riding too hard I guess.
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Sep 21, 2020 16:25
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The best trails are ones with good views along the way. My favorite thing is to see a spot on the top of a farawayhill on the horizon and say, "I'm going to be standing there in 2 hours" and then doing it.
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Nocheez posted:The best trails are ones with good views along the way. My favorite thing is to see a spot on the top of a farawayhill on the horizon and say, "I'm going to be standing there in 2 hours" and then doing it.
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