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MarcusSA posted:Yeah... that’s the part that threw me a bit. He legit offered to drive them. Starlight needed to use his cars electricity to cauterize Hughies wound. This would have immediately blown her cover. Additionally, the dude could've recognised Butcher during the car ride. Taking the lift wasn't an option. Hughie probably would've died on the trip. Also while the whole situation was hosed I found the irony of one concealed carry owner would jump to conclusions about another. Sorta feeds into the feeling America gives where every gun owner thinks they're the one good one, at least from a foreigners perspective
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StashAugustine posted:yeah im not sure letting him drive a rogue superhero, wanted terrorist, and guy dying of internal bleeding would be a good idea Oh word then they should just kill an innocent man that makes way more sense
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Sep 27, 2020 00:31
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piL posted:I dont think its appropriate for the story, so I hope they don't do it, but at some point I thought: what if Stormfront's power is power absorption through killing supes, and she's grooming Homelander for lunch and the super secret objectives Vought is transhumanism via consumption. (galaxy brain) transhuman ascendancy via interdimensional auto-homicide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VwRKLp1Gk0 want to also echo how pleased I am that The Canonical Best Character is also bi, bless u The Boys
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Sep 27, 2020 00:32
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The Deep is bi?
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Sep 27, 2020 00:34
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Bust Rodd posted:Oh word then they should just kill an innocent man that makes way more sense it was a good learning opportunity, don't pull a gun unless ur gonna start blasting. his fault honestly
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Sep 27, 2020 00:37
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boo_radley posted:(galaxy brain) transhuman ascendancy via interdimensional auto-homicide I was thinking Vampire the Masquerade, but I'll take it.
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Sep 27, 2020 00:39
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Hey guys I think Homelander might be an allegory for American imperialism! But if that were the case why would he so directly and passionately embrace fascist and racist ideology?!?
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Sep 27, 2020 00:43
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:The Deep is bi? the Deep has a very focused and powerful himbro energy. He is a cocksman ne plus ultra. His libido will ultimately be the downfall of the Collective and he will listen be aware of it.
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Sep 27, 2020 00:46
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Homelander squishing that crackhead's skull like a panini just to get off was the kind of darkness that this show has always been building towards but it was still hard to watch. I like Aya Cash as an actress a whole bunch but I loathe Storefront.
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Sep 27, 2020 01:08
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Tom Tucker posted:Hey guys I think Homelander might be an allegory for American imperialism! But if that were the case why would he so directly and passionately embrace fascist and racist ideology?!? I'm something of a history buff, a wonk if you will, and it just doesn't make any sense.
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Sep 27, 2020 01:08
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Butcher escalating things to the point where someone unnecessarily dies is the entire point, hence the earlier confrontation with Starlight where she compares him to Homelander, and the scene with his wife, and the scene where he starts a random fight at a nightclub and hospitalizes a dude (in the best case scenario) just to feel something. That's the basic gist of the character and the reason why Hughie being his "canary" is important - Butcher's entire arc is one big "stare too long into the abyss" moment that he seems to mostly be losing himself to. There were a dozen ways they could have avoided killing that guy and probably even handled the situation faster and with less risk to Hughie, but Butcher didn't want to. Not only that, he's clearly a corrupting influence, which is why Starlight tries to call him out for quietly approving of her actions and why everyone in Butcher's orbit wanted nothing to do with him at first. There's a good scene in season 1 where MM calls him out for putting people in danger in the name of his own revenge - he says something like "last time it was Mallory's family, but this time it would be my family". Butcher talks about Supes seeing humans like insects but everyone else is just as disposable to him as they are to Homelander.
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Sep 27, 2020 01:28
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spacetoaster posted:Pretty sure he didn't go grab the gun out of his glovebox until Butcher, blatantly lying about being FBI, shows him his gun. At this point he could make an educated guess that these people are going to murder him on the side of a back country road. I don't think the writers would have put in the line about "stand your ground" if all we were meant to take away is that a poor innocent bloke got killed despite doing everything right. "Stand your ground" is all about not backing down from a confrontation even if you have the means to, and using deadly force instead. It's basically drawing attention to the fact that he could have retreated/given up his Hyundai but he was going to kill Butcher instead. Which I think feeds into why Starlight doesn't necessarily feel much sympathy for the guy later. Of course Butcher almost seemed like he was trying to handle the situation badly with the obvious lies/attitude. Maybe he knew Starlight would step in and wanted to push her into action? Either way it's a really well done scene, whether your take is that it just reinforces how morally dubious our heroes are or if it has some wider message about people thinking violence will solve their problems (and specifically, being told that by politicians/leaders).
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Sep 27, 2020 01:56
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Loreal for kids, strawberry cream. I seen the bottle. Hateful poo poo.
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Sep 27, 2020 02:18
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Bust Rodd posted:I like Aya Cash as an actress a whole bunch but I loathe Storefront. 
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Sep 27, 2020 02:21
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Has Starlight done any, uh, super heroing for the 7? I don't remember her being on any sort of mission.
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Sep 27, 2020 02:28
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she was at the docks with Deep in season 1.v Did some light vigilante with while walking in an alley, too
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Sep 27, 2020 02:30
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BurritoJustice posted:Starlight needed to use his cars electricity to cauterize Hughies wound. This would have immediately blown her cover. Additionally, the dude could've recognised Butcher during the car ride. Yeah it was definitely a riff on American gun culture and the assumption that "the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun", the hosed nature of SYG laws, etc. But it also demonstrated that Starlight is on a slippery slope as much as anyone else in Butcher's orbit - not only because of him provoking their proclivity towards violence to save those they care about (obviously an running theme in his interactions with the Boys and something that got inverted on him when he tried to spring Becca and Kid HL) but also how charming and congenial he can be when he wants to (the nice little bonding moment between him and Starlight in the hospital). The latter didn't read as romantic to me at all, it was obviously Butcher's big brother like affection for Hughie coming through and Starlight needing to connect to someone in a human way to recenter herself after murking a dude. Speaking of, Starlight is super strong right? She manhandled Hughie in S1 like it was nothing when he confessed to her in Central Park and she can obviously take a bullet, so I was expecting her to just grab the guy and stuff him in the trunk or something, not go full lite brite on him. Heat of the moment I suppose. Good episode overall. I loved the moment between Butcher and Kimiko watching the Stormfront & Homelander promo thing, really dug the background on Frenchie as well as his interactions with Kimiko, Homelander acting like a latent incel who falls bass ackwards into a relationship (with the attendant high school shooter-esque breakdown), Iceman was great in his supporting stuff, just great stuff all around. I didn't really buy A-train getting duped into the cult - feels like he's smart enough to see where that goes and even if he is broke it's better to be broke and free than beholden to loonies. Curious to see how that plays out. Maeve's storyline felt very rushed, probably could've used another episode or two to establish her and Elena navigating their sudden public relationship before dropping the bomb like that. If Stormfront and Homelander are going along with their supe army plan, then it makes sense that Edgar would let the Boys run around and also let Starlight help them - there's no way he doesn't know about what both sides are up to and setting up the Boys as terrorists who are good at either killing or flipping supes could give Vought more leverage to ramp up supe production. Speaking of which, there are supposed to be supe terrorists all over the world, what happened with that plotline? We've seen 3 (the Middle Eastern exploding guy, Kimiko's brother, and the African guy that HL lasered) but I imagine there would be more than just Maeve and Black Noir can clean up alone. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Sep 27, 2020 02:34
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The guy flinches right before Starlight murks him, it seems like he is preparing to shoot and she's reacting to that
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Sep 27, 2020 02:40
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Bust Rodd posted:
well i am bi and trans, and i'm telling you that this is terribly handled, and completely took me out of the episode. it is exactly the type of transphobic bullshit that's been on tv and film for years and years and i expect better in the year 2020. like, i'm stoked that you're happy about bi representation because i am too, it's so rare, but as i said previously, the fact he wants trans strippers is not evidence of him being bi, trans women are women and the men attracted to us in a lot of cases are boring old straight guys (just like cis women), only they feel ashamed of it because of poo poo-house jokes like this. i have dealt with the real life implications of this, and it is awful and dangerous. if the beginning and end of your transgender representation is as a punchline to a joke about trans women sex workers that carries the implication that attraction to us is ~exotic~ or makes you in any way not straight, it's transphobic as gently caress, and it's not any different to the media representation that's been happening for years and years that we are a) 'really' men pretending or b) exoticised freaks. side note: the 'with or without nuts' line sucks - tons of trans women including sex workers don't have 'nuts'
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Sep 27, 2020 02:41
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The A Train song at the end is so perfectly generic and lame and believable.
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Sep 27, 2020 02:58
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jabby posted:EDIT: Slightly disappointed Butcher couldn't handle it like he handles a gun pointed at him in the comic (takes the gun, crumples it up in his V-enhanced fist, and says "Glock's a wanker's gun, son". Really? That sounds awful.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:01
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thrawn527 posted:Really? That sounds awful. That's how you know it's from the comic
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Sep 27, 2020 03:05
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Grem posted:Has Starlight done any, uh, super heroing for the 7? I don't remember her being on any sort of mission. In season 1 there's a plotline about her planning to go out on patrol like she used to do in her hometown, and then being given a schedule by Vought that lays out every single crime she will just so happen to encounter that night and prevent. The entire thing is stage-managed even if the criminals are real (Vought just doesn't share the intelligence it gathers with the police force), and the one time she jumps in on her own to attack a couple guys assaulting a woman it gets her in a shitload of trouble for putting Vought in danger of a lawsuit.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:17
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Idg why Huey was telling Starlight to shut up when she was giving BB the business. It’s not like he didn’t have it coming, or that Billy could have done poo poo to her. Stand by your woman Huey.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:25
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Hey if y'all like Aya Cash, in addition to You're The Worst (which has been mentioned before) she's the lead in a semi-horror-semi-comedy film called Scare Me which comes out on the streaming service Shudder on October 1. It's hilarious and delightful, and I don't even really like horror movies.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:29
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Some people are. I assume it will be whatever the writers need it to be. It's a publically traded company after all. Personally I'll assume that she has some shares, but doesn't have the majority of them. I trust the show will address it and why Mr Edgar put her on The Seven later. There's no way she doesn't have controlling interest. Like someone else said, Edgar didn't put her on the 7. She put herself there. quote:Why would she wait so long to start trying to manipulate Homelander if she was in charge this whole time? Stormfront stopped being Liberty because she wanted to spend time with her daughter. After her daughter died she took time to reinvent herself as Stormfront. Bedshaped posted:Watching Cobra Kai alongside The Boys and it just dawned on me now that Stillwell is Ali from The Karate Kid. She's also the babysitter from Adventures in Babysitting. That's right. All those years ago Stillwell sang The Babysittin' Blues.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:29
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Vintersorg posted:It took a bit for it to cut too - just sustained where as the bullet bounces off on its one tick. Didn't someone here post you can stab thru kevlar? You can shoot through Kevlar too; just like in chemistry the "how much" is as important as the what. Most modern Kevlar vests are highly stab and cut-resistant.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:54
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:The Deep is bi? ... I just figured he was a slut Edit: ... pan, I think? He's just generally down to clown
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Sep 27, 2020 03:55
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Defiance Industries posted:Homelander dropping "MY GIRLFRIEND" in there. He is a true Goon at heart. Can The Boys make a printer so heavy that even Homelander can't carry it?
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Sep 27, 2020 03:56
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BrotherJayne posted:... I just figured he was a slut Ugh, pretty messy bi stereotype mate BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Sep 27, 2020 04:06
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Breakfast Burrito posted:well i am bi and trans, and i'm telling you that this is terribly handled, and completely took me out of the episode. it is exactly the type of transphobic bullshit that's been on tv and film for years and years and i expect better in the year 2020. This is basically what I was putting my thoughts together to say. "<x> is bi because they're attracted to trans people" is a garbage stereotype, and believe it or not reducing a trans person their genitals is not at all flattering. It's sideshow poo poo and by now writers should know better.
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Sep 27, 2020 04:23
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Serge is a really interesting character. This episode did a whole lot to take him back from mooning over Kimmy for a long time. A train knows that he’s in the cult, but if he’s not lying about his promotional deals, they’re clearly blackmailing him.
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Sep 27, 2020 04:29
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Golden Bee posted:Serge is a really interesting character. This episode did a whole lot to take him back from mooning over Kimmy for a long time. Who are Serge and Kimmy?
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Sep 27, 2020 04:33
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Who are Serge and Kimmy?
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Sep 27, 2020 04:35
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Who are Serge and Kimmy? Frenchie and Kimiko.
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Sep 27, 2020 04:35
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BurritoJustice posted:Ugh, pretty messy bi stereotype mate He has the personality of a male dolphin and the sexual preferences of a drake.
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Sep 27, 2020 04:44
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You guys are big ol doofuses if you really call them Serge and Kimmy and not Frenchie and Kimiko lol
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Sep 27, 2020 04:53
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Of course the Deep is bi. Kevin is down for anything, be it human or fish. I don't really have an opinion on the trans joke, but maybe look at it in the perspective that it was supposed to be 8 years ago, and people weren't as woke back then?
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Sep 27, 2020 04:56
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Finally got to watch the episode, I'm still calling Cindy Tetsuo. And I hope we get an orbital cannon taking shots at Homelander at some point.
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Elephant Ambush posted:She's also the babysitter from Adventures in Babysitting. That's right. All those years ago Stillwell sang The Babysittin' Blues. And she had to deal with children that thought they were super heroes, calling it a prequel
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