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Was it really a question of physical reliability or obsolescence?
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# ? Sep 24, 2020 17:44 |
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I just upgraded my case to a Fractal Meshify, and upgraded my CPU cooler to a Corsair H100 pro. I'm now running into rather high GPU temps. The front of the case is 3 120mm intake fans, and the back has one 120mm exhaust. The 240mm CPU radiator is intake on top, so I'm wondering if its too much intake, and not enough air flowing over the GPU, MSI GTX 970 Gold. Destiny 2 was getting it to 80-85C the other night, with ambient in the 70-75F range. Corsair's recommendation is that the radiator will function better as an intake, but I'm wondering if in this situation it makes more sense for it to be an exhaust. It would probably increase CPU temps, as the air would be hotter, but I should have room on that now. Thoughts? The heatsink on the gpu was cleaned of dust when I had the case apart, so it wouldn't be that.
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# ? Sep 25, 2020 02:49 |
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Update on the whole Thunderbolt KVM thing: I had gotten my mittens on a RTX 2070 that had a Thunderbolt 3 port. It turned out it was more of a 2.75 slot than a 2 slot card as advertised. I would not fit in my case unless the case pressed right up against the cooling fans. So it turned out to just be a no-go all around. I can't see getting an alternative card at any decent price when I'm content with my Radeon RX480 otherwise. So I think I'm just backing out of the whole thing with docking to a Thunderbolt dock and routing through a Type-C Thunderbolt-rated KVM.
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# ? Sep 25, 2020 08:13 |
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Heavy Metal posted:My quick question, how long has my computer got left? Or just a guess on a couple of the components. Was built in 2012 over 8 years ago, still has most of the original stuff. No problems or anything. An additional note - have you been making sure to clean it semi-regularly? If you have dust built up from 2012 in there it'll probably affect some of the stuff other people said.
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# ? Sep 25, 2020 16:31 |
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I have a quick ram question. I just installed another 16gb of ram into my PC and I just want to make sure it is going to be ok over the long term. My older Ram is 1200mhz so obv the system is going to run all 4 stick at that. I just want to make sure what I'm seeing in CPUZ won't be an issue.
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# ? Sep 26, 2020 00:51 |
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MarcusSA posted:I have a quick ram question. I just installed another 16gb of ram into my PC and I just want to make sure it is going to be ok over the long term. My older Ram is 1200mhz so obv the system is going to run all 4 stick at that. I just want to make sure what I'm seeing in CPUZ won't be an issue. As long as you aren't getting application crashes/kernel panics and it passes a good memory test its fine. You could maybe tighten up the timings a bit to 16-16-16 since all the sticks should be able to handle it at that frequency, but honestly if it already works it probably isn't worth messing with it. The difference between running 2400 MHz ram and 3600 MHz ram or 1 tick lower latency is going to be a hell of a lot smaller than the difference between running out of RAM and not running out of RAM. Of course that is if you actually need 32 GB, but at the very least it isn't any slower than it was before so nothing to worry about.
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# ? Sep 26, 2020 02:56 |
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Indiana_Krom posted:As long as you aren't getting application crashes/kernel panics and it passes a good memory test its fine. You could maybe tighten up the timings a bit to 16-16-16 since all the sticks should be able to handle it at that frequency, but honestly if it already works it probably isn't worth messing with it. The difference between running 2400 MHz ram and 3600 MHz ram or 1 tick lower latency is going to be a hell of a lot smaller than the difference between running out of RAM and not running out of RAM. Of course that is if you actually need 32 GB, but at the very least it isn't any slower than it was before so nothing to worry about. OK thanks so far so good! What is a good memory test to run?
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# ? Sep 26, 2020 03:15 |
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Sarcastro posted:An additional note - have you been making sure to clean it semi-regularly? If you have dust built up from 2012 in there it'll probably affect some of the stuff other people said. Good call, I should remember to do that more. Been years, mine didn't seem to get that much dust, but I'll get that compressed air going yes indeed.
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# ? Sep 26, 2020 06:45 |
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I shuffled around some gear and I’ve got a few years old Cyberpower CST135XLU (1350VA/810w) UPS, and I’m trying to use it with my desktop (650w psu). The battery backup works for very small things like a network switch, but doing the self test with the computer it just immediately cuts power. Even trying just my monitor on it seems to kill it. The power panel software and the little LCD display says the batteries are still good. Would this be something wrong with the unit or are the batteries actually shot? I thought maybe I was overloading it but that it can’t even keep the monitor on seems sus. And it’s not just a short runtime it’s an immediate cutoff.
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# ? Sep 27, 2020 23:28 |
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The Milkman posted:I shuffled around some gear and I’ve got a few years old Cyberpower CST135XLU (1350VA/810w) UPS, and I’m trying to use it with my desktop (650w psu). The battery backup works for very small things like a network switch, but doing the self test with the computer it just immediately cuts power. Even trying just my monitor on it seems to kill it. The power panel software and the little LCD display says the batteries are still good. Would this be something wrong with the unit or are the batteries actually shot?
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# ? Sep 27, 2020 23:43 |
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Indiana_Krom posted:While it is possible something else is wrong, that behavior is quite typical of failed batteries. The self testing/monitoring is far from an exact science so not unusual for them to still read healthy even if they have close to zero remaining capacity. Alright, that’s what I figured. Just wanted to ask before I bought batteries when I actually needed a newer/nonbroken/bigger unit. The APC units I have weren’t shy about letting me know when they needed new batteries 🔊
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# ? Sep 27, 2020 23:55 |
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The Milkman posted:Alright, that’s what I figured. Just wanted to ask before I bought batteries when I actually needed a newer/nonbroken/bigger unit. Got any 12v DC fans you can alligator clip to some battery terminals if you *really* want to be sure? 15-20w worth of 120mm fans (say 4 of them) will usually give you enough load to immediately tell from the sound if one of those SLA batteries is dead.
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# ? Sep 27, 2020 23:59 |
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The Milkman posted:Alright, that’s what I figured. Just wanted to ask before I bought batteries when I actually needed a newer/nonbroken/bigger unit. Hey I’ve got a cyber power unit that looks like it’s failed the same way. How much are the batteries for these things? I didn’t pay much for the unit in the first place.
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# ? Sep 28, 2020 00:04 |
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Indiana_Krom posted:Got any 12v DC fans you can alligator clip to some battery terminals if you *really* want to be sure? 15-20w worth of 120mm fans (say 4 of them) will usually give you enough load to immediately tell from the sound if one of those SLA batteries is dead. Nah, don’t have anything like that I don’t think. MarcusSA posted:Hey I’ve got a cyber power unit that looks like it’s failed the same way. For mine, $95 from Cyberpower, $77 through Amazon and others
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# ? Sep 28, 2020 00:16 |
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MarcusSA posted:Hey I’ve got a cyber power unit that looks like it’s failed the same way. Usually around $18-25 each shipped. The bigger UPSes use two batteries and sometimes you can get two packs for a little cheaper. I picked this two pack up for $37.99 earlier this year for a couple of my smaller UPSes and they've been fine although I haven't had them very long: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WRXR223/
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# ? Sep 28, 2020 00:16 |
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Rexxed posted:Usually around $18-25 each shipped. The bigger UPSes use two batteries and sometimes you can get two packs for a little cheaper. I picked this two pack up for $37.99 earlier this year for a couple of my smaller UPSes and they've been fine although I haven't had them very long: Ah ok that's not bad then. I'll just order these then. Glad I don't have to toss the whole unit.
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# ? Sep 28, 2020 00:21 |
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MarcusSA posted:Ah ok that's not bad then. I'll just order these then. Glad I don't have to toss the whole unit. Yeah, it's almost always worth buying your own individual sealed batteries. The ones from the manufacturer are usually a rip off. APC in particular sells a battery cartridge which is just two batteries taped onto an adapter that they plug into that gives a proprietary plug for the UPS. You can just cut the tape/sticker, replace the batteries, and put a little packing tape back on the sides. It's almost never worth going with the manufacturer battery unless you can't find anything else.
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# ? Sep 28, 2020 00:26 |
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Speaking of which, I have a UPS that’s screaming at me so I figured the battery was dead. Pulled the battery and tested with my multimeter and it still reads a full voltage charge. Is the UPS dead and the battery is fine or am I just measuring something wrong?
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# ? Sep 28, 2020 01:01 |
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FCKGW posted:Speaking of which, I have a UPS that’s screaming at me so I figured the battery was dead. Pulled the battery and tested with my multimeter and it still reads a full voltage charge. Is the UPS dead and the battery is fine or am I just measuring something wrong? Hard to say, it could be either. Does the battery voltage drop quickly if you use it for something (like the fans mentioned above)? If not then it could be the UPS or even just the terminals connecting the battery. I had the battery in my FiOS network terminal box disconnect because their terminal was loose but I was able to bend it back into shape.
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# ? Sep 28, 2020 01:52 |
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Yeah the battery can show fine till you put it under a load and then it crashes.
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# ? Sep 28, 2020 01:56 |
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FCKGW posted:Speaking of which, I have a UPS that’s screaming at me so I figured the battery was dead. Pulled the battery and tested with my multimeter and it still reads a full voltage charge. Is the UPS dead and the battery is fine or am I just measuring something wrong?
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# ? Sep 28, 2020 02:00 |
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I peeled the sticker off one of my APC batteries and it had the original manufacturer underneath, lol. Searched it out and found it. Anyways they last 3-5 years or so. Probably varies how often they've been drained.
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 08:27 |
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Usage and operating temperature are the main reasons why lead acid batteries degrade. APC claims thatAPC posted:The optimum operating temperature for a lead-acid battery is 20-25° C (68-77° F). Elevated temperature reduces longevity. As a guideline, every 8° C (15° F) rise in temperature will cut the battery life in half.
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 09:23 |
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gently caress me I guess
wormil fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Oct 1, 2020 |
# ? Sep 29, 2020 18:04 |
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How long does a power supply typically last? My buddy had his pc hard shut down last night and while talking to me about it let it slip that his PSU is 7+ years old.
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 18:14 |
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Rolo posted:How long does a power supply typically last? My buddy had his pc hard shut down last night and while talking to me about it let it slip that his PSU is 7+ years old. Look at the manufacturer warranty and multiply that by your risk tolerance. Most are only rated for a few years, and can survive for a few years after that.
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 18:16 |
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Rolo posted:How long does a power supply typically last? My buddy had his pc hard shut down last night and while talking to me about it let it slip that his PSU is 7+ years old. I think the general wisdom is to use it as long as the warranty lasts. Beyond that, you're running it on borrowed time. Really good power supplies come with a 7-10 year warranty, so he's probably right in that range. Hard shutdowns usually are a power problem, so it's where I'd look first too.
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 18:18 |
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Charles posted:I peeled the sticker off one of my APC batteries and it had the original manufacturer underneath, lol. Searched it out and found it. Anyways they last 3-5 years or so. Probably varies how often they've been drained. I don't think it even matters who the manufacturer was, they are just bog standard sealed lead batteries, no intelligence, chips or any kind of sensors. For curiosity I googled what kind of battery the OP's UPS has and the pictures looked exactly like the batteries we use in glider planes. Measure the size of the battery, look what kind of terminals it has and then find a replacement in your local electronics or car parts store.
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 19:46 |
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Vir posted:Usage and operating temperature are the main reasons why lead acid batteries degrade. APC claims that I have a UPS in my attic which gets to 140F and it's not good on those batteries! I need to get a POE powered switch or something.
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 20:09 |
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FCKGW posted:I have a UPS in my attic which gets to 140F and it's not good on those batteries! https://www.imca-int.com/alert/1572/near-miss-fire-explosion-thermal-runaway-lead-acid-battery/ Lead acid battery fires aren't as dramatic as LiPo fires, but if you need an UPS in the attic get a battery made for that temperature range. Edit: Even automotive AGM batteries are cutting it close with 140F, but at least they are made to work in hot engine bays, which regular sealed UPS batteries aren't. Vir fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Sep 29, 2020 |
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Saukkis posted:I don't think it even matters who the manufacturer was, they are just bog standard sealed lead batteries, no intelligence, chips or any kind of sensors. For curiosity I googled what kind of battery the OP's UPS has and the pictures looked exactly like the batteries we use in glider planes. Measure the size of the battery, look what kind of terminals it has and then find a replacement in your local electronics or car parts store. I know, I usually use whatever I find, but it was the same $20-25 price as all the other ones. That same size was used in lots of 90s security systems. Maybe they still are. Both my APC and Cyberpower use F2 terminals, which are the wider ones.
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 20:32 |
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Vir posted:That is straight up fire hazard, especially if it's a multi-cell battery. At least they won't explode, because they have a vent which will release sulfuric gas, but boiling lead acid batteries can cause thermal runaway, shorts and fires. Get that poo poo out of your attic space and move it to an occupied space where you can keep an eye on it. Well I killed the last one so there's nothing up there at the moment as it is, so that's good news. This is only for some IP cameras so it was a cheap $30 Cyberpower but I think since I'm redoing my network anyways I'm going to spring for a POE powered switch and tie it into my UPS in my network closet instead.
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# ? Sep 29, 2020 21:24 |
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I guess I've been lucky enough not to have to RMA a video card since I sent my Geforce 4 back to BFG, but is MSI's RMA process really bad, or is this industry standard now? Their quoted turn around time is 15 to 35 business days. 3 to 7 weeks?
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# ? Sep 30, 2020 00:25 |
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Triikan posted:I guess I've been lucky enough not to have to RMA a video card since I sent my Geforce 4 back to BFG, but is MSI's RMA process really bad, or is this industry standard now? Their quoted turn around time is 15 to 35 business days. 3 to 7 weeks?
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# ? Sep 30, 2020 00:28 |
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EVGA does cross shipping, for the next time you need to buy a card.
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# ? Sep 30, 2020 00:29 |
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future ghost posted:What card is it? They keep pretty limited RMA stock IIRC. When I had to RMA a couple cards with MSI they had a max turnaround of 2 weeks, but this was for AMD 290s so it's been awhile. Ventus 1660ti. I'm approaching two weeks now, so here's to hoping. VelociBacon posted:EVGA does cross shipping, for the next time you need to buy a card. Their standard RMA also states a turnaround time of 3 days upon receipt, which seems perfectly acceptable to me.
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# ? Sep 30, 2020 00:52 |
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I received my refurbed dell optiplex and it came with a wifi dongle. On it, my download rate is 26 mbps but on my 9 year old notebook my download rate is 98 mbps. The package of the dongle says I should get up to 150 mbps. What gives? edit: it's a usb 2.0 dongle in a 2.0 port
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# ? Sep 30, 2020 01:47 |
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Filthy Hans posted:I received my refurbed dell optiplex and it came with a wifi dongle. On it, my download rate is 26 mbps but on my 9 year old notebook my download rate is 98 mbps. The package of the dongle says I should get up to 150 mbps. What gives? Not to state the obvious but it’s connected to the 5ghz network right? Seems like maybe not.
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# ? Sep 30, 2020 01:52 |
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MarcusSA posted:Not to state the obvious but it’s connected to the 5ghz network right? Seems like maybe not. it is
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Is it right up next to the computer case? You might get better results if there isn't a huge metal box of interference right up next to it.
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