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RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Paper Lion posted:

idk what it is about re:zero but i cannot sit through it at all. it ticks similar cringe receptors as the office does. this is a bad thing, i hate the office. only managed to get through like 3 episodes of it because i have to pause it constantly and come back later. think it might just not be for me. bookworm sounds boring too and not really for me. keep in mind this is all coming from someone that was able to at least sit through that doom march isekai show a while ago. it wasnt good, but it was watchable. but very boring and slow. idk. might just have to watch log horizon season 1 again or something. or replay a .hack game. sorry to be a party pooper. if anyone has any other good recommendations i will try them.

Well if cringe is the problem then here's another terrible protagonist. But in the 'was an actual criminal beforehand' way instead of being a teenager with too much The Office cringe energy. Maybe he killed some people too? Who knows, it's not cringe though and that's the important part.

https://mangadex.org/title/43476/yakuza-reincarnation

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everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




the time that the horror elements of rezero were discussed in this thread did a good job at making sure I will never ever give rezero a chance.

like I'm sure it's not just like non-stop torture porn? but that's what the thread was selling it as.

everythingWasBees fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Oct 4, 2020

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




everythingWasBees posted:

the time that the horror elements of rezero were discussed in this thread did a good job at making sure I will never ever give rezero a chance.

like I'm sure it's not just like non-stop torture porn? but that's what the thread was selling it as.

It's Groundhog Day but the reset point is being murdered in a horrible gruesome Resident Evil way so yeah it's only for people who get off to violence just like Attack on Titan and most zombie media are for vore fetishists.

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
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I don’t think Subaru was even his by a truck crossing a street at the beginning, so he hosed that part up too.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

RareAcumen posted:

It's Groundhog Day but the reset point is being murdered in a horrible gruesome Resident Evil way so yeah it's only for people who get off to violence just like Attack on Titan and most zombie media are for vore fetishists.

uh, I think you accidentally revealed something about yourself if you think most zombie media is for vore fetishists.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




RareAcumen posted:

It's Groundhog Day but the reset point is being murdered in a horrible gruesome Resident Evil way so yeah it's only for people who get off to violence just like Attack on Titan and most zombie media are for vore fetishists.

Yeah like I'm not saying it was! But uh it was a bunch of posts going on and on about how awesome and gory and brutal all of it was, as a way to try to get people to watch the show. I'm sure the show is genuinely fine but it was such an incredibly poor sell it has made me want nothing to do with the series.

It's like if you tried to sell higurashi as "Oh man there's a show where these children get murdered in all sorts of horrific ways. It's like really gruesome, I really recommend it!" instead of, uh, the many reasons that higu is good.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




IShallRiseAgain posted:

uh, I think you accidentally revealed something about yourself if you think most zombie media is for vore fetishists.

I'm choosing to read that post as sarcasm.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




If it wasn't sarcasm what in the world are you going on about.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

everythingWasBees posted:

It's like if you tried to sell higurashi as "Oh man there's a show where these children get murdered in all sorts of horrific ways. It's like really gruesome, I really recommend it!" instead of, uh, the many reasons that higu is good.
That's actually a really good one to bring up because Re: Zero is a lot like Higurashi in that it's mostly a series of complex and well-executed puzzles/mysteries and people really overplay the gore.

If you liked Higurashi despite the gore you'd probably feel the same way about Re: Zero.

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.
Zombies have been a bunch of things, at first it was the slow creeping inevitability of death. Then it was the fear of the other, of people that are different from you taking over. Then it was about fantasizing about shooting your neighbors and people you dont like. Then it was about vore fetishism

A natural progression really

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
i've certainly read and watched much worse isekai stories than re:zero, but after a 3 ep test i decided it just isn't for me. i get that the format of the story is long setups leading to satisfying payoffs, but that long setup features a protagonist i dislike.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




My post is meaningless so here's another update for a manga I Am the Only One Who Knows This World Is a Game

everythingWasBees posted:

Yeah like I'm not saying it was! But uh it was a bunch of posts going on and on about how awesome and gory and brutal all of it was, as a way to try to get people to watch the show. I'm sure the show is genuinely fine but it was such an incredibly poor sell it has made me want nothing to do with the series.

It's like if you tried to sell higurashi as "Oh man there's a show where these children get murdered in all sorts of horrific ways. It's like really gruesome, I really recommend it!" instead of, uh, the many reasons that higu is good.

Yeah, I can see a very cynical person taking that as a plus, being annoyed that children are invincible in so many shows after Fallout made them invisible and indestructible but still rob you and holding a grudge about that for the rest of their life.

everythingWasBees posted:

I'm choosing to read that post as sarcasm.

Oh yeah it is, but I am still- bangs fist on table- absolutely adamant that Kirby is a game about vore and people just refuse to admit it for some reason.

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

i've certainly read and watched much worse isekai stories than re:zero, but after a 3 ep test i decided it just isn't for me. i get that the format of the story is long setups leading to satisfying payoffs, but that long setup features a protagonist i dislike.

Yeah that's fine, a lot of people gave up- and people in the future will as well- on Demon Slayer about 8 episodes in for the exact same reason. Everyone's got their limits and I don't hold that one against anyone. You gave it a shot and you didn't care for it, there's no harm in that.

RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Oct 4, 2020

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Sindai posted:

people really overplay the gore.
Now now, let's not get ahead of ourselves here, rezero is absurdly gory and fairly constantly so, so it's good to at least give people a heads up if nothing else. Subaru gets eviscerated multiple times, with his intestines all over the floor or drowns in his own blood after having his throat torn open(or worse!) at least three times an arc. The anime censors it a fair amount but the manga straight up shows that poo poo.

I highly recommend it!

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
:chloe:

It's one thing to give a content warning so people can make an informed decision but positioning that content as a selling point doesn't really help imo, at least considering you're currently in the thread for people who would rather not read gross poo poo. Like, read the room.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Everything Burrito posted:

:chloe:

It's one thing to give a content warning so people can make an informed decision but positioning that content as a selling point doesn't really help imo, at least considering you're currently in the thread for people who would rather not read gross poo poo. Like, read the room.

Considering that this is the Yakuza Reincarnation and Sword Dad recommendation room, I'm surprised that Re:Zero's the straw that broke the camel's back here. Like a chapter or two into the second one he's cleaving a dude's head in half.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
The "I highly recommend it" was a joke. I do think people should be forewarned if something's gonna have some real hosed up poo poo in it, like Re:Zero does.

RareAcumen posted:

Considering that this is the Yakuza Reincarnation and Sword Dad recommendation room, I'm surprised that Re:Zero's the straw that broke the camel's back here. Like a chapter or two into the second one he's cleaving a dude's head in half.
or these, yeah. Yakuza Reincarnation has a lot of grotesque dismemberment, Sword Dad has them just absolutely slaughter the poo poo out of slavers on multiple occasions. It doesn't mean they can't also be wholesome most of the time, but they can be really gruesome at the drop of a hat.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin
It’s almost like the “Wholesome” title is a misnomer and the thread should probably be renamed

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022

RareAcumen posted:

Considering that this is the Yakuza Reincarnation and Sword Dad recommendation room, I'm surprised that Re:Zero's the straw that broke the camel's back here. Like a chapter or two into the second one he's cleaving a dude's head in half.

I don't read either of those btw so I have no idea what kind of content they have.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
you goons are really weird sometimes, you know that?

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




RareAcumen posted:

Well if cringe is the problem then here's another terrible protagonist. But in the 'was an actual criminal beforehand' way instead of being a teenager with too much The Office cringe energy. Maybe he killed some people too? Who knows, it's not cringe though and that's the important part.

https://mangadex.org/title/43476/yakuza-reincarnation

thank you for the recommendation. i will keep an eye out if this ever gets adapted to an anime. i want to watch anime. not read manga. right now.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




thetoughestbean posted:

It’s almost like the “Wholesome” title is a misnomer and the thread should probably be renamed

"isekai but only the ones where the main character doesn't go around gathering slaves or isn't one of those revenge fantasies that end up getting people raped and stuff" Is unfortunately too long for a thread title

I had it as good before but then people complained

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




I mean like I read all of this garbage don't get me wrong I'm not trying to morally posture about it or anything, It's just the like four or five predecessor threads proved that it's impossible to discuss isekai in general for any significant period of time without the thread going to complete poo poo, and without all of the recommendations also being a bunch of stuff where the main character keeps slaves and poo poo which most people aren't comfortable with for pretty apparent reasons!

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




Captain Invictus posted:

Now now, let's not get ahead of ourselves here, rezero is absurdly gory and fairly constantly so, so it's good to at least give people a heads up if nothing else. Subaru gets eviscerated multiple times, with his intestines all over the floor or drowns in his own blood after having his throat torn open(or worse!) at least three times an arc. The anime censors it a fair amount but the manga straight up shows that poo poo.

I highly recommend it!

you have a series of posts where this wasn't a joke at all which was kind of what I was talking about as horrible sells that kind of made sure a lot of people would never read it

three of my favorite series are higurashi, dorohedoro, and f/sn, so a series having gore in it isn't really a problem by itself

everythingWasBees fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Oct 4, 2020

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

everythingWasBees posted:

you have a series of posts where this wasn't a joke at all which was kind of what I was talking about as horrible sells that kind of made sure a lot of people would never read it

three of my favorite series are higurashi, dorohedoro, and f/sn, so a series having gore in it isn't really a problem by itself
oh, when I was reading it for the first time and posting my reactions as I progressed through it, asking questions from people further in than I, etc? If you don't want to read the series, that's cool, it's a pretty brutal series at times so I can understand not wanting that.

nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!
there should be an isekai starring the kenkyo author, explaining their mysterious disappearance

ianmacdo
Oct 30, 2012

Galvanik posted:

I also could stand the main guy in Re:zero. In the two episodes I watched he did unfunny shtick, and was basically everything I dislike about isekai protagonists.

He gets less awful? Is there a specific episode does that happen in?

Yeah isn't there a multi episode him being a maid arc? I don't dropped out of that part. Only time it is good for the protagonist to be a maid is if it's a prelude to murding the nobels and that didn't look likely.

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



ianmacdo posted:

Yeah isn't there a multi episode him being a maid arc? I don't dropped out of that part. Only time it is good for the protagonist to be a maid is if it's a prelude to murding the nobels and that didn't look likely.

He got murdered by a maid repeatedly. Does that count?

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It
Isekai where goons end up in their favorite comics, sorry re :zero fans

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




everythingWasBees posted:

"isekai but only the ones where the main character doesn't go around gathering slaves or isn't one of those revenge fantasies that end up getting people raped and stuff" Is unfortunately too long for a thread title

I had it as good before but then people complained

Sorry man, people stop reading the OP fast on this website

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


ianmacdo posted:

Yeah isn't there a multi episode him being a maid arc? I don't dropped out of that part. Only time it is good for the protagonist to be a maid is if it's a prelude to murding the nobels and that didn't look likely.

Maybe keep watching.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

Maybe keep watching.

Nah, there's no way of knowing

Galvanik
Feb 28, 2013

Life is to short to waste on watching characters I don't like.

Nobody ever said he stops being a dingus so the trend of being really annoyed when he shows up will likely continue. Why waste time with something you don't enjoy?

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
a lot of subaru's character arc is him gradually becoming less of a dingus. these things take time.

the dingus remains lurking in the background even at the best of times, but he's leagues better at the end of the first season than he was at the start, that's for sure. Though he still occasionally colossally fucks up, like throwing an extremely public tantrum in front of every single political someone-who's-anyone and gets outright called on it in an extremely painful but necessary way. He's a dipshit, but he's not some power-tripping idiot like most isekai, he's super powerless and desperately tries to keep the people he loves safe as best he can in an insanely dangerous world.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




It would still be rad for someone to slap a dial in the back of a bad character's head and turn it from 'shithead' to 'saint' so they'd be tolerable immediately though.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost

everythingWasBees posted:

"isekai but only the ones where the main character doesn't go around gathering slaves or isn't one of those revenge fantasies that end up getting people raped and stuff" Is unfortunately too long for a thread title

I had it as good before but then people complained

"The Wholesome Isekai and VRMMO thread for people who hate slavery and misogyny".

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

Jackard posted:

Isekai where goons end up in their favorite comics, sorry re :zero fans

I'm utterly indecisive and can't settle on a single comic/manga that I think is my favorite so do I get some composite world or does fate roll a die and pick one for me?

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Hello, Bakarina Katarina likes books and made a new friend

https://mangadex.org/chapter/1057526

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
if you want an isekai story where the protagonist grows out of being completely worthless try 12 kingdoms

nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!
Isekai isn't a real genre so it's no surprise a lot of it won't appeal to people based on their tastes. If you hate gore or a cringey protagonist you won't like re: zero, if you don't like giant rpg stat blocks the spider isekai will be boring, if you don't care about fluffy comedy you won't like bakarina, if you can't read you won't like bookworm etc

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Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


Shokei Shoujo no Ikirumichi is about an assassin who targets people that get summoned into her world, but what happens when she falls in love with a mark she can't kill?

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