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OwlFancier posted:It wasn't initially a cheeseburger. Are you suggesting some sort of curdling process took place Or is this yet another "technically it's a smegmaburger" rant from ol' OwlFancier
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Bugsy posted:https://twitter.com/Marina_Sirtis/status/1313830892213657600 So, they're losing the 'softer' fans while consolidating the more extreme base? That reminds me of the snowball effect that Prester Jane had mentioned in the Authoritarians thread
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Doc Hawkins posted:you don't gently caress people in their blood
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Serperoth posted:So, they're losing the 'softer' fans while consolidating the more extreme base? That reminds me of the snowball effect that Prester Jane had mentioned in the Authoritarians thread Yeah for all the people that got REAL MAD about Prester Jane posting, her idea of compaction cycles has made understanding right wingers a lot easier.
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^^ Real Mad about Prester Jane posting ^^
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Prester Jane Was* Right *Also Still Is
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Captain Monkey posted:Yeah for all the people that got REAL MAD about Prester Jane posting, her idea of compaction cycles has made understanding right wingers a lot easier. It’s a very concise way of talking about what others have also observed/documented (Festinger et al. in When Prophecy Fails, for example).
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LordSaturn posted:Prester Jane Was* Right The poster that advocated murdering healthcare workers as a means of civil disobedience? I'm not sure I agree with you.
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1) I'd like to see where she said that 2) I didn't say she was right about everything
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PetraCore posted:I was taught that the advantage of a democracy was that you get to kick people out of ruling. The romanovs deserved it
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LordSaturn posted:1) I'd like to see where she said that Check her rap sheet, right at the start of the pandemic she advocated blockading PPE factories as a method of achieving revolution. I concede PJ has expressed ideas that make me Capitol-T think about stuff.
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Elviscat posted:The poster that advocated murdering healthcare workers as a means of civil disobedience? so, sidebar, but this bullshit is probably one of the biggest problems the left has: we've completely failed to figure out a solution to the Michio Kaku problem. if you're not familiar, Michio Kaku is a genius theoretical physicist who's one of the chief minds behind quantum mechanics existing, as a discipline. in his field, he is loving unimpeachable and you'd be an idiot to even try. however, Michio Kaku also likes to show up on Discovery Channel and History Channel programs that have nothing to do with theoretical physics and babble on about dinosaurs being part UFO or whatever the gently caress, so he can make beer money. the world has, by and large, resolved this by listening to Michio Kaku whenever he's talking about subatomic particles or quantum theory, and quietly ignoring him whenever he talks about things that aren't that. nobody's moving to have his name stripped from his theoretical physics papers because he went on Ancient Aliens and babbled about how UFOs totally built Stonehenge. the takeaway, generalized, is this: it is possible to have bad, dumb or uninformed opinions on some things, while still having good opinions or genuine insight on other unrelated things. for example, Prester Jane may or may not believe that you should murder EMTs as a means of civil disobedience. (i have never personally seen her say this, but it's being alleged, so i'll take it at face value for the purposes of this discussion.) if she does believe that, that's an insanely loving bad opinion and should probably be called out as such. however, it also has precisely jack and poo poo to do with her theories on how right-wing groups organize and operate, to the point where bringing it up in the latter context is almost a complete non-sequitur; using it as a reason to discount those theories doesn't make any sense.
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Captain Monkey posted:^^ Real Mad about Prester Jane posting ^^ I was a friend of hers before those loving threads made her already tenuous grip on reality start fraying because she got dozens of idiots saying how right she was about everything, even the dangerous and self-destructive stuff so more accurately i'm mad at posters like you. i feel really bad for her.
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StillFullyTerrible posted:you were two of the guys who encouraged that stuff weren't you I haven't even read the full thread yet, and it wasn't new when I first stumbled across it, so no. Sucks to hear about what's happened though.
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From the clearly didn't finish the show category. https://twitter.com/AgentTinsley/status/1314016965212602369?s=20
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StillFullyTerrible posted:I was a friend of hers before those loving threads made her already tenuous grip on reality start fraying because she got dozens of idiots saying how right she was about everything, even the dangerous and self-destructive stuff Really cool of you to put all of that on me because I said some of the things she talked about helped me think about right wing weirdos in a better and more concise way, and made a joking reference to the people that threw slurs and freak outs your ‘friend’s’ way every time she posted. Aaanyway.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Im by no means a fan of kamala harris (acab, eat poo poo d.a., etc) but lmao at trying to handwring n tutt tut over this poo poo Republicans are so much better at making me want to vote for the Democrats than the Democrats ever will be. It never even occurred to me Kamala saw the fly and decided not to mention it in a power play and I loving love the idea.
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Skwirl posted:From the clearly didn't finish the show category. https://mobile.twitter.com/AgentTinsley/status/1314019293483294721 Having said that I can totally imagine Harris massacring an entire population out of spite and hated while riding a dragon
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Having watched both debates its really made it clear that we are all living a shared delusion that politicians are anything other than demented and vile. How could anyone look at the participants of either debate, and come away with the impression of anything other than madness and corruption.
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Captain Monkey posted:Really cool of you to put all of that on me because I said some of the things she talked about helped me think about right wing weirdos in a better and more concise way, and made a joking reference to the people that threw slurs and freak outs your ‘friend’s’ way every time she posted. No I assumed you were one of them because you're just a generally terrible poster. My bad.
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Biplane posted:Having watched both debates its really made it clear that we are all living a shared delusion that politicians are anything other than demented and vile. How could anyone look at the participants of either debate, and come away with the impression of anything other than madness and corruption. Because the celebrification of politicians has turned much of America’s brains into soup.
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She spent a lot of time developing some sort of universal theory of authoritarian politics but I think her mental health issues caused quite a lot of problems.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Im by no means a fan of kamala harris (acab, eat poo poo d.a., etc) but lmao at trying to handwring n tutt tut over this poo poo If I believed this I'd just be disappointed she didn't make a bunch of fly jokes in her responses. It'd bug me.
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:so, sidebar, but this bullshit is probably one of the biggest problems the left has: we've completely failed to figure out a solution to the Michio Kaku problem. Let me know when this guy gets beyond theoretical work and does actual work
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I'm just saying if Kamala is riding a dragon around raining fire on Cleveland maybe it deserved it?
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oldpainless posted:Let me know when this guy gets beyond theoretical work and does actual work michio kaku paint my fence
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So the "every famous person ever is trans" conspiracy is utterly bizarre but what I'm stuck on at this particular moment is the fact that these people seem to think that trans people only ever date other trans people who are the opposite gender from themselves. And I know this is because they're conflating gender identity and sexual orientation, but the end result is a heterosexual relationship, just in a way that they've decided is "wrong." So not only is there a global conspiracy where all famous people ever are trans, the global conspiracy is also running a dating service. Also these doofuses are apparently unaware of the well established fact that fat men can have tits.
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Mak0rz posted:Who is Prester Jane? She grew up in a cult and was involved in a lot of weird poo poo as an adult that lead to a theory about how authoritarian groups operate. It was applied to the far right since it came out of D&D and was originally a way of explaining why the Republican party keeps getting more and more extreme, but you can see it play out in fandom circles too and she was working on trying to articulate that aspect at one point. She quit posting last summer because of frustration that had been building for years and the current political environment of the US is triggering in general. She still pops up on twitter. Also, she never advocated killing healthcare workers, or bombing PPE factories, she was advocating a general strike, which she's been doing for a long time, and suggested the PPE factories do something akin to when NHS doctors and nurses strike to draw attention to how poorly its getting distributed or something like that.
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Elviscat posted:Check her rap sheet, right at the start of the pandemic she advocated blockading PPE factories as a method of achieving revolution. I was willing to take this at face value, but then Best Korea told a conflicting story and I decided to look into it Triskelli posted:Idle thought, but what would it take to turn social distancing into a general strike? mod sassinator posted:How can you strike when you don't have a job anymore because it's closed down? (not sarcastic or smarmy answer, it's the sad truth) Prester Jane posted:Serious Answer: You+me+a crowd of people block all the entrances to a PPE factory and refuse to budge until our demands are met. she was literally describing the conditions of a general strike, but the same category of no-context fucklords that ruin anyone even slightly weird on this website apparently started describing it as "blockading PPE factories" and "holding workers hostage" to "achieve revolution"? (the hostage bit was from the thread linked above, the other two are things you said yourself) Elviscat, I hate to say it, but you're telling lies EDIT: vvv the difference is the context of it being an answer to the question "what does a general strike look like" LordSaturn has a new favorite as of 20:12 on Oct 8, 2020 |
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