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pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_r20_single_core-9

cinebench R20 single core

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ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

so is this still on 7nm? I'm trying to gauge whether we're going to get new low-end parts

It is.

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


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Lipstick Apathy
Intel is going to have to bend over backwards to make a single benchmark win, adobe on igpu is all they have now I think.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

lol $300 bucks for 6 cores and $450 for 8 cores

Intel make something better you shits

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

US Goons how do these prices compare to the 3000 series launch?

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Up $50 across the board

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
Hahahah that 5950x shits all over Intel. Hahahahaha

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Blah blah blah content creation and rendering workloads... Show the new Threadrippers.

Rabid Snake
Aug 6, 2004



drat I'm not liking the prices

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Rabid Snake posted:

drat I'm not liking the prices

they dont gotta sell it at discount

*bangs on table*
BIG NAVI BIG NAVI

is that poo poo gonna be any good

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Lisa, show the Threadrippers!

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Combat Pretzel posted:

Blah blah blah content creation and rendering workloads... Show the new Threadrippers.

I would be very surprised if they announce a new TR. Aren’t those announced in 6months or so?

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015

I love you Dr. Zaius



Any dates yet? I look forward to having bots buy out all inventory of these for months before I can get a hold of one.

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


Yeah AMD has a premium product now. Also don’t forget you can still pair it with a B550 for an overall lower platform cost

Intel is in serious trouble here

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

drat Dirty Ape posted:

Any dates yet? I look forward to having bots buy out all inventory of these for months before I can get a hold of one.

November 5th

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

ijyt posted:

US Goons how do these prices compare to the 3000 series launch?

the Ryzen 5 3600 was 200 USD SRP at launch

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Rabid Snake posted:

drat I'm not liking the prices

Whenever Intel or AMD gets unambiguously ahead of the other in all metrics they crank that price up.

Vir
Dec 14, 2007

Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-AanO3Axzk

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

ratbert90 posted:

I would be very surprised if they announce a new TR. Aren’t those announced in 6months or so?
Was it a whole six months every time? drat.

Rabid Snake
Aug 6, 2004



KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

they dont gotta sell it at discount

*bangs on table*
BIG NAVI BIG NAVI

is that poo poo gonna be any good

The six core varient used to be the sweet spot for price and performance.


hobbesmaster posted:

Whenever Intel or AMD gets unambiguously ahead of the other in all metrics they crank that price up.

Yeah I understand. They probably cranked it up after seeing Intel's continued delay of 7nm

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


The price increase to me also likely means AMD has lots of inventory and they expect to sell through it fast.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Combat Pretzel posted:

Was it a whole six months every time? drat.

According to Wikipedia 3 months. :v:

DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

Inept posted:

lol $300 bucks for 6 cores and $450 for 8 cores

Intel make something better you shits

Yeah, honestly really disappointed there.

The 5800X is gonna be going up against, effectively, the 10700k. I'll wait for benchmarks, but in that the 10700k has 2 more cores and better clocks, I'd be real surprised if the 5800X beats it in much. And the 10700k is $75 cheaper.

But yeah, if you're the type to spend >$500 on a CPU, the 5900X seems like a no-brainer.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1314239810358382593

denereal visease
Nov 27, 2002

"Research your own experience. Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, add what is essentially your own."

Did they mention a 5700X? Hoping to get those sweet IPC gains while staying at low TDP.

Tuned in late, saw a 5600X, 5800X, 5900X, and 5950X.

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


Like how could AMD look at the 3080 thing and not say “ok yeah nerds are in a spending frenzy, jack those prices up while we can and clean up”?

They have the premium product and in this marketplace nerds will gladly pay

DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

Number19 posted:

The price increase to me also likely means AMD has lots of inventory and they expect to sell through it fast.

How do you figure? If anything, high initial prices would suggest low inventory that they intend to sell to the True Believers or whatever, and then can price-cut later once inventory ramps up.

MikeC
Jul 19, 2004
BITCH ASS NARC
LOL 300 dollars for 6 cores 450 dollars for the 8 core part, time to start bending over for the AMD tax now. Rocket Lake needs to save us.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

DrDork posted:

Yeah, honestly really disappointed there.

The 5800X is gonna be going up against, effectively, the 10700k. I'll wait for benchmarks, but in that the 10700k has 2 more cores and better clocks, I'd be real surprised if the 5800X beats it in much. And the 10700k is $75 cheaper.

But yeah, if you're the type to spend >$500 on a CPU, the 5900X seems like a no-brainer.

Uh I don't think the 10700k has more cores?

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

denereal visease posted:

Did they mention a 5700X? Hoping to get those sweet IPC gains while staying at low TDP.

Tuned in late, saw a 5600X, 5800X, 5900X, and 5950X.

They didnt formally announce a 5700X or 5600 non-X.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

*bangs on table*
BIG NAVI BIG NAVI

is that poo poo gonna be any good

it doesn't have an answer to DLSS (that we know of), and personally I think NVidia Broadcast/RTX Voice is a killer app, but if it's not available and Navi is I might be tempted to stick with AMD

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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Rabid Snake posted:

drat I'm not liking the prices

I kept sayin', once AMD finally beats skylake the prices will go up to Intel levels. That's 9900K pricing, paid $475 for my 8C just about exactly two years ago. The 8700K could have been cheaper depending on when you got it, OEM ones were $250 at microcenter for a while

zen2 is still there for something cheaper and like I said the argument is the same as it was for Intel, if you can get a 3600 for $160 you will have to personally do the math on whether +19% average performance is worth almost twice the money. I am reliably informed that the difference between 150 and 160 fps is not noticeable and it's not necessary to purchase anything faster than Zen2.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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AMD has been willing to adjust prices quickly based on competition, so these prices will only stand if Intel keeps making GBS threads out uncompetitive product.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

ratbert90 posted:

According to Wikipedia 3 months. :v:

Yeah it was fairly "quick" last time.

I guess a 5970X would show up with 32C/64T, 3.8 GHz base, 4.7 GHz boost?

Also, on pricing... I mean, I don't know if it's 2600K days again, but that CPU is what I'm typing this on and 10 years is a great run. Kinda shrug on the price if it will last another decade, honestly.

e: Ehh, ok, so the 2600K cost me $329.99 and mobo $189.99 in January 2011. Things have definitely gotten pricier. ~$500 for 10 years.

movax fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Oct 8, 2020

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

DrDork posted:

Yeah, honestly really disappointed there.

The 5800X is gonna be going up against, effectively, the 10700k. I'll wait for benchmarks, but in that the 10700k has 2 more cores and better clocks, I'd be real surprised if the 5800X beats it in much. And the 10700k is $75 cheaper.

But yeah, if you're the type to spend >$500 on a CPU, the 5900X seems like a no-brainer.

What? The 10700k is an 8 core part like 5800x. Disappointed? The single core gains appear to be massive, and amd already was better power-wise.

Everyone worried about prices needs to remember they'll fall like they always do with amd cpus

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

10700k is $349 at Microcenter. Launching the 5800X at $449 is pretty dang bold considering they will likely be neck and neck in performance...

(this assumes the 3000 parts are gonna go out of production, which I think seems likely?)

e: poo poo, the 10850K is $449. Intel is offering more cores for your dollar than AMD :v:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
Isn't Intel just scheduled to pinch off another shitass 14nm++++++++ product in March 2021 or something?

Yeah these prices are gonna be high a while.

Rabid Snake
Aug 6, 2004



DrDork posted:

Yeah, honestly really disappointed there.

The 5800X is gonna be going up against, effectively, the 10700k. I'll wait for benchmarks, but in that the 10700k has 2 more cores and better clocks, I'd be real surprised if the 5800X beats it in much. And the 10700k is $75 cheaper.

But yeah, if you're the type to spend >$500 on a CPU, the 5900X seems like a no-brainer.

Don't forget that Ryzen 3 has a 19 percent increase in IPC and I bet (hopefully) runs cooler then intel's 14nm

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Cygni posted:

10700k is $349 at Microcenter. Launching the 5800X at $449 is pretty dang bold considering they will likely be neck and neck in performance...

(this assumes the 3000 parts are gonna go out of production, which I think seems likely?)

I think they leaked a benchmark where the 5800X beats the 10900K so I wouldn't assume parity there.

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MikeC
Jul 19, 2004
BITCH ASS NARC

sean10mm posted:

Isn't Intel just scheduled to pinch off another shitass 14nm++++++++ product in March 2021 or something?

Yeah these prices are gonna be high a while.

Lol I told ya Lisa was coming for our wallets.

Rocket Lake should be good. Tops out at 8 cores and will run hot but Willowcove, even on a 14nm backport should be competitive. 5900x and 5950x will remain in the stratosphere but maybe the average Joe parts will drop in March.

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