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Last ep was fantastic. Howled in laughter, felt sad, went "oh gently caress" at least once... loved it! So over the whole season, there were 5 great episodes, 5 meh episodes, and absolutely no outright offensive to my sensibilities episodes, which cements this show as being better than both Discovery and Picard! Well done and I look forward to Season 2! Thank god there's finally some decent Trek. Not like my opinion matters but I'm re-watching TNG and realizing just how much of it I never truly processed as a kid. I'm more or less being spoiled by bingeing the best Trek for what feels like the first time so the fact Lower Decks is entertaining amidst that should speak volumes. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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nine-gear crow posted:
I remember seeing this called Colony Worfs.
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Oct 12, 2020 05:13
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I will laugh my rear end off if the new LDS security chief is somehow just Worf.
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Oct 12, 2020 05:14
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HD DAD posted:I will laugh my rear end off if the new LDS security chief is somehow just Worf. Or Alexander
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Oct 12, 2020 05:15
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HD DAD posted:I’m actually kinda excited for Disco Season 3. Show needed a reboot and they did it, and I’m ready to go in with cautious optimism. Yeah, I'm quite hyped for more Disco. It's unfortunate that Michael still seems to have such an outsized role in the show, but I really like most of the crew (even Michael, as long as she doesn't take up like 80% of the screen time...), so I really want to see more adventures with them. And now that they are no longer hobbled by being a prequel, they can do more stuff without worrying whether it violates canon or not.
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Oct 12, 2020 08:01
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nine-gear crow posted:I flashed back to that post as soon as I saw the Titan on screen. And I went "McMahan, you beautiful bastard." Lower Decks really does feel like the kind of Star Trek show I would make if I landed in charge of one, because I would also do that kind of "what stuff from Memory Beta can I drag into canon? Let's see" poo poo until I got fired. It also reminded me of Star Wars Rebels where they dragged in a ton of Ralph McQuarrie's unused concept art and those old weird Kenner SW toy vehicles
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Oct 12, 2020 08:26
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nine-gear crow posted:... Yes, go on! nine-gear crow posted:... II canon. I'd make Bridge Commander canon. I'd make Armada and Armada II canon. I'd make that Ace Combat ripoff on the PS1 with the zippy space fighters and the Trek-ized Battlestar Galactica canon. I'd be a goddamn nightmare. No. Not like this. Not like this!
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Oct 12, 2020 08:28
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Torrannor posted:Yeah, I'm quite hyped for more Disco. It's unfortunate that Michael still seems to have such an outsized role in the show, but I really like most of the crew (even Michael, as long as she doesn't take up like 80% of the screen time...), so I really want to see more adventures with them. And now that they are no longer hobbled by being a prequel, they can do more stuff without worrying whether it violates canon or not. I don't understand why they put her forward so much, previous treks did not have a main character on this level. Even the captains before didn't have every single moment of every episode focus on them.
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Oct 12, 2020 08:29
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They don't use the Spore Drive in the pre-DISCO canon because you need a pilot who has been gene spliced with the tardigrade to do it, and gene therapy is illegal in the federation. Plus all the classified reasons etc
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Oct 12, 2020 09:08
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8one6 posted:Yes, go on! Making EF2 canon also makes EF1 canon. I just liked it better than 1, okay.
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Oct 12, 2020 09:13
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Alternatively, the only remaining Starfleet ship with an proven experimental spore drive exists 900 years in the future of the Federation and Starfleet is that dumb that they didn't make any more of them. They literally scuttled the USS Glenn, which was the only other ship featuring the tech. Maybe the tardigrades are hard to come by, as well. Gonz fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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Oct 12, 2020 09:13
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The ending of DISCO is exactly the same as the ending of that Simpsons episode where it turns out Principal Skinner is an imposter, and the judge rules that no-one is allowed to mention it on pain of torture, and it is just so stupid.
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Oct 12, 2020 09:18
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Gonz posted:They literally scuttled the USS Glenn, which was the only other ship featuring the tech. They said in season one that they were fitting a bunch of other ships with Spore Drive too. They didn't have navigators but they did have the gene sequences? That was before the jump to the mirror universe and back, and the federation was apparently driven to the brink of defeat in that time but we never heard any follow up on the drives - you'd think they've have tried gene-sequencing some humans and giving it a go in the interim given how desperate they were.
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nine-gear crow posted:
This game owned and I’ve still got my copy, been meaning to replay it for some time now.
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Oct 12, 2020 14:10
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The ending of DISCO is exactly the same as the ending of that Simpsons episode where it turns out Principal Skinner is an imposter, and the judge rules that no-one is allowed to mention it on pain of torture, and it is just so stupid. I managed to forget Disco S2, thanks for dredging up that memory 
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Oct 12, 2020 14:46
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MichiganCubbie posted:Just putting this out there. Wolf 359 wouldn't have been as bad if Picard wasn't assimilated and the Borg couldn't just insider information. It kinda was an inside job from a certain point of view. notice how only one galaxy class was destroyed; was the adimrally sending old and out classed ships to their certain death so they could requisition warships over science vessels? notice how in the dominion war the almost 100 year old excelsior class was the ship of the line clearly the federation was fine committing old war material in a protracted stalemate while sending klingons and romulans to their death the invasion of Cardassia was clearly simple cost benefit analysis of lives lost versus crippling the dominion diminishing position due to lack of clones
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Oct 12, 2020 16:00
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Star Trek III established that ships of that era could run with only a couple of crew members. Makes sense that they'd pull a bunch of Miranda and Excelsior class ships out of mothballs, put some poor ensign in charge, and quietly keep building new Sovereign/Prometheus/Akira class ships all the while.
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Oct 12, 2020 16:18
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If you're expecting it to get blown up the first time it gets into range then you don't need repair crews, logistics crew, shuttles, sensors, and probably a half dozen other space-jobs. Just enough people to make sure the warp engines don't explode on the way to the fight, then enough sensors crew to get a target lock, a helmsman or two to drive it, one tactical officer to press "fire", and someone to be in charge.
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Oct 12, 2020 16:45
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Just put a bunch of crew into teleport buffers and beam copies onto the doomed ships.
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Oct 12, 2020 16:49
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Gonz posted:Maybe the tardigrades are hard to come by, as well. There was an entire clutch of Tardigrade eggs aboard the Enterprise for like 15 years 
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Oct 12, 2020 19:47
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It's funny, I got through the first like 10 minutes of the pilot when it "aired" and I was like, this is terrible, and turned it off. I saw some people online saying "you know what, I like this show" and decided to give it a second chance and I'm glad I did.
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Oct 12, 2020 20:11
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So are we doing a crying count for Michael this season? I feel like we need something like that.
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No Luck Needed posted:notice how only one galaxy class was destroyed; was the adimrally sending old and out classed ships to their certain death so they could requisition warships over science vessels? Wolf 359 was a scramble and presumably every ship at Wolf 359 was what could make it there in time. Remember that in Redemption, Starfleet struggled to gather a mere twenty ships near the Klingon border (and presumably not that far off from the Romulan Neutral Zone either since they then headed on to the Klingon/Romulan border) with only a few days' notice.
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Arc Light posted:Star Trek III established that ships of that era could run with only a couple of crew members. Makes sense that they'd pull a bunch of Miranda and Excelsior class ships out of mothballs, put some poor ensign in charge, and quietly keep building new Sovereign/Prometheus/Akira class ships all the while. I'm wondering how many ships the Borg attack in First Contact was supposed to have chewed through as well. I think the oldest ship we saw in the space combat scene there was a Nebula? Maybe the Borg wrecked most of their newer ships.
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Hey the USS Bozeman was there in First Contact but iirc a book made it a new USS Bozeman but still with Frasier in command
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FlamingLiberal posted:So are we doing a crying count for Michael this season? I feel like we need something like that. It's already hit critical 
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I'm wondering how many ships the Borg attack in First Contact was supposed to have chewed through as well. I think the oldest ship we saw in the space combat scene there was a Nebula? Maybe the Borg wrecked most of their newer ships. They also threw the Millennium Falcon into the deep background if you want to count that too
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Oct 12, 2020 21:01
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Yeah but Starfleet had been fighting a running battle with the cube for a while by that point, I'm pretty sure there'd been more losses before the Enterprise showed up.
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If only they'd had a few Intrepid-class there Those things cut through the borg like nothing at all
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I’m just going to retcon Frasier into the Star Trek universe. Already has a cranky old second in command and a psychic councillor. This thing writes itself.
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Oct 12, 2020 22:16
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Lord Ludikrous posted:This game owned and I’ve still got my copy, been meaning to replay it for some time now. Oh man I had entirely forgotten about the Kam'Jahtae! Some of my favourite Star Trek games are from those under the Activision era. Invasion is not one of them!
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Wolf 359 was a scramble and presumably every ship at Wolf 359 was what could make it there in time. Remember that in Redemption, Starfleet struggled to gather a mere twenty ships near the Klingon border (and presumably not that far off from the Romulan Neutral Zone either since they then headed on to the Klingon/Romulan border) with only a few days' notice. Wolf 359 is only 8 light years from Earth, it actually makes sense that it was mainly old ships since they are what you would you would expect to be puttering around in close safe space while all the newer ships are out on the edges.
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This is why the fan theory of the Borg farming humanity for it's technology is a thing. Guinan's species gets a fleet of Borg cubes and earth gets like 1?
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apatheticman posted:This is why the fan theory of the Borg farming humanity for it's technology is a thing. I like to think the El Aurians are a weird fluke and people like Q and the Borg know what’s up and that they’re more than what they appear to be. Like in The Good Place where Michael looks like Ted Danson, but is actually a multidimensional fire squid.
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HD DAD posted:I like to think the El Aurians are a weird fluke and people like Q and the Borg know what’s up and that they’re more than what they appear to be. Like in The Good Place where Michael looks like Ted Danson, but is actually a multidimensional fire squid. I like to think that the El Aurians were so in tune with the cosmos that they were immune to the influence of the Q completely, and that scared the Q so much they finally said “gently caress it” and sicced the Borg on them to wipe them out because they couldn’t do it themselves.
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Martytoof posted:I’m just going to retcon Frasier into the Star Trek universe. Already has a cranky old second in command and a psychic councillor. This thing writes itself. This book exists and it is terrible!
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What if the show just follows Boimler around through the seasons? I’d still watch the crap out of that. nine-gear crow posted:Oh god, can you just imagine it. Wil Wheaton playing a cool Wesley Crusher who just styles on Boimler all the time. Fuuuuuuck There’s a name I wouldn’t mind to just never hear again on NuTrek, unless maybe it was just a phrase then a “Shut Up, Wesley”
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nine-gear crow posted:Late as poo poo to the party, but I just want to express my love for the USS Vancouver. I love that they stealthily pulled in design elements from the Luna-class for it. It's probably the closest we're gonna get to seeing the USS Titan on screen unless Lower Decks pulls out some amazing batshit curveball, which, if Michael McMahan is the kind of guy he seems to be... actually just might The Prophets walk among us
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I mean, it's what I would do I could get away with it, and probably even if I couldn't too.
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Martytoof posted:I’m just going to retcon Frasier into the Star Trek universe. Already has a cranky old second in command and a psychic councillor. This thing writes itself. This, basically? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIeEyDETaHY
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nine-gear crow posted:I like to think that the El Aurians were so in tune with the cosmos that they were immune to the influence of the Q completely, and that scared the Q so much they finally said “gently caress it” and sicced the Borg on them to wipe them out because they couldn’t do it themselves. Something like this is my take as well
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