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DJExile posted:Yeah even in a perfect case scenario, Buffalo is going to sneak into a WC2 spot and get absolutely slaughtered in the first round. Bonus points if they stay in the playoff race till the trade deadline, then lost 10 straight.
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fawning deference posted:I just find it so weird that after Hall routinely was saying winning matters most, that he was tired of not getting chances at a Cup, and that he expected player values to decline this year and that was OK for him... He winds up trying to maximize his value for next year and playing on a notoriously terrible Edmonton of the East team. Very strange. But as people have been saying, he becomes a primo trade deadline candidate for a contender.
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Oct 12, 2020 14:40
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Chad Sexington posted:But as people have been saying, he becomes a primo trade deadline candidate for a contender. I could be wrong but hasn't this been what everyone has been saying about Hall for like 3-4 deadlines now? E: it's not to say Hall isn't a hell of a player, he clearly is, but I feel like we keep hearing this at deadlines or FA periods and it never happens.
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Oct 12, 2020 14:42
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Oilers, Devils, Coyotes, and now the Sabres....that’s a rough resume for the era Hall has played in
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Oct 12, 2020 14:44
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With Hall off the board that still leaves Granlund, Hoffman, Dadonov, and Toffoli available to fill top 6 holes for someone. Along with useful players such as Kahun, Simon, and maybe Duclair to fit into middle 6 roles....and whatever is left of Alex Galchenyuk's career. Defensively Pietra is likely heading to Vegas so Vatanen is probably best available after that with Ceci lurching and a very cooked Hamonic available as well. Gustafsson is also still around for all of your bottom pairing 2nd powerplay needs.
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DJExile posted:I could be wrong but hasn't this been what everyone has been saying about Hall for like 3-4 deadlines now? I mean, he WAS moved to the Coyotes last year for prospects and picks. Not at the deadline, but in December. And they were a playoff team, technically.
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I was out of town for a long weekend and I'm just catching up JMFJ to NYR  That Crawford deal for NJD  Hall to BUF... 
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Watch him learn how to score
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Oct 12, 2020 17:33
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what in the last four years of cory schneider's career would make lou think he has anything left
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Oct 12, 2020 17:35
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Even just as an AHL deal I Do Not Like This.
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Oct 12, 2020 17:51
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At least we can figure out if it's possible for Barry Trotz to have a bad goalie for once
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That makes no sense unless they're trading Varlamov and going with the risky goalie combo of Sorokin and Schneider which still wouldn't make sense
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Oct 12, 2020 17:53
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GMs and Presidents need to stop signing guys because they used to play for them!! We have John Davidson successfully pushing to sign the worst defenseman in the league and Lou signing guys like Leo Komorov, Andy Greene and now Schneider. It’s just loving lazy. Find new players!
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Still trying to understand why Hall would go to Buffalo for only 1 year. Also, while I don't begrudge the team their current playoff success, I don't like the Isles winning for one specific reason. It gives people the idea that the Leafs shouldn't have let go of Lou.
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Oct 12, 2020 18:00
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WeaponX posted:GMs and Presidents need to stop signing guys because they used to play for them!! We have John Davidson successfully pushing to sign the worst defenseman in the league and Lou signing guys like Leo Komorov, Andy Greene and now Schneider. It’s just loving lazy. Find new players! JD signing the worst defenseman in the league who also happened to used to play for him is just Market correction for signing perhaps the best forward in the league who also happened to used to play for him.
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fawning deference posted:That makes no sense unless they're trading Varlamov and going with the risky goalie combo of Sorokin and Schneider which still wouldn't make sense No, it's more likely that the Islanders want another option if Sorokin isn't ready to be a backup. Though, it's still a bad signing because because Schneider doesn't have a hip and couldn't even handle being a backup in New Jersey.
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The issue with the logic of “Hall can just be traded to a playoff team” is that the teams he’d want to go to aren’t going to have enough space to take him on. He’s going to end up back on another wildcard tweener, whether it’s a trade partner or Buffalo themselves.
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Koopa Kid posted:The issue with the logic of “Hall can just be traded to a playoff team” is that the teams he’d want to go to aren’t going to have enough space to take him on. He’s going to end up back on another wildcard tweener, whether it’s a trade partner or Buffalo themselves. I never quite understood this but isn't there some kind of cap fuckery that happens as the season goes on? Teams always find a way to add salary and I thought it was because contracts have a diminishing impact on the cap further into the year.
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i am the bird posted:I never quite understood this but isn't there some kind of cap fuckery that happens as the season goes on? Teams always find a way to add salary and I thought it was because contracts have a diminishing impact on the cap further into the year. Yeah cap space increases as time goes on, cap is counted every day so if you’ve accrued x amount of space over 2/3 of the season you can add a bigger contract over the last 1/3. But even pro rated $8M is a lot and most teams will be close to capped out this year especially.
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i am the bird posted:I never quite understood this but isn't there some kind of cap fuckery that happens as the season goes on? Teams always find a way to add salary and I thought it was because contracts have a diminishing impact on the cap further into the year. Cap hits get added every day I think* so if you spend the the entire first 2/3 of the season $1 million under the cap you can add a $3 million player at the deadline (79*2/3 + 82*1/3 = 80 if that's the cap). It's not fuckery, it's just pro-rating. ELCs also have bonuses that only get added at the end of the season, which occasionally puts some teams over the cap but only applies to the next season. Of course if you're at or above the cap all season long you can't do a drat thing at the trade deadline unless you shed at least as much salary as you acquire. * Some teams demote waiver-ineligible prospects on paper to save cap space which seems like a stupid loophole to me and would be avoidable if they just added cap hits every game night instead.
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Koopa Kid posted:Yeah cap space increases as time goes on, cap is counted every day so if you’ve accrued x amount of space over 2/3 of the season you can add a bigger contract over the last 1/3. If the Sabres are in sell mode, they won’t be adding anyone else so there’s no harm in them retaining half as well so the other team only needs to scrounge up a prorated $4 million.
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pseudodragon posted:If the Sabres are in sell mode, they won’t be adding anyone else so there’s no harm in them retaining half as well so the other team only needs to scrounge up a prorated $4 million. That’s fair, still feels like a losing gamble on his part though. There’s a reason he was traded to Phoenix last year.
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Well, I thought maybe the Canucks would fail to sign all three of their free agents. I didn't except them to lose all of them AND Stecher. That's really top quality incompetence there.
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This is not a terrible FA contract?!?! Not very Alzner-esque Quick somebody counter my point with logic that makes this FA signing awful so I feel normal about Bergevin again
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Extremely cool and good that the Canucks lost all their competent free agents so that we can instead have Loui "Healthy Scratch" Erickson and the ghost of Roberto Luongo.
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Taylor Hall will probably be great in Buffalo but that team is not on the cusp of winning anything. Still fun for Buffalo fans to have something to enjoy..a bit like Edmonton will not win anything but Mcdavid is still worth the price of admission.
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I think that Hall contract is actually kind of awesome. it gives him complete control over where he goes this season and he will probably have a good time in Buffalo as long as he's there. he doesn't have a wife or kids or anything so if his first priority is winning a cup it makes a lot of sense to structure a deal that gives you the most control possible over where you play. The real danger there is if he knocks up an overweight buffaloian woman and then is forced to settle in the area long term
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A mid-season LTIR injury could land Hall on a good team, possibly. Most likely, thinking how these athletes are going into the year with the weirdest disruption to their training regimes.
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bewbies posted:I think that Hall contract is actually kind of awesome. it gives him complete control over where he goes this season and he will probably have a good time in Buffalo as long as he's there. he doesn't have a wife or kids or anything so if his first priority is winning a cup it makes a lot of sense to structure a deal that gives you the most control possible over where you play. Your take sucks and you should probably pull back on assumed sexual proclivities of the player which also ignores the whole 'we're in a pandemic that makes your lungs swiss cheese and might cause lasting heart and brain damage'.
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bewbies posted:I think that Hall contract is actually kind of awesome. it gives him complete control over where he goes this season and he will probably have a good time in Buffalo as long as he's there. he doesn't have a wife or kids or anything so if his first priority is winning a cup it makes a lot of sense to structure a deal that gives you the most control possible over where you play. this is the gooniest take I've seen in quite some time, good grief.
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