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This book is really pushing the z-space concept hard. A certain storyline must be coming up soon
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# ? Oct 14, 2020 03:38 |
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Chekhov's Z-space mass
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# ? Oct 14, 2020 03:49 |
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quote:WHAP! WHAP! I said, certified freak Seven days a week Web-having Animorphs Falling from a peak, woo
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# ? Oct 14, 2020 04:49 |
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Haha I'm glad I'm not the only person who thought that
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# ? Oct 14, 2020 06:50 |
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I just realized this is the heist episode. Visser Three walks in at the same time all of a sudden, going, <hah! you really fell for it, Andalite bandits> and only then does he realize these are the wrong bats! the crystal isn't even there! the animorphs did the heist yesterday!!
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# ? Oct 14, 2020 08:11 |
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The elite hork-bajir guard he sent in were actually the Animorphs in morph! Actually that one would fit in with their MO.
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# ? Oct 14, 2020 08:16 |
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Krazyface posted:The elite hork-bajir guard he sent in were actually the Animorphs in morph! Actually that one would fit in with their MO. That would actually be a really good twist and I'm sad that I don't think it does ever happen!
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# ? Oct 14, 2020 08:43 |
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The Yeerks should really start proofing their buildings against intrusions by small animals and the like. Multiple Animoprhs have already been discovered morphing small animals. They did a decent job in this one, but really, no security on the vents or anything?
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# ? Oct 14, 2020 09:19 |
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Synesthesian Fetish posted:This book is really pushing the z-space concept hard. A certain storyline must be coming up soon Huh. Yeah, if it's the one involving time travel, that's actually the next book. I thought it was a later Jake book, but nope! FlocksOfMice posted:I just realized this is the heist episode. Yeah, I was thinking this is basically the famous scene from Mission Impossible. And that movie did come out a year before this book.
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# ? Oct 14, 2020 09:29 |
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Epicurius posted:Regarding family relationships, here's Jake, Tom, and their dad: On the subject of Tom... This is perhaps my favorite panel in the graphic novel. Perfectly captures the following: quote:At that moment, something weird happened. I was looking at Tom, and he was smiling at me. in a single panel. The whole thing is a straightforward adaptation, but I feel like the series was always begging for that evocative visual element, and the TV show never came even remotely close to delivering that. Despite the colorful and almost childlike style, it's so good at conveying the horror and existential dread every single character has to endure.
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# ? Oct 14, 2020 12:15 |
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I will say it's a very good graphic novel. And, while I don't know if they're planning on doing all of them, there's at least one more planned. Now, without further ado: Book 10: The Android-Chapter 23 quote:<See? We should never get cocky,> Cassie said. <It’s tempting the irony gods.> Sure, Cassie, be impatient with the alien who's never studied human religion because he doesn't get your sarcasm. quote:<We power our way out,> Rachel said. In some ways, honestly, after they get out of the room, they might be better going fly/cockroach/spider and trying to get back up the vents, Yes, they've set off the alarms, but they're not particularly subtle right now, and little animals are going to be better at getting around Yeerk patrols than big ones. quote:Suddenly, another door, a dead end. Rachel hit it with her shoulder, and the door was gone. Welp, they're dead. Chapter 24 quote:ScreeEEEET! ScreeEEEEET! ScreeEEEET! I don't know that it entirely captures the threat, but it is pretty spiky. quote:I’ve fought Hork-Bajir before. And I can count. Two dozen Hork-Bajir was at least a dozen more than we had any hope of defeating. I honestly think that fight is the most brutal depicted in the books so far, including the one where Marco gets bisected by a shark.
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# ? Oct 15, 2020 01:27 |
This book always felt like a dark mirror of Rachel's second, to me.
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# ? Oct 15, 2020 01:45 |
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Hahaha yeahhhh this is a scene that's never left my memory since I first read it. It's not a lot of children's literature that will give you a detailed description of what it feels like to be dying in combat like this. Especially from the point of view of a child.
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# ? Oct 15, 2020 02:33 |
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disaster pastor posted:Fun facts like how long a gorilla can remain conscious after getting disemboweled and stabbed in the heart! This is no longer a spoiler.
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# ? Oct 15, 2020 02:57 |
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Book 10: The Android- Chapter 25quote:I woke up on the ground. Not a floor, the ground. Dirt and leaves. Ouch. Man, this whole thing is tough. quote:I looked at him. Already in my own human mind, the memories of that night’s horror were fading. The flash of blades and the pain and the sickening feeling of my fist closing around the Hork-Bajir’s throat … they were being covered over by scar tissue. What if I could never forget? What if all those memories were fresh forever? This is honestly just a brutal chapter, I don't even know what to say here. Like, I don't know what you can say, except, pre-teens read this. Chapter 26 quote:“Yeah! Yeah! Go boy!” Final hair reference. quote:There weren’t that many people on the beach because it was a little too chilly for lying out. Instead, people came down and flew kites, or walked along, looking for sand dollars and shells. And they played with their dogs. Spoken as someone who's owned a dog, I can vouch for that. quote:But just then, Homer lost all interest in the Frisbee. Two dogs were trotting by, tails in the air. That's a sweet ending. Doesn't make up for the horror tht is last chapter, but. Ok, so that's the book. Before we end it, since we had talked about the Animorphs TV show, Erek the Chee does show up in two episodes, played by Dov Tiefenbach. Tiefenbach was in a bunch of movies, most notably Tommy Boy and Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle, was in a bunch of TV shows, including Law and Order, SVU, and is currently in the Netflix series The Umbrella Academy. Here's what he looked like, then and now: So tomorrow, we start a new book, "The Forgotten". It's a Jake book, and it's....interesting.
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 01:56 |
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Classic book, great ending. Also, lol, "Marco, you saved us by getting the crystal to Erek" is on the level of "Ralph had the idea to ask Lisa"
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 02:35 |
So where 7 had it end on a relative up note - they won a big victory and things looked somewhat hopeful - this book just kicks them in the guts while they're gorilla-crawling. Did they win? No. Did they survive? Only just barely, and not due to themselves. Did they find a new ally? Not really. This book seems intent on driving home the message that there is nothing at all glorious about war. You fight and you die. Or you fight and you live, but you're never the same again. Thats what i meant about this book being a dark mirror of 7.
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 02:58 |
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This part of it sticks out SO much to me though. Of all the animorphs it's the part that I remembered the most vividly? I don't feel like it's a cop-out, and it's so close to being one it's like, a very great examination of the concept of "we're super powerful but we don't fight because pacifist!" And it's a really good play with the idea of immortality that you don't see done this way specifically very much? That in being immortal, and being anything but living a carefree life, you'll accrue baggage. And with a mortal life there's a knowledge that it'll be over in one way or another, but as an immortal, all the bad things you've done and have had happened to you, just keep accruing, more and more and more over time. I'm honestly not entirely convinced the human mind really ever gets over the bad things it experiences itself, and mortality in that regard is probably a good safety mechanism for it. I mean, even in this, Marco says the human mind just sort of forgets about it and the nightmares stop being as often--but like how the characters at the end of the series aren't all dealing with their experiences well either, you don't really just... get over it. Bad stuff plus time doesn't mean you stop feeling it, you just feel it, hopefully, less often. Like a die where rolling a 1 is a bad memory resurfacing--as you get older and further away from the traumatic stuff, you get more numbers on your die, but it can still roll that 1. Too many bad things and it starts taking over the 2 as well. Being immortal, even if you're rolling a die with a thousand numbers on it, if the first few hundred get taken up by bad numbers, well! It's a really good use of the "We're powerful enough to end this war ourselves, but won't because we're pacifists!" and I honestly can't think of another time it's been used in a way that was satisfying like that.
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 03:40 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Did they find a new ally? Not really. Mild spoilers: They do end up being super useful though, in that Applegate can now send the heroes on missions of days or weeks away from their town, with the Chee standing in for them back home. IIRC she ends up whipping that out a lot. Very end of series spoilers: I think as a kid it bugged me that we never find out what happens to the Chee long term; Marco or Cassie or someone says goodbye to Erek on the Pool Ship and then they're just not mentioned again. But that makes more sense to me now, because I think it implies that they let them be and never told the rest of the world their secret.
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 04:31 |
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Erwin the German posted:The whole thing is a straightforward adaptation, but I feel like the series was always begging for that evocative visual element, and the TV show never came even remotely close to delivering that. Despite the colorful and almost childlike style, it's so good at conveying the horror and existential dread every single character has to endure. My copy came in today, and after reading through it I completely agree. In particular, the closing pages of Jake talking to the (now-trapped) Tobias really nailed the disconnect between "voice of a teenage dork" and "stoic face of a predatory bird" that came up frequently in the books, and made me reckon with it in a way I never had just reading them. A very solid adaptation through and through, and well-worth checking out.
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 05:02 |
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Also, excited for the next book! Though I'm pretty sure I read through all the books via the library at one point or another, I only ever owned a handful, and this was one of them. So naturally, I read through this one often enough that a good portion of it remains embedded in my brain to this day, and I'm excited to see how well this one in particular holds up.
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 05:06 |
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There's only so many times you can say "this book got surprisingly dark" but jesus christ did this book get surprisingly dark.
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 07:37 |
did this get linked? https://thespinoff.co.nz/media/02-09-2018/i-read-all-54-animorphs-books-in-five-days-and-it-almost-killed-me/
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 08:02 |
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GodFish posted:There's only so many times you can say "this book got surprisingly dark" but jesus christ did this book get surprisingly dark. If we could get a bot that just posts this every few days, I think the thread would be better for it. Hell, name him Erek King.
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 08:18 |
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‘This Book Got Surprisingly Dark,’ Says Increasingly Nervous Reader For Seventh Time This Book
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 08:23 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:did this get linked? I need to know what the word "animorphs" sounds like with a New Zealand accent
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 08:34 |
Tree Bucket posted:I need to know what the word "animorphs" sounds like with a New Zealand accent a-nuh-MORFS
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 09:02 |
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FlocksOfMice posted:This part of it sticks out SO much to me though. Of all the animorphs it's the part that I remembered the most vividly? Yeah, I think back then I felt like this was more of a cop-out than it actually was, maybe because I was jaded about the typical TV series seeing the entire situation reverted back to the way things were initially by the end of each episode, regardless of what happened. And it was before long-form TV with continuity really took off over the next decade. What you describe about immortality is, like, half the story of Planescape: Torment. Which is interesting, because otherwise there's almost no similarities at all between it and Animorphs. disaster pastor posted:This is no longer a spoiler. I appreciate updates like this, by the way. I read maybe halfway through this series, but I'm not quite sure where I stopped, so it's good to know when spoiler points have been passed.
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 11:35 |
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Rochallor posted:The Yeerks should really start proofing their buildings against intrusions by small animals and the like. Multiple Animoprhs have already been discovered morphing small animals. They did a decent job in this one, but really, no security on the vents or anything? Yeerks are kind of bad at security in general. They never seem to use security cameras, for instance. I guess the lack of security cameras in the Yeerk Pool could be due to worries about footage leaking and completely blowing the Yeerks' cover, but it's interesting that there seemed to be no security cameras monitoring the prison cells on the Blade Ship in "The Capture."
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 23:03 |
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Silver2195 posted:Yeerks are kind of bad at security in general. They never seem to use security cameras, for instance. I guess the lack of security cameras in the Yeerk Pool could be due to worries about footage leaking and completely blowing the Yeerks' cover, but it's interesting that there seemed to be no security cameras monitoring the prison cells on the Blade Ship in "The Capture." Yeah, even though none of their host species until humans would likely have need for such technology, the relative ubiquity of them in 90's California makes their absence kind of glaring. You'd think a high ranking controller would at least suggest it since they're dealing with a guerilla team and need to know how they keep getting in/out. The footage leaking is a good explanation that I hadn't thought of, but still it seems like a glaring omission. Although again they're not great at security, they start to get a bit better in the upcoming books (late teens perhaps?) With the gleet bio filters or whatever they are. I think I remember those coming in around book 17 or so. Still kind of reeling from the finale of the Pemalite crystal story, what a brutal ending.
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# ? Oct 16, 2020 23:48 |
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There's definitely a tension in these books between the need to have a happy kid ending and the desire to tell a serious story about the cost of war. We've seen books careen from exploring the body horror of being trapped as a slave of a collective mind to jokes about the giving the villain the wrong cure for his skunk odor, to now a climactic chapter about the misery of violence and the cost it inflicts on even justified users of such followed by an epilogue tossing a powerful tool into the sea in a pique of whimsy about the simple joy of dogs. Seems incongruent. Additionally I'm pretty sure the next book is the first I suggested my friend skip on her read if she did not have time, while interesting if I recall correctly it ends up being irrelevant to the larger plot due to time shenanigans. The only lasting value is introducing the idea of the Sario Rip.
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# ? Oct 17, 2020 00:26 |
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Book 11: The Forgotten-Chapter 1quote:Chapter 1 The standard opening here. quote:Which is why I really, really, really did not see why I had to have more suffering piled on. You all have to square dance in school? They made us do it, and this is giving me terrible flashbacks. quote:I grabbed her and swung her, and in a breathless voice she whispered, “I just came by to tell you something. Tobias wants us. Right after school lets out. It’s something big.” Precognition? Chapter 2 quote:3:08 P.M. More origin story stuff quote:“He’s coming closer,” Marco said. Fun fact....Peregrine falcons are the fastest flying birds in the world. They've reached airspeeds diving of 200 miles an hour. quote:I flapped and flapped, working hard to get altitude in the cool air. Flapping is hard. Just because you’re a bird doesn’t mean flapping is easy. So there we go. Why are the Controllers hanging out at the Safeway? Shopping for a Visser 3 ordered cookoff? Maybe (probably not).
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# ? Oct 17, 2020 01:20 |
BIG HONKING GOOBER
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# ? Oct 17, 2020 02:24 |
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chitoryu12 posted:BIG HONKING GOOBER The way he transitions from the unimaginable horror of fighting the secret alien invasion to the unimaginable horror of having to old-timey dance in front of his peers is great. He's so annoyed.
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# ? Oct 17, 2020 07:41 |
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ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:Additionally I'm pretty sure the next book is the first I suggested my friend skip on her read if she did not have time, while interesting if I recall correctly it ends up being irrelevant to the larger plot due to time shenanigans. The only lasting value is introducing the idea of the Sario Rip. Yup. This one also annoyed me, because its entire plot is completely negated by the end. Jake's the only one who even has any memory of it IIRC.
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# ? Oct 17, 2020 09:24 |
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I was quite surprised to learn that Safeway is a regional chain, which helps locate the animorphs on the west coast.
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# ? Oct 17, 2020 19:25 |
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Book 11: The Forgotten-Chapter 3quote:3:51 P.M. Ok, I second Cassie's rhetorical question here. Why IS the assistant principal of the middle school working construction? Do you all remember the second book? The Yeerks want to make Melissa Chapman a Controller, and the actual human Chapman, eager to protect his daughter, rebels. So the Yeerk inside him warns Visser 3, "Look, I'm kind of in the public eye and in front of people all the time. If the Human rebels and I start acting unusually, people are going to ask questions, and that could be bad, both for me and for the entire project. So now, Visser 3 is saying, "Iniss 226, I want you to be the foreman of a construction team." What's next? "Iniss 226, we need to smuggle Coors beer. Become a longhaul trucker and go to Denver!", "Iniss 226, we need to prove the physical superiority of the Yeerks. Go to Augusta National and win the Masters!", "Iniss 226, we need to buy a replacement Blade Ship. We need you to host a charity telethon." quote:<Whatever this is, it must be important,> Rachel said. <They’re working fast. And look! That guy there with the long coat? Up on the roof? I just caught a flash of a machine gun under his coat.> So, on top of the fact that this is totally unplanned, Jake is still having his visions. Any thoughts on Jake's opinions about the nature of leadership? Chapter 4 quote:4:40 P.M. the difference between landing and crashing is about two inches and two miles per hour. quote:Ax is Aximili-Esgarrouth-Isthill. He’s the younger brother of Prince Elfangor. As far as we know, Ax is the only Andalite to survive the destruction of their Dome ship. Right. "You're the only one who could have discovered this. Now let us finish it." goes down easier than "You don't understand. We feel sorry for you and that's why we don't want you to come." quote:“Okay,” I said, clapping my hands together and trying to sound cheerful and optimistic. “Flies it is. Everyone go home. We meet behind the motel in …” I checked my watch, “in approximately three hours. Around seven forty-five or so. We do a quick morph, we’re in and out of that Safeway in ten You know this is going to go well.
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# ? Oct 18, 2020 01:06 |
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GodFish posted:I was quite surprised to learn that Safeway is a regional chain, which helps locate the animorphs on the west coast. Also just to add, it's not entirely, or at least isn't anymore. I lived in Northern Virginia about ten years ago, and did a lot of my shopping at Safeway.
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# ? Oct 18, 2020 01:07 |
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Epicurius posted:Sometimes I wonder if maybe Ax has a sense of humor. We’d never noticed one, but who knows? Thanks a lot Jake. Just because you've never noticed it doesn't mean Ax isn't the funniest Animorph. Epicurius posted:
It's crazy that Cassie MENTIONS rats and yet they don't all have just a rat morph. You'd think the first thing they'd do is each acquire a bunch of common animals. Six separate stray dogs and six stray cats, six of the same rat (who would notice), seagull, pigeon, duck/ goose, deer, raccoon, bat, frog. There is only need for insect morphs when you must be almost completely invisible.
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# ? Oct 18, 2020 07:13 |