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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

meatpimp posted:

Yeah, but... how are your poops?

Eponymous

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Krakkles
May 5, 2003

I've met him in real life, probably more than 15 years ago, and that never connected for me.

Ew :v:

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
holy poo poo 24k of repair/service on that 560sec since 2016

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Krakkles posted:

I've met him in real life, probably more than 15 years ago, and that never connected for me.

Ew :v:

I mean, I think at this point he'd be hoping for that, instead of "Massachusetts Bedrock".

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen
*doctor puts away Bristol chart and pulls out Mohs scale*

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

IOwnCalculus posted:

I mean, I think at this point he'd be hoping for that, instead of "Massachusetts Bedrock".

Been there, when you're making GBS threads rocks or can't poo poo at all you're praying for diarrhea :v:

everdave
Nov 14, 2005
I think this year has been hard and drat it depression is real. Hope anyone who is struggling reaches out to someone. No it’s not as easy as looking at all the good you have, when your brain is saying the opposite. I have more blessings than most in the world you think things would be easier.

Rhino that is tough about your cat but you can’t live like that...I hope their is a good outcome

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I'm going to buy a couple gallons of acryllic floor coating and cover that new flooring. At the very least that will keep him from destroying it. I guess when we do the first floor we'll be punching up to LVT since it is pee proof.


I'm not getting rid of my cat.

everdave
Nov 14, 2005
Yeah man you can’t live like that and stay sane

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

I know this is AI, but there's a lot of computer-touchers in here.

Dead hard drive recovery service recommendations? I know they're expensive, but I was using a friend's laptop and the HDD just up and died - heard the windows "hardware disconnected" noise, then... dead. Drive isn't recognized at all even in an external enclosure and just makes sad HDD noises. The PC's BIOS occasionally sees "Hard drive" on the first SATA port, but nothing else (no model, no serial, etc) - most of the time it just says nothing is connected. Apparently there's some Very Important poo poo on it.

No backups, natch. 8 year old WD Black 2.5" with very low hours on it. Tried it in another laptop, and an external enclosure, both just occasional show some kind of drive is there, but can't identify it (or that nothing is hooked up). It ded, just sounds like the heads are seeking several times before going totally dead when powered on, and doesn't sound like it's spinning up. Friend's laptop is back up and running with a new el-cheapo SSD in it.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Oct 16, 2020

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

meatpimp posted:

Yeah, but... how are your poops?


Grasshoppers transform into swarm of locust based on the number of certain trigger events cumulatively experienced throughout their lives. We’re talking about extraordinarily primitive social behavior here, but what’s to say humans have totally escaped such an early intra(?)-social strategy? The number of conflict known throughout human history that make little sense seems to suggest to, in my mind. I’ve always been extremely naive in some sense though. Regardless, what’s not to say that a basic human strategy in regards to a new social playing field (EG: The Information Age) wouldn’t be to employ an extremely primitive social strategy? Wanna fix it? We find the trigger events, we break the cycle. I’m choosing to focus on transfers of stress. I think by far it’s the most used strategy by which we are creating diversions. We find some stress that bugs us and build a meme or trope about it, the point it out in each other over and over. It’s a silly social strategy.

Anyway I’m nodding in and out high as gently caress on hydrocodone and Vicodin right now. What was the question? So I started out writing about how excruciating hiccups are right now and how they’re caused by my continuing constipation. I ended up at the above and decided to truncate the beginning cause I though it was funny. We need to focus on building each other up, man. I still need to poop, thanks for asking. You’re alright.

Watched the Big Lebowski last night with my son, first time for him. I think he got something out of it. I should probably hit “Post” now or this ain’t never gonna end...

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

STR posted:

I know this is AI, but there's a lot of computer-touchers in here.

Dead hard drive recovery service recommendations? I know they're expensive, but I was using a friend's laptop and the HDD just up and died - heard the windows "hardware disconnected" noise, then... dead. Drive isn't recognized at all even in an external enclosure and just makes sad HDD noises. The PC's BIOS occasionally sees "Hard drive" on the first SATA port, but nothing else (no model, no serial, etc) - most of the time it just says nothing is connected. Apparently there's some Very Important poo poo on it.

No backups, natch. 8 year old WD Black 2.5" with very low hours on it. Tried it in another laptop, and an external enclosure, both just occasional show some kind of drive is there, but can't identify it (or that nothing is hooked up). It ded, just sounds like the heads are seeking several times before when powered on, and doesn't sound like it's spinning up. Friend's laptop is back up and running with a new el-cheapo SSD in it.

If the plates aren’t spinning up try freezing the drive. Yeah no poo poo, stick it in a freezer. Also give light percussive maintenance on start up. Treat it like a starter with a dead spot, man. If freezing don’t work, go the other direction. Use a hair dryer on the bearing faces of the platters. More light percussive maintenance, we’re talking tapping with a screwdriver handle, man. If it still don’t work you can replace the drive’s board itself. The tricky part is finding the exact same make, model, and to some degree (sometimes) of sub-model of what is now likely an obsolete OEM drive.

everdave
Nov 14, 2005

STR posted:

I know this is AI, but there's a lot of computer-touchers in here.

Dead hard drive recovery service recommendations? I know they're expensive, but I was using a friend's laptop and the HDD just up and died - heard the windows "hardware disconnected" noise, then... dead. Drive isn't recognized at all even in an external enclosure and just makes sad HDD noises. The PC's BIOS occasionally sees "Hard drive" on the first SATA port, but nothing else (no model, no serial, etc) - most of the time it just says nothing is connected. Apparently there's some Very Important poo poo on it.

No backups, natch. 8 year old WD Black 2.5" with very low hours on it. Tried it in another laptop, and an external enclosure, both just occasional show some kind of drive is there, but can't identify it (or that nothing is hooked up). It ded, just sounds like the heads are seeking several times before going totally dead when powered on, and doesn't sound like it's spinning up. Friend's laptop is back up and running with a new el-cheapo SSD in it.

I own a tiny computer store and don’t try to save them for people unless we are acquaintances anymore. If it’s not the click of death you can try things like freezing or getting the exact board (and I do mean exact) to swap in. That was easier for me when I had hundreds of hard drives laying around. Otherwise drive savers but that’s gonna be $1k at least

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



freezing has worked for me too. Stick it in a sealed bag and leave it to chill.

you might not get long with it once it warms up, so perhaps put it in an enclosure ready and find out where your files might be in advance

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

How long are the cables? Just don't take it out the freezer :haw:

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Already tried freezing it, though only for half an hour. The other problem is not only is it not spinning, the PC isn't even seeing it connected most of the time. I heard the Windows "device removed" noise about 5 seconds before the system froze. I'm guessing maybe the firmware just goes "ohshit" if the drive doesn't do what it's expecting, and stops responding? OCCASIONALLY the BIOS sees "hard drive" for the type of device when you go into SATA settings, but usually shows nothing connected.

My external enclosure shows a nonstop flashing light once it tries to initialize the drive - normally it flashes very briefly then goes solid until accessed (admittedly it's a $3 Aukey enclosure...)

She knows it's going to be 3-4 figures to get the data off if it's possible (one website I found claimed $495 for a clean room data recovery, that seems hilariously unrealistic though, and it sounded like they were just just to try replacing heads). Finding the exact PCB won't be too easy given the age of the drive, and I I'm not entirely sure it's not an internal failure.

The laptop had been sitting for ~5 years except for a couple of hours two years ago. I'm not sure how many hours are on the drive itself, but the laptop looks brand new (no keyboard wear or anything) and still holds a fantastic charge, despite being 8 years old. I don't think it saw any real usage over most of its life, so I'm kinda surprised the drive failed. WD Blacks are supposed to be decent, aren't they?

e: dave, thanks, drivesavers was the name I was looking for. I know they're supposed to be one of the best.

cakesmith handyman posted:

How long are the cables? Just don't take it out the freezer :haw:

Laptop, so... it slides in. :v: I supposed I could just get the longest cables possible and put it next to the freezer!
e: might be easier to just get a USB extension cable and put the external housing in the freezer.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Oct 16, 2020

TheBacon
Feb 8, 2012

#essereFerrari

I would expect more in the range of 4-5 figures for proper data recovery. We lost a very important server years ago and the recovery on the 6 drives was something like $40k

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

This is a single drive on the smaller side, just a consumer laptop drive, only has about 100GB on it (probably 20GB that actually needs recovery). Hopefully the quote doesn't come in that high :stonkhat:

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

trouser chili posted:

Grasshoppers transform into swarm of locust based on the number of certain trigger events cumulatively experienced throughout their lives. We’re talking about extraordinarily primitive social behavior here, but what’s to say humans have totally escaped such an early intra(?)-social strategy? The number of conflict known throughout human history that make little sense seems to suggest to, in my mind. I’ve always been extremely naive in some sense though. Regardless, what’s not to say that a basic human strategy in regards to a new social playing field (EG: The Information Age) wouldn’t be to employ an extremely primitive social strategy? Wanna fix it? We find the trigger events, we break the cycle. I’m choosing to focus on transfers of stress. I think by far it’s the most used strategy by which we are creating diversions. We find some stress that bugs us and build a meme or trope about it, the point it out in each other over and over. It’s a silly social strategy.

Anyway I’m nodding in and out high as gently caress on hydrocodone and Vicodin right now. What was the question? So I started out writing about how excruciating hiccups are right now and how they’re caused by my continuing constipation. I ended up at the above and decided to truncate the beginning cause I though it was funny. We need to focus on building each other up, man. I still need to poop, thanks for asking. You’re alright.

Watched the Big Lebowski last night with my son, first time for him. I think he got something out of it. I should probably hit “Post” now or this ain’t never gonna end...

This is the best post I've read in a long time.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



STR posted:

This is a single drive on the smaller side, just a consumer laptop drive, only has about 100GB on it (probably 20GB that actually needs recovery). Hopefully the quote doesn't come in that high :stonkhat:

Try leaving it in the freezer for longer. It’s been a 12 hour/overnight job when I’ve attempted it. (I think it has worked twice out of 3 drives)

I had a HDD suddenly fail on a laptop last week too. It was an old one but I left it running at home for 36 hours or so to test it then took it to a work site and left it running there to use as a remote access gateway to a load of servers I wanted to configure
(this is on a building site with very limited site access hours and restrictions, no proper internet yet and I left a 4G router attached to it)

My laptop failed after about 24 hours and in the process wiped out the text file full of lovely random passwords for all the new gear that I hadn’t yet copied off it :(

Tomarse fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Oct 17, 2020

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

meatpimp posted:

This is the best post I've read in a long time.

Fun fact: John Goodman went to my high school. His mother was my lunch lady. Thanks for reading, I think I’m closer to earth now.

trouser chili fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Oct 16, 2020

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof
I can't recommend a data recovery service, but I can recommend not doing a platter swap yourself in a home built "clean room"
That poo poo is nerve racking.

Everyone already covered it though.
Replacement board, if that don't work then cold, if not that then heat.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



Covid is most certainly kicking off in the north of the U.K. at the moment :(

Before today I only had a handful of internet acquaintances/friends and a few distant friends and contacts who have had it.

As of this evening I now know almost 10 people who have active cases with positive tests who are either friends, people I have worked with or seen over the past 2 or 3 weeks or immediate family members or colleagues of the above :(

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer
I only know one confirmed case and she hit the jackpot and got what some call "long covid", so 5 months after first symptoms she still has problems with exhaustion, pain and breathlessness.

EDIT: She's in her early 40s and in fairly good shape before this.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Nidhg00670000 posted:

"long covid"

Whoever comes up with these names could not have picked a funnier name for being stricken with a set of debilitating chronic symptoms that, who knows?, might last for the rest of someone's life.

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

Nidhg00670000 posted:

I only know one confirmed case and she hit the jackpot and got what some call "long covid", so 5 months after first symptoms she still has problems with exhaustion, pain and breathlessness.

EDIT: She's in her early 40s and in fairly good shape before this.

I met a neighbor yesterday while walking the dog that has the same. Says she’s going on 125 days no sense of smell or taste. She also told me she tries horseradish every day and nothing. Not sure bout her strategy here, but I do like horseradish. So much so I decided to have some on a small sandwich last night. Surprisingly that was not a problem whatsoever for my tonsil recovery site or nose. Feeling brave, I branched out to a large swig of Kirkland Tropical Mango drank. Which was entirely incompatible with my surgical site. It was like drinking a big gulp or white hot surgical needles, and they somehow instantly traveled from my throat to the back of my eyeballs. It was excruciating but laughable as I got it managed in a matter of minutes.

trouser chili fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Oct 17, 2020

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
did you suggest she try snorting the horseradish? :chanpop:

everdave
Nov 14, 2005
I fully support trouser chili being high on Vicodin and experimenting on his body.

My very first import was this Crown Majesta and the hood dropped on my left shoulder. drat that thing weighed a ton. I think my should was either dislocated or popped out later on. Agaonzing annoying pain now 2+ years later. I don’t think my doc would give pain meds he is an addiction specialist but can they ever like give you a numbing shot or something in that local area? I don’t know what to ask for and don’t want to be labeled a drug seeker

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

everdave posted:

I fully support trouser chili being high on Vicodin and experimenting on his body.

My very first import was this Crown Majesta and the hood dropped on my left shoulder. drat that thing weighed a ton. I think my should was either dislocated or popped out later on. Agaonzing annoying pain now 2+ years later. I don’t think my doc would give pain meds he is an addiction specialist but can they ever like give you a numbing shot or something in that local area? I don’t know what to ask for and don’t want to be labeled a drug seeker

Cortisone shot.

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh
Good news everybody, it’s more Vicodin time! Oh wait, this is Diazepam. I’m taking diazepam. Sorry this my drug collection of active medications right now.



This is me right now.

everdave
Nov 14, 2005
drat! I will have to ask about cortisone when I go back to the Doc just popped an ale every it is somewhat better.

Also STR I know drive savers doesn’t charge if they don’t recover your stuff. I have only had two people ever opt to send it to them both were over $1k. Might as well try swapping boards and everything before you do they recover fire stuff and poo poo that’s been in the lake for a year I doubt you will do much more damage but as others said be ready if it lights up to transfer right then it might not ever connect again!

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



Yeah if you can get it going with a controller swap then count your blessings and get everything off there ASAP in order of most to least important.

The shop I worked at briefly in like 2013 had a forensic drive recovery kit and it cost something like fifty grand to purchase. I think in the entire time I was there the one guy who was trained to use it had to recover something on it twice.

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat
Finding a same model drive with the same board is far and away your cheapest option. Pro recovery is expensive.

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



A friend who can't afford $1k for data recovery asked me to see if I could get some data off of her old Dell desktop. I plugged the drive into my Icy Dock but all I get is I/O errors in my logs, no bad sounds. Sound like swapping the controller is a better first bet than the freezer?

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
Not sure if this is from a current conflict but :popeye: (Sound on)

https://i.imgur.com/pVVRzmX.mp4

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
looks like a bideo game

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



That's a video game but the IRL version is pretty nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biyUjm4KZio

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



Yeah, that looks like ARMA 3, which is the current gold standard for "virtual combat footage that looks close enough to reality to go viral on twitter"

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

everdave posted:

I have only had two people ever opt to send it to them both were over $1k. Might as well try swapping boards and everything before you do they recover fire stuff and poo poo that’s been in the lake for a year I doubt you will do much more damage but as others said be ready if it lights up to transfer right then it might not ever connect again!

my dad used them once to recover a bunch of family history research that was almost lost. with a dicount coupon, i think it was a little under a grand. he was also able to tell them to take their time as he didn't need it right away, for an additional small discount. i think it took a week or two.

i also used to know a guy who did diy data recovery. he had a cold table that he had rigged up with a giant peltier module (it was out of a DC mini fridge, and a couple hundred watts) so he could clamp the drive to the table and keep it cold while he was trying to recover. i think tactical application of freezer spray (can of air upside down) was also used. he said he was successful, and i believed him

MomJeans420 posted:

A friend who can't afford $1k for data recovery asked me to see if I could get some data off of her old Dell desktop. I plugged the drive into my Icy Dock but all I get is I/O errors in my logs, no bad sounds. Sound like swapping the controller is a better first bet than the freezer?

does the drive try to mount? if so, i would use gddrescue to pull off as many sectors as will read, then go back for the problem ones. then see if you can fix the partition, or scan it with some other tool (can getdataback scan disk images?)

if you have a bunch of errors, but the drive nominally comes up, i would guess that it's a media problem rather than a board problem, unless a chip is getting real hot. but i dont know how common it is for it to be media vs interface :shrug:

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Of course it's a compound curve and a PITA. Got it on 3rd go after figuring out how it works. It's a replacement trim piece for the dash which strangely doesn't come up on the Holden database even though I physically have a piece in onyx and a valid part number format. So modding a silver piece.

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