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GreenNight posted:Aren't most people from B5 dead at this point? Ugly In The Morning posted:Mr Show’s Sketch about this was excellent. Makes you realize why so many of that generation grew up to make things like the Venture Brothers and Mr Show. Drugs man....drugs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDjmSYDq7es GreenNight posted:Don't watch Monster Squad unless you want a bunch of kids calling each other human being for months on end. I did not remember that from when I was a kid. EL BROMANCE posted:I remember watching the film as a kid and the main takeaway was how bad an idea it was asking 'what do those numbers on that mans arm mean?'.
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When I was in elementary school in the 80s we played smear the queer all the time and I had no idea what it meant.
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GreenNight posted:Aren't most people from B5 dead at this point? set it later on the timeline. New cast. Just same universe. Basically in sci-fi very few villains have had as cool design as the Shadows, and I want more of that sort of thing.
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GreenNight posted:When I was in elementary school in the 80s we played smear the queer all the time and I had no idea what it meant. I had a friend through high school and college who would incessantly parrot slurs “ironically” thanks to South Park jokes, including f****t, the n-word, “queer”, and that stupid loving Cartman thing where he’d accuse Jewish folks of carrying bags of gold around their necks. I wonder if he still does that poo poo now that several of our mutual friends (who he still hangs out with) have come out. Basically, gently caress South Park for trying to continue that poo poo “ironically” and gently caress that guy in particular.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I had a friend through high school and college who would incessantly parrot slurs “ironically” thanks to South Park jokes, including f****t, the n-word, “queer”, and that stupid loving Cartman thing where he’d accuse Jewish folks of carrying bags of gold around their necks. I wonder if he still does that poo poo now that several of our mutual friends (who he still hangs out with) have come out. my brain initially read that as "come out [as Jewish]" and I was very confused
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LionArcher posted:why can't a billionaire like Babylon 5 and buy it from WB for like 200 million, and then give JMS the rights and a four or five year commitment to a new series I think its like one of those Stargate things where there's still some mega high up exec who either loving hates it and won't let anyone have it or loves it but not enough to try and relaunch the franchise with any effort. Stargate got a recent "series" that was like a super early prequel set in the 1900s in the form of 10 minute webisodes that no one watched on MGM's Stargate Command streaming service.
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. I want more B5 with modern day effects. (and re do the old effects and then put them out on Blu-ray finally).
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DogsInSpace! posted:Watched that not long ago and it's fairly decent. The "f and I don't mean gently caress" bombs are a plenty and are a hard reminder of how things used to be. How normalized some things were. Wasn't born when that was made but they toss it around in a kids movie like it was nothing because, back then, it was nothing. Just like it was on this site a decade ago. Reminds me how I read they just now pulled the blatantly racist spokesperson for Aunt Jemima syrup and Uncle Bens rice. Monster Squad makers weren't being hateful... that is just how things were and what kids said. That poo poo can be ingrained and it's so insidious. All that said, aside from the f bombs, it's a fairly cute movie. Except Willow. Willow is clear.
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THIS SUNDAY. MIDNIGHT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Hmp65tuK8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnpL91NZcWo Gonz fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Oct 21, 2020 |
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pentyne posted:I think its like one of those Stargate things where there's still some mega high up exec who either loving hates it and won't let anyone have it or loves it but not enough to try and relaunch the franchise with any effort. A British radio company called Big Finish had the rights to do audios a few years back based on SG-1 and Atlantis, starring people like Michael Shanks, Claudia Black, and Christopher Judge among others, and then MGM pulled the rights to such an extent that the company wasn't even allowed to sell them anymore.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Basically, gently caress South Park for trying to continue that poo poo “ironically” and gently caress that guy in particular. STAC Goat posted:I just watched the Scream, Queen! My Nightmare on Elm Street documentary and at one point they do a montage of how prevalent that slur was in media in the 80s and 90s and it was like this brutal direct shot at all of my nostalgic favorites. Its at a point where I'm scared to revisit something I liked before 2005 or so for fear that they'll just start screaming slurs the whole time. LionArcher posted:set it later on the timeline. New cast. Just same universe. Basically in sci-fi very few villains have had as cool design as the Shadows, and I want more of that sort of thing. Never seen Legend of the Rangers but I thought that was a sound concept. Just no prequels. I am so sick of hearing the term prequel and don't even care if they do a good job of it. Forward momentum is always good as are taking chances.... just not this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4l2fzK7aXc
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Disney is striking a good balance with their disclaimers on Disney+quote:"This program includes negative depictions and/or mistreatment of people or cultures. These stereotypes were wrong then and are wrong now. Rather than remove this content, we want to acknowledge its harmful impact, learn from it and spark conversation to create a more inclusive future together." I think the new wording is good because it replaces the idea of 'outdated' with the concept that yes, it was wrong then too. Culture evolving didn't make the thing wrong, it made us able to acknowledge that it was wrong all along. It's October so I'm watching basically all horror movies right now with a special emphasis on the 70s and 80s. Some I haven't seen before (like "The Omen") and some I own and haven't watched in awhile (Dawn/Day of the Dead.) Man, older horror is a mixed bag. Both "Dead" movies use racial slurs in places, though only by people that are shown to be comic book level bad. I can't decide if that's a good thing or a bad thing. On one hand, they are careful to make sure no one that we would have empathy for uses them, but lumping them with over the top evil behavior paints the picture that only over the top evil people talk that way which I think limits the level of discourse. Not that those movies are the most subtle thing in the world either though. The bigger thing is that I don't recall those bits sticking out as plainly the last time I watched those movies which bothers me about myself because it's not like the last time I watched them was in the 80s. Another thing that happened in two different movies (The Omen and Dawn of the Dead) were the men talking privately about whether or not a woman who wasn't part of the conversation should abort her baby, implying heavily that it was the guy's decision. "Dawn" at least has a moment of dialog afterwards that shows that it was not ok, but "The Omen" basically plays it straight.
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I think there's a fine line and I really don't know what the right answer is. Like should 30 Rock pull their blackface episodes because that's hosed up no one should have to see it and risk being blindsided by it on a show that really isn't that kind of thing 99% of the time. Does that give them a pass and we should leave it there so we remember it happened and how easily it is to forget? I can certainly understand that argument. I don't know which is the right way. A clear warning like that Disney+ one is certainly probably the best middle ground. I'm still not sure if its enough with everything. Like can you watch Gone With The Wind and just say "Woah, slavery and marriage rape is very wrong!" and be ok? I dunno. Can the Hangover work if you tell people its gonna drop the f slur every 90 seconds? Does it even deserve to be seen then? But we don't want to censor it. I dunno. Its weird and complicated. bull3964 posted:Both "Dead" movies STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Oct 21, 2020 |
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STAC Goat posted:
Yeah, but I did call out which ones I was talking about earlier.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I had a friend through high school and college who would incessantly parrot slurs “ironically” thanks to South Park jokes, including f****t, the n-word, “queer”, and that stupid loving Cartman thing where he’d accuse Jewish folks of carrying bags of gold around their necks. I wonder if he still does that poo poo now that several of our mutual friends (who he still hangs out with) have come out. I liked some South Park episodes (and the movie) growing up but I will never forgive it for its ironic racism bullshit. I grew up in a very predominantly white area and absolutely loved being called Token all the time. One of my other friends got called Jewboy non-stop as well. I've carried a grudge against the show for like 20 years because of that.
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bull3964 posted:Yeah, but I did call out which ones I was talking about earlier. Yeah, like I said I can even guess at the characters you're talking about (the racist dad in Night and the racist cop in Dawn). I was just being a pedantic nerd.
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, like I said I can even guess at the characters you're talking about (the racist dad in Night and the racist cop in Dawn). I was just being a pedantic nerd. Heh, I wasn't even talking about Night. I was talking about Dawn and Day (so racist cop in Dawn and racist soldier in Day.)
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I don't really have a problem with it in the sort of context of Romero's films. Like he's making a point that the racists are the bad guys and even if he claimed he was never doing it deliberately he always had women and black men as his protagonists/"heroes." I can see the argument of if you make only the bad guys the racists you gloss past racism in everyone, but that's a lot of nuance for a zombie film and it still comes down to "racists are the bad guys even if they hide it or whatever. Its those incidents where people were just tossing it around casually without any regard that stand out. And then there's the weird stuff like 30 Rock where they acknowledged blackface was way bad but also still actually did it so... wha?
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https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/1318980496035074048 Y'all wanna buy Quibi lol
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/1318980496035074048 Quibi has been a very entertaining disaster and I'll miss it when it's gone.
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STAC Goat posted:I don't really have a problem with it in the sort of context of Romero's films. Like he's making a point that the racists are the bad guys and even if he claimed he was never doing it deliberately he always had women and black men as his protagonists/"heroes." I can see the argument of if you make only the bad guys the racists you gloss past racism in everyone, but that's a lot of nuance for a zombie film and it still comes down to "racists are the bad guys even if they hide it or whatever. I don't have a problem with it either, I think my point was how I viewed it is different. Prior watches-> These are all really bad people because they are racist and doing bad things. Now -> These people are loving racist which makes them bad people. They also do a lot of other bad things which isn't surprising since they are racist. My contextualization of them changed. I feel like in the 80s and 90s it wasn't enough for people to use racial slurs to frame them as truly bad people since there was so much casual use. They had to add over the top stuff like blowing someone's head off with a shotgun or really piling on the racism as a defining character trait to really hammer it home. Again, yeah, I admitted that Romero zombie movies aren't the most subtle things in the world and these may not have all be conscious choices. But I think it does make the case how examining older media like this can be a catalyst for introspection.
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Sacha Baron Cohen ladies and gentlemen https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1318977371681193990 I cannot for the life of me find a clip. Airs on Friday on Amazon apparently.
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I think it's pretty clear at this point that Republicans don't give a poo poo about that stuff when it's their own people and it won't change anything. They tried to defend Roy Moore to the bitter end for much worse.
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MiddleOne posted:Sacha Baron Cohen ladies and gentlemen Oh my God this is like, way too good to be true Oh my God lol
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I'm literally dying. He's too goddamned stupid to have known it was a setup.
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Rhyno posted:I'm literally dying. https://twitter.com/freedlander/status/1318991124787331074?s=20
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From an article on The Hill:quote:“I only later realized it must have been Sacha Baron Cohen," he said. "I thought about all the people he previously fooled and I felt good about myself because he didn’t get me.” Yeah I guess they didn't catch you with your dick literally in your hands so you come out looking good Rudy.
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What show would be hacky enough to have a plot where a guy who is pushing a spurious theory about a candidate's troubled child and his vague "involvement" with underage girls - but it turns out that that guy was actually the one doing that. Getting into the lower tier NCISes I'd say
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It's probably important to note that the actress in the scene is reportedly 24, and that Guiliani tried to leave immediately after Baron Cohen came in with the "she's 15!" line. So while he's definitely an absolute idiot, he's probably not a pedophilic idiot.
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I've been enjoying the Showtime documentary series about The Comedy Store quite a bit. After years of listening to Marc Maron's podcast, it's fun to finally put faces to all the mythical names that pop up in their conversations. As a foreigner it's particularly interesting seeing those old superstar comedians I've never even heard of, like Freddie Prinze and Andrew Dice Clay, and discovering that Michael Keaton used to do stand-up. The opening credits music is fantastic too.
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Uncle Lloyd posted:It's probably important to note that the actress in the scene is reportedly 24, and that Guiliani tried to leave immediately after Baron Cohen came in with the "she's 15!" line. So while he's definitely an absolute idiot, he's probably not a pedophilic idiot. Ah so he's just a regular creep who was preparing to gently caress someone he just met and is 1/3 his age, good to know.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Ah so he's just a regular creep who was preparing to gently caress someone he just met and is 1/3 his age, good to know. When was this shot? Before or after his wife left him?
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Rhyno posted:When was this shot? Before or after his wife left him? It was shot this year. I don't know which wife Guiliani is on at this point, number three? Four? e: re: qubi, it's real cool that executives can run a company into the ground in under a year while getting massive salaries and still be able to go on to work at other companies where they will receive massive salaries as they run them into the ground. hurray america. ONE YEAR LATER fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Oct 21, 2020 |
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