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That is the best part of what we thought was Early Access-exclusive material, and I'm so glad those cheesy lines are available for all the world to see. The other 'underworld renovations' material was a it more low-key (a few lines from Hades, possibly forever gone now), but those are great and I'm glad they're still in.
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Oct 21, 2020 14:54
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Sydin posted:Ah are we showing off insane builds? The purple attack chaos boon alone upsets me. Every time I stumble into a build that makes me go "huh, this is feeling like an Attack build sort of run", Chaos gives me nothing but cast crystals and resource boosts, which leads me to pulling this face  for the entire run.
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Oct 21, 2020 14:54
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 Getting Athena's legendary in Tartarus is kind of a difficulty coup.
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Oct 21, 2020 15:36
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Serephina posted:That is the best part of what we thought was Early Access-exclusive material, and I'm so glad those cheesy lines are available for all the world to see. The other 'underworld renovations' material was a it more low-key (a few lines from Hades, possibly forever gone now), but those are great and I'm glad they're still in. I'm still stunned by the writing in this game from start to finish (e) Funky Valentine posted:
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Oct 21, 2020 15:40
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Ciaphas posted:I'm still stunned by the writing in this game from start to finish I don't think I'd beeline for Divine Protection during a normal run, but it's a nice-to-have when stumbled upon while trying to get Athena to show up for other boons.
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Oct 21, 2020 16:07
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Ciaphas posted:I'm still stunned by the writing in this game from start to finish Its actually really good, because in general you're more likely to take occasional chip damage compared to a whole bunch at once (which is usually from a fight you're not great at or boons aren't really together yet for some bosses). So it is quite a bit of effective health, and sometimes you can play more aggressively knowing that you can absorb the next hit. Also on bosses you can pair it with the acorn and having just a crazy buffer of hits. If you want to try another amusing but not too crazy build, take the hidden sword aspect, the mirror aspect that increases chance for rare boons, and aphrodite keepsake. Aim to get aphrodite's +max health from hearts boon, and just take as much health as you can (the mirror option opposite rare boons decreases the number of hearts you'll see). The boon stuff I'd aim for is aphro cast (because while its good on attack, the windup can be hell and sometimes you just want the weak effect on them asap), and artemis on attack (sword has huge base damage, crits are stupid big). If you can get poseidon dash and breaking wave that'd be best, otherwise aphro dash and some sort of aoe clear cast (ie zues/poseidon/athena) will make styx less of an annoying slog. Then keep an eye out for the hammer that gives +200% dmg to backstabs, and/or the +200% dmg +crit on third swing. Sword hits are so big you'll be pretty easily carried by hammers and crits, so after you get your basic functionality you can just lean into anything that makes you harder to kill.
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Oct 21, 2020 16:53
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Wilekat posted:The purple attack chaos boon alone upsets me. Every time I stumble into a build that makes me go "huh, this is feeling like an Attack build sort of run", Chaos gives me nothing but cast crystals and resource boosts, which leads me to pulling this face Cast crystals own, they're 100% more cast by volume
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Oct 21, 2020 16:56
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Maybe this will change once I get above the 8-10 heat range I’m currently at but spear is becoming one of my favorites, with hades spin debuff it’s quite damaging and some of the hammers for it are really quite powerful such as big spin, quick spin and rapid attack. it definitely felt like a weaker weapon with no aspect upgrades next to the other weapons with no aspect upgrades but the hades debuff is substantial.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:00
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Ciaphas posted:TBH a 20s recharge on that makes it seem kinda meh to me (I say, but Dread Arengee hasn't seen fit to actually give me that legendary yet
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Oct 21, 2020 17:00
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:Maybe this will change once I get above the 8-10 heat range I’m currently at but spear is becoming one of my favorites, with hades spin debuff it’s quite damaging and some of the hammers for it are really quite powerful such as big spin, quick spin and rapid attack. it definitely felt like a weaker weapon with no aspect upgrades next to the other weapons with no aspect upgrades but the hades debuff is substantial. Spear was my favorite weapon at the beginning (no-aspect). Better range on attack than the other melee weapons, without the downsides (charge time/reload) of the ranged weapons. The special is good and is a nice compliment for the attack.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:23
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Something people miss about the spear is that you can build it around the special rather than the attack. It's like the bow but with a free backstab and no charging time. It staggers enemies too.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:34
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Funky Valentine posted:Maxed Zag fists, Greater Evasion, feather, Athena dash, and Divine Protection result in a situation where basically nothing hits you until Styx. As an adjunct to other dodges it does make a lot more sense, true I should try to gun for that Legendary, actually. it'd suit my mad-lad never stop dash-attacking playstyle. Too bad about the prerequisite. Oh boy, 110% more dash-attack damage 
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Oct 21, 2020 17:34
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Something people miss about the spear is that you can build it around the special rather than the attack. It's like the bow but with a free backstab and no charging time. It staggers enemies too.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:36
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The only good Spear build is the triple-dash-attack hammer. Almost nothing else actually increases damage or survivability, and nothing in the moveset lets you do a damage spike after a dodge on a boss, so you have to focus on incremental damage over time to do anything meaningful at all. The game is still winnable even with a gimpy build and weapon, but the spear is just worse than the rest of the weapons by not having any niche in terms of speed, power, utility, or synergy.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:54
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It's a jack of all trades and I like it for that. Nothing fiddly, good range, and versatile. Also hades spear with a good attack boon is enough to win a run comfortably by itself
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Oct 21, 2020 18:10
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Getting the spin attack range hammer with the hades spear allows you to hit the entire screen basically It’s a lot of fun
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Oct 21, 2020 18:14
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Folks, even though I just have some ancillary cheevos to get and other misc. things, I've decided to continue to play Hades until the next game that I wanna play comes out (Valhalla). The gameplay and progression structures are just that good. Also I'm about 200 hrs in and I'm still getting unique dialogue. This game is an insane value.
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Oct 21, 2020 19:00
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Something people miss about the spear is that you can build it around the special rather than the attack. It's like the bow but with a free backstab and no charging time. It staggers enemies too. Zagreus aspect particularly lends itself to this.
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Oct 21, 2020 19:29
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Achillies Spear is good for building around special, Hades is good for building around attack. Zag is... not good. Guan Yu is loving garbage.
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Oct 21, 2020 19:30
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Guan Yu is very very good built around special
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Oct 21, 2020 19:31
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Can I just say that Persephone's underworld outfit is a look?
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Oct 21, 2020 19:36
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zoux posted:Guan Yu is very very good built around special What's the build? My problem with Guan Yu is less it's special and more that in the time it takes to charge up one of those life steal disks, you have already been dogpiled by half the room.
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Oct 21, 2020 19:38
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Sydin posted:What's the build? My problem with Guan Yu is less it's special and more that in the time it takes to charge up one of those life steal disks, you have already been dogpiled by half the room. get the hammer that makes spin attack faster is the build basically. im pretty sure that option is more likely when using guan yu. the spin attack does ridiculous amounts of dmg with good buffs, besides the healing
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Oct 21, 2020 19:50
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Guan Yu special has higher base damage, a larger hit box, pierces enemies, and doesn't need to be retrieved. I fell rear end-first into a Special build the first time I ever used it and cleared the run. For frame of reference, I am incredibly bad at the game.
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Oct 21, 2020 19:55
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Sydin posted:What's the build? My problem with Guan Yu is less it's special and more that in the time it takes to charge up one of those life steal disks, you have already been dogpiled by half the room. Guan Yu's special is good because it does a lot of damage and hits a big AOE, but it's also got a slow refire rate so the sustained DPS isn't there without a solid attack+dash attack+cast backbone.
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Oct 21, 2020 19:59
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Shield sucks now that chaos aspect was nerfed Not that's it's actually bad, blocking will always be OP, but it's just dull to play with, and it's the only weapon that I sometimes have trouble making the 7 minute time limit
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Oct 21, 2020 19:59
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Sydin posted:What's the build? My problem with Guan Yu is less it's special and more that in the time it takes to charge up one of those life steal disks, you have already been dogpiled by half the room. Charged skewer + Artemis is best, ignore attack/spin, unless you wanna put a debuff on it like doom or weak. Then spam special.
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Oct 21, 2020 20:01
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Get the Artemis flourish on Guan Yu and then aggressively hunt for chaos boons that boost the special. Then run around hurling gigantic piercing death harpoons across the battlefield. I like to pair it with the Ares boon that gives you +150% damage on your next attack after you kill something, and the Artemis marking boon. Toss a special at a marked target, kill it with a crit, then toss at the next marked target and one shot that one too. Repeat until everything is dead. Only use the life steal spin to farm health when you know it's safe. Dashing across a terrain feature and charging it while the last few melee guys path around it, that kind of thing. Khizan fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Oct 21, 2020 |
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Oct 21, 2020 20:04
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wyoak posted:Shield sucks now that chaos aspect was nerfed Nerfed when? Was there a patch recently?
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Oct 21, 2020 20:08
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I noticed a new thing following the credits. During one of the various "dad being an rear end in a top hat" flashbacks that proceed escape attempts he says "your place is here" to which Zag says "He's right."
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Oct 21, 2020 20:20
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minya posted:Nerfed when? Was there a patch recently? nah it was a while ago, either at 1.0 or right before
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Oct 21, 2020 20:32
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Ciaphas posted:omfg Zag Sideshow Bobs himself to death in one ending.
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Oct 21, 2020 20:34
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I've decided casts are: dumb.
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Oct 21, 2020 20:35
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zoux posted:I've decided casts are: dumb. Aphrodite has the absolute worst cast in the game, and it needs a rework. The Artemis/Demeter duo cast is the best thing you could ever ask for
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Oct 21, 2020 20:40
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Harold Fjord posted:I noticed a new thing following the credits. During one of the various "dad being an rear end in a top hat" flashbacks that proceed escape attempts he says "your place is here" to which Zag says "He's right." Yeah a lot of the flashback dialogue changes post credits, it's a nice touch. I just saw (post epilogue spoiler) Zag's face up on the employee of the week board, at which point you can talk to Hades and go "Must kill you to see me of all people up there."  and Hades replies "I'm the one who has final say on who wins, moron. I put you up there because you're doing a good job.Aww 
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Oct 21, 2020 20:58
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What does pierce mean for attacks? I thought anything your attack moved over took damage.
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Oct 21, 2020 21:05
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SmallpoxJenkins posted:Aphrodite has the absolute worst cast in the game, and it needs a rework. All Crush Shot needs is a faster animation. Even with Flurry Shot it's way too slow.
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Oct 21, 2020 21:05
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:What does pierce mean for attacks? I thought anything your attack moved over took damage. Pierce means exactly what the name implies. Theseus and the shield bois are no longer safe from your attacks, anyone behind whoever you're shooting is gonna feel the pain also, and having it on the rail makes very short work of any problems.
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Oct 21, 2020 21:08
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Sydin posted:Yeah a lot of the flashback dialogue changes post credits, it's a nice touch. The hades-zagreus dynamic throughout the whole story is the best
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