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There’s also Tony’s complaint in “Remember When” about Paulie never bothering to get a legitimate source of income for tax purposes, plausible deniability, etc. A lot of guys also count on that sort of thing for an income stream that won’t dry up because of an investigation or bust. Paulie relies solely on scores, no matter how small and/or petty.
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I don't think Paulie is struggling. I think he's just greedy and any time he feels like he's being shortchanged on money he's going to bring it up. "I need that money for my long range planning" is just his way of seeing he wants he feels like he has earned. I doubt he actually "needs" that money. But if he admitted that Tony would tell him to gently caress off, so he makes a stink about how he actually needs the money.
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Oct 21, 2020 15:06
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I think I'm mostly just mad at him for kneecapping Jason. I don't think he really needed to do that for the money, it was just his hosed up way of processing emotion. You gotta love the show though, for tricking you into almost feeling a little sympathetic for Paulie, with the scene where he has to step out into the hallway to cry after Jason's mother pleads for his life, and you think that maybe he's about to have some kind of breakthrough. But then it reminds you that no, this guy still sucks actually, shame on you for forgetting that
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Oct 21, 2020 15:14
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They do something similar with Benny. He was becoming almost lovable, and got a bunch of sympathy after Phil cracked his skull open, but then “Luxury Lounge” comes around where he’s cheating on his pregnant wife and pulling a credit card scam at loving Vesuvio of all places.
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Oct 21, 2020 15:47
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Pope Corky the IX posted:There’s also Tony’s complaint in “Remember When” about Paulie never bothering to get a legitimate source of income for tax purposes, plausible deniability, etc. A lot of guys also count on that sort of thing for an income stream that won’t dry up because of an investigation or bust. Paulie relies solely on scores, no matter how small and/or petty. Well he had his Barone recycling position for years so hes not totally without legit income. He just didn't replace it when the company was sold.
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Oct 21, 2020 16:13
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GoutPatrol posted:The mob itself is like a huge loving pyramid scheme. These aren't the Scarface millionaires, and the people only 3-4 rungs down the totem pole are living like they got two minimum wage jobs. And if someone who has read enough mob books can correct me, that's basically how it was on the real thing in the 70s-80s. Ralphie, the biggest earner they had, was living in a post war in a lovely apartment in northern jersey, not even a detached split level! What? Ralphies home where he makes Tony eggs looks pretty nice?
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banned from Starbucks posted:Well he had his Barone recycling position for years so hes not totally without legit income. He just didn't replace it when the company was sold.  One of the best shots in the series.
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Oct 21, 2020 20:51
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Vichan posted:
This man deserves to be honored in the museum of science and trucking.
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Oct 21, 2020 21:06
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Paulie kneecapping Jason Barone always stuck with me. Yeah the guy's got some family money from the sale of the company and probably a decent income on top of that, but how many people could (or would) just fork over 48k a year to some rear end in a top hat in another state for no reason whatsoever?
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Characters like Jason Barone, Sal Vitro, Artie, Adriana, the waiter, the witness protection guy are all there to remind you that no matter how much you love the main characters, they are all pieces of poo poo that deserve the worst.
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Oct 21, 2020 21:17
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Human Tornada posted:Paulie kneecapping Jason Barone always stuck with me. Yeah the guy's got some family money from the sale of the company and probably a decent income on top of that, but how many people could (or would) just fork over 48k a year to some rear end in a top hat in another state for no reason whatsoever? Yeah that one really sucks. Even before that, Jason was stressing about how he was going to manage because he was about to have to sell the company at a loss, so you get the impression he's not exactly swimming in wealth; now he just barely scrapes out of that hole and he has to come up with $4,000 month to Paulie because he was in a bad mood and just kind of thought he could get away with it. veni veni veni posted:Characters like Jason Barone, Sal Vitro, Artie, Adriana, the waiter, the witness protection guy are all there to remind you that no matter how much you love the main characters, they are all pieces of poo poo that deserve the worst. Totally, and I appreciate it about the show. It happens often enough to ground you back in reality, but not so often that it beats you over the head with it, at least not in my opinion.
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Yeah, it's effective. I mean, Paulie is one of my favorite characters on the show, but I was still kind of disappointed that he actually survived the series lol.
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veni veni veni posted:Characters like Jason Barone, Sal Vitro, Artie, Adriana, the waiter, the witness protection guy are all there to remind you that no matter how much you love the main characters, they are all pieces of poo poo that deserve the worst. Cossette
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BiggerBoat posted:Cossette She clearly just crawled under there for warmth
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Matt Zerella posted:What? Ralphies home where he makes Tony eggs looks pretty nice? This is again me growing up in North Jersey and knowing the areas. I went and looked up the shooting location, his place is in Little Falls. Like...the top earner should be doing better. Shithole may be too strong a word...very modest for a man of his supposed income.
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Oct 22, 2020 00:18
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veni veni veni posted:Yeah, it's effective. I mean, Paulie is one of my favorite characters on the show, but I was still kind of disappointed that he actually survived the series lol. Guys like Paulie probably fantasize and fetishize the violent death of legendary gangsters and probably aspired to someday leave the world in a similar fashion, which is why living til he’s old, decrepit, and forgotten in Jersey, like Bobby’s dad, is a fate worse than death.
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ruddiger posted:Guys like Paulie probably fantasize and fetishize the violent death of legendary gangsters and probably aspired to someday leave the world in a similar fashion, which is why living til he’s old, decrepit, and forgotten in Jersey, like Bobby’s dad, is a fate worse than death. The funny part there is Bobby Sr. had a much more impressive rep than Paulie. Paulie's still known for jacking a load of his nickname's sake.
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GoutPatrol posted:This is again me growing up in North Jersey and knowing the areas. I went and looked up the shooting location, his place is in Little Falls. Like...the top earner should be doing better. Shithole may be too strong a word...very modest for a man of his supposed income. I men, I’m from Long Island, so not too far and that house looked fine to me. Dude owned a racehorse.
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Matt Zerella posted:I men, I’m from Long Island, so not too far and that house looked fine to me. Dude owned a racehorse. His maid owned a racehorse. Ralph aint no dummy when it comes to hiding his money.
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Oct 22, 2020 01:11
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Gotta live modest if you're only declaring a modest income! Ralphie ain't no sucker.
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Oct 23, 2020 01:43
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Ben Kingsley is so good in this show
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Oct 27, 2020 01:02
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Ainsley McTree posted:Ben Kingsley is so good in this show His quiet,"....fucccccccck..." to his assistant is such an amazing line delivery 
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Oct 27, 2020 03:07
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Ainsley McTree posted:Ben Kingsley is so good in this show It kinda reminds me of the celebrities that go onto Curb and then act like huge rear end in a top hat versions of themselves. I love it.
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Jerusalem posted:His quiet,"....fucccccccck..." to his assistant is such an amazing line delivery That preceded by him seeing Chris and Murmur on the plane and threatening to lose his composure for just a hair of a split second before pasting a polite smile back onto his face was some incredible face acting. I'll also never get enough of how easily lying to save face comes to the characters on this show. Chris reporting back to Tony "he was crazy about us but he wasn't right for the project" was just great. I also really enjoyed the moment of Artie and Charmane in the kitchen at the end, where Artie playfully but firmly shoos her away with "out!" as he slips back into chef mode and she quietly leaves him to it. I'm not quite 100% sold that Artie earned that reconciliation (it kind of just happens off screen between episodes, doesn't it?) but it's a sweet moment and I love it nonetheless; someone in this show deserves to have a happy ending at least.
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I like Artie, he's an idiot but I think he wound up in a pretty good place all things considered. He made it through being friends with Tony, and not many people can say that.
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Oct 27, 2020 19:17
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Someone post the Artie at crazy horse hand thing gif.
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Was there some scene where Tony meets some guy at a diner and he gives him a painting and then Tony has him killed for snitching or did I just fabricate the whole thing. It's been forever since I've seen the show and I might not have even finished it e: it's not the horse painting I don't think
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Milo and POTUS posted:Was there some scene where Tony meets some guy at a diner and he gives him a painting and then Tony has him killed for snitching or did I just fabricate the whole thing. It's been forever since I've seen the show and I might not have even finished it That happens, yeah. It's Dick (i think) Barone, the guy who runs Barone sanitation and got flipped by the FBI into an informant (he was wearing a mic under his hat, I think). It was a painting of the rat pack and Tony threw it off a bridge
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Oct 27, 2020 19:50
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Matt Zerella posted:Someone post the Artie at crazy horse hand thing gif. 
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Ainsley McTree posted:That happens, yeah. It's Dick (i think) Barone, the guy who runs Barone sanitation and got flipped by the FBI into an informant (he was wearing a mic under his hat, I think). It was a painting of the rat pack and Tony threw it off a bridge The hilarious tip off was him saying he thought Tony lost weight.
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Ainsley McTree posted:That happens, yeah. It's Dick (i think) Barone, the guy who runs Barone sanitation and got flipped by the FBI into an informant (he was wearing a mic under his hat, I think). It was a painting of the rat pack and Tony threw it off a bridge Tony didn't have him killed though iirc. Doesn't he die in the final season from natural causes when Jason inherits the company?
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I've seen this gif so many times every person's expression is engraved into my memory. Hilarious.
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veni veni veni posted:Tony didn't have him killed though iirc. Doesn't he die in the final season from natural causes when Jason inherits the company? I had the wrong character! It was Jack Massarone, not Dick Barone, and he ran a construction company, not trash. I don't think Barone ever flipped.
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Oct 27, 2020 20:09
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veni veni veni posted:Tony didn't have him killed though iirc. Doesn't he die in the final season from natural causes when Jason inherits the company? I loved Tony storming in angry because he wasn't able to tell if someone was lying or not after declaring he'd be able to tell.
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Was it even a painting, I thought it was one of those tacky mixed-media/collage things you see at Bed Bath & Beyond and wonder who on Earth buys that crap.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I had the wrong character! It was Jack Massarone, not Dick Barone, and he ran a construction company, not trash. I don't think Barone ever flipped. Ah. yeah. I had the two of them mixed up as well. Massarone was such a non character that when all that poo poo was going on I was like “who is this guy again?” Human Tornada posted:Was it even a painting, I thought it was one of those tacky mixed-media/collage things you see at Bed Bath & Beyond and wonder who on Earth buys that crap. Haha yeah, it was some sort of insanely gaudy collage. Tony also loved it until he realized he was being played.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I loved Tony storming in angry because he wasn't able to tell if someone was lying or not after declaring he'd be able to tell. It would have been far too comedic but I almost wish they'd just gone straight from,"I'll be able to tell if he's lying..." to him storming back into the room going,"What am I? A loving mindreader!?!"
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Human Tornada posted:Was it even a painting, I thought it was one of those tacky mixed-media/collage things you see at Bed Bath & Beyond and wonder who on Earth buys that crap. it was some lovely Rat Pack painting thing
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I finished the end of season 6A on my rewatch and I remembered that the first time I watched this show, I knew that the ending was divisive, but I somehow didn't know there was a season 6B, so I was like oh yeah I guess that's a little sudden. What little I knew... Also, not gonna lie, seeing a scene of a bunch of friends and family sitting indoors together for the holidays is hitting a little hard right now
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