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Reclines Obesily posted:same thing happened when moona joined the JP ark server, she got harassed by some epic gamers on twitter that demanded she leave honestly fight fire with fire on this one, see these people and harrass them relentlessly
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trucutru posted:Some of the most experienced girls (specially from the original generation) do interact with men, although it's usually Tamaki (who is fine because the person behind is a woman). Baby steps. V-Tubers are hitting that toxic K-Pop/Idol fanbase too where even the rumors of having a boyfriend is enough for a girl to get death threats
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I kind of think that as long as Hololive tries to present itself as sincerely idol-adjacent the issue is going to stick around Now granted, their entire stance as an operation could change, but they'd have to be willing to risk the loss of the really obsessive possessive types. And the longer it goes on, the more entrenched it becomes (which is why the best way to inoculate your channel against it is to collabo with guys early and often, before people start making Love Live-rear end assumptions about your content)
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RealFoxy posted:Based off the fanbases of Jinnytty and Pokimane, two of the biggest women on Twitch I don't have much faith. They've harassed men they've interacted with so hard they've either quit streaming or swore off interacting with women on the platform again altogether. Also, it only takes a tiny, vocal minority to cause huge problems on a platform like twitter, if .01% of Kiara's subscribers decided to take offense over this incredibly minor thing that's still a few hundred angry morons shrieking at you on twitter overnight and that is enough to make a lot of people just say "gently caress this, I'm out". I'm not really sure what the solution is since there will always be morons getting angry over petty things that most people don't care about. 
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Matsuri and fubuki collab with guys. Fubuki especially doesn't care, to the point of mocking those anti's during the towa incident. She announced she had a boyfriend only to fake out and reveal it was a cat instead when she baited enough dislikes.
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Well I'm glad that Huke is still participating in the chat during her stream, he seemed to find it funny (considering his line of work I'm pretty sure he's keenly aware of the types of fans that can arise from it all). I really like the fact that the EN group has "supporting characters" along with the girls, it really adds some depth to the EN side of things and makes it feel less lonely. I'm not that keyed into the JP girl's chat for obvious reasons, but do any of them have "side characters" as part of their gimmick?
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Lyer posted:Well I'm glad that Huke is still participating in the chat during her stream, he seemed to find it funny (considering his line of work I'm pretty sure he's keenly aware of the types of fans that can arise from it all). I really like the fact that the EN group has "supporting characters" along with the girls, it really adds some depth to the EN side of things and makes it feel less "lonely". I'm not that keyed into the JP girl's chat for obvious reasons, but do any of them have "side characters" as part of their gimmick? Well A-chan started as Sora's tech support and Suisei's got her sister Anemachi who shows up pretty often. Subaru also collabs pretty often with Ui-mama but she's a vtuber in her own right so that's a bit murky Can't remember anyone else showing up that often. In general when the JP girls mention their managers it's usually just an offhand comment usually about them reigning them in a little bit
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OnimaruXLR posted:I kind of think that as long as Hololive tries to present itself as sincerely idol-adjacent the issue is going to stick around It's not necessarily that they're worried about losing the really obsessive possessive types as viewers/fans, it's that the really obsessive possessive types can very easily generate enormously disproportional levels of harassment when the streaming personality does something that doesn't fit their warped ideas of what's "proper". It's a nasty high wire act because the only way to deal with it is for the streamer to be willing to power through a bunch of fuckheads harassing them online(and possibly in real life if they get doxxed successfully) constantly, which not everyone has the courage or emotional/mental fortitude to handle(completely understandably, of course, because that poo poo is both extremely scary and incredibly draining to deal with). You're right in that the longer it goes on, the more likely it is to calcify. Fubuki and Matsuri collab fairly regularly with men and are both very blase and give-no-fucks about internet harassment, which means that the type of fan who puts their vtuber favorite on a pure angel pedestal is less likely to be part of their fanbase in the first place.
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Patware posted:do pekora's poor baffled parents count do you think they ever wonder what their daughter's on about when she shouts pekora baby?
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Squiddycat posted:do you think they ever wonder what their daughter's on about when she shouts pekora baby? soundproofed room, the ultimate tech
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Squiddycat posted:do you think they ever wonder what their daughter's on about when she shouts pekora baby? her room got soundproofed by her parents long before she became any kind of vtuber, according to her in a chat stream lmao
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Patware posted:do pekora's poor baffled parents count As if they would be allowed in her room! Anyways, unless your whole deal is to cultivate parasocial relationships (I'm looking at you Rushia!) the faster the girls start interacting with dudes the better. trucutru fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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Well, she did set out to make a love hotel with Pekora.
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Squiddycat posted:do you think they ever wonder what their daughter's on about when she shouts pekora baby? You reminded me of this video.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYxSiOufwg8
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Kanos posted:You're right in that the longer it goes on, the more likely it is to calcify. Fubuki and Matsuri collab fairly regularly with men and are both very blase and give-no-fucks about internet harassment, which means that the type of fan who puts their vtuber favorite on a pure angel pedestal is less likely to be part of their fanbase in the first place. related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgh_Y2errzI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPruKYr0E1c lmao holy poo poo when she looks over at moona
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It's weird that dudes got mad about huke. Wasn't it the overseas fanbase that rallied behind Towa?
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fwiw huke seems to have taken it with good enough humor, enough to comment "RIP huke" while Kiara was unmaking his room. From how she talked about it, it seems it didn't actually reach the point of being A Problem, but Kiara decided to nip it in the bud right then and there. Probably not the decision this thread would prefer, but perhaps better overall? Hard to tell. Given her previous work as an idol and her troubles therein, she's clearly keenly aware of how lovely the community can get and probably doesn't want to get close to that ever again.
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Even more related: Fubuki and Ouga using a Hitachi Magic Wand Massager https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsRvo6YsHL0
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Eej posted:It's weird that dudes got mad about huke. Wasn't it the overseas fanbase that rallied behind Towa? Despite what people like to pretend being a creeper transcends ethnicity.
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Jerkface posted:Does anyone know if there are any plugins to help unfuck youtube chat? I'm looking for things like being able to isolate chats from verified channels / the OP easily or other stuff of that nature. You can also use this one for some quick and handy filters: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chat-selector-for-youtube/elgbmlibcejchmmfkngbdpdmejbajkll?hl=de
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Lurking Haro posted:Even more related: lmao ive been missing out these are hilarious
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when i was much younger watching minecaft youtube series like yogscast etc, the mere hint of creative mode would make people lose their loving minds so i thought that might have been the problem. however, the manager cheated the locations of biomes for gura and no one cares soooooo its probably cause huke is a dude
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Reclines Obesily posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPruKYr0E1c The whole stream is gold. First lightning hits her bunny house, which causes Peko to find a forgotten wither skel head so she decides to summon the wither. After collecting the materials she runs into Moona so they tag team it, finishing at 1 health with Moona dead. Then they build the beacon below the pekodam, move the lovely 1-star hotel to make room for Miko's Zaku and Moona just starts building something much nicer than Peko could ever do, so she instead goes do the gopher jobs. When she returns a Creeper blows next to Moona and Peko almost dies laughing (and actually does a more natural laugh) before finishing the day. And all of that because lighting hit her house.
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Kyte posted:fwiw huke seems to have taken it with good enough humor, enough to comment "RIP huke" while Kiara was unmaking his room. to be honest, given that she'd even gone so far as to let him in, I kind of think she (or maybe someone in management? but it strikes me as her) is putting out the feelers to find how much she can get away with. given huke seems to be being such a good sport about it i wonder if he went in thinking this was one of the likely outcomes. and given the past life stuff behind your spoilers: i kind of wonder if she was trying to see how fast the warning signs would appear rather than whether they would appear. she knows first hand much lesser things than this will set a certain type off i wouldn't be surprised if she wants to do what fubuki does but just doesn't have the raw star power or untouchability to laugh off dumb nerds getting mad about her breaking the rules Falls Down Stairs fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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Reclines Obesily posted:when i was much younger watching minecaft youtube series like yogscast etc, the mere hint of creative mode would make people lose their loving minds extra rare biomes are a bit different from infinite crossbow
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Eej posted:It's weird that dudes got mad about huke. Wasn't it the overseas fanbase that rallied behind Towa? The timing of Towa's situation meant that a lot of her western followers became aware of her and became fans after(or even because of) the "male voice" drama. This meant that western fans who started watching her regularly were already basically self-selected for "being okay with a vtuber having interactions with members of another gender outside of chat". Plus, as stated above, creepy assholes who latch on to parasocial relationships and react extremely negatively when their idea of the relationship is impugned on exist in all countries and across all ethnicities. The west might not have idol culture psychopaths since we don't really have idols in the same sense that Japan does, but you can see the exact same behavior among people going insane for camgirls.
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For those that were wanting it, Kiara's crane game stream is back up. https://youtu.be/Ay8hHuxdWwk
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the fact that huke was straight up cheating poo poo in was a case of turning too many levers at once. to be labcoat about it, the data's useless, we can't take it as a real sign of how (a statistically significant amount of) people might react to male streamers getting in range of holoen, because there were too many different things that could've gotten people rowdy. like the other thing to factor in is that huke has been super active in kiara's chat and gets a lot of her attention and nobody seems to care about that, so it's all too up in the air
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Nui's finally going 3D and it's going to be extremely dangerous. E: Also while I can't say I knew her very well, today was Kasumi Izumo's final day as a Vtuber and she's expressing her thanks to everyone who has supported her along the way. https://twitter.com/ikasumi_zzz/status/1322503253230149639 Kanfy fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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its a shame we’ll never know now, moona for example did far “worse” and is now the minecraft darlingOnean posted:For those that were wanting it, Kiara's crane game stream is back up. https://youtu.be/Ay8hHuxdWwk i dunno if thats true after watching this
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Patware posted:the fact that huke was straight up cheating poo poo in was a case of turning too many levers at once. to be labcoat about it, the data's useless, we can't take it as a real sign of how (a statistically significant amount of) people might react to male streamers getting in range of holoen, because there were too many different things that could've gotten people rowdy. like the other thing to factor in is that huke has been super active in kiara's chat and gets a lot of her attention and nobody seems to care about that, so Nobody seemed to care about kokorobeats being fairly active in Moris content, and even showing up for the offcollab.
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from the redditquote:This isn't the first time hardcore gamers have been triggered in Hololive. Moona a few months ago started playing ARK with cheat commands enabled to help build stuff faster, and there were some very vocal people complaining that her doing so was "cheapening" the efforts of the other girls playing normally (except, you know, the Hololive ARK server was already cheating with faster taming times and such) so eventually Moona had to delete her character and apologize. hoo boy hadnt heard that last one
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