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nah, I'm okay with it. perfectly encapsulates this topic
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Nov 2, 2020 21:19
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Yes, love a medium where I have to specifically master my bass so the object physically reading the sounds off the surface doesn't bounce out.
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Nov 3, 2020 03:05
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The graceful flow of the needle is what gives it the liquidity.
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Nov 3, 2020 03:35
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:Yes, love a medium where I have to specifically master my bass so the object physically reading the sounds off the surface doesn't bounce out. So you're saying you had to... Drop the bass?
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Nov 3, 2020 04:01
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iospace posted:So you're saying you had to... I can't report your post so please give yourself a sixer 
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Nov 3, 2020 04:05
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the SNR on a vinyl is around what 50-60db? LOL
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Nov 4, 2020 10:52
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Had an engineer tell me with a straight face that CD quality (16bit/44.1kHz) music is very audibly worse than 32-bit vinyl FLAC rips. you called him a loving idiot ?
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Nov 4, 2020 11:16
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Had an engineer tell me with a straight face that CD quality (16bit/44.1kHz) music is very audibly worse than 32-bit vinyl FLAC rips. Did the phrase "Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem" come up a lot?
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Nov 4, 2020 11:48
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I've always said that the best quality is a digital FLAC file. I like the sound of vinyl, but it's a different sound. And I really like the sound of minidisc which I've gotten back into it, and that's compressed to hell and back but it still has a nice quality to it. Hell even cassette can sound great too.
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Nov 4, 2020 14:37
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If you can't afford a live-in orchestra you don't deserve music.
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Nov 4, 2020 15:50
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redeyes posted:the SNR on a vinyl is around what 50-60db? If I recall correctly, Paul Klipsch believed that this was why some people preferred vinyl playback over digital. Not because it was better, but because the added noise was more reminiscent of how live music is experienced. I haven't managed to find the interview/article where I read that, but if I do manage to come across it, I'll post it.
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Nov 4, 2020 18:46
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The audiophile trap isn't preferring analog sound like vinyl or tube amps, it's having to whole-heartedly believe that it is 100% objectively superior because you sank the price of a nice Porsche or not-nice house into your system. "I like analog sound" isn't audiophile, "analog sound is a more pure representation of musical performance" totally is.
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Nov 4, 2020 20:31
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Crime on a Dime posted:you called him a loving idiot ? more like "We're never going to see eye to eye on this one" Bargearse posted:Did the phrase "Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem" come up a lot? He maintained that all humans can hear up to 22kHz at all ages, and there's no benefit to high/low pass filters. You can imagine there wasn't really a whole lot they understood about compression, anatomy, or even the basics behind sampling
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Nov 4, 2020 21:16
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You see the ear canal is still shaped in a way that allows those frequencies to reach the eardrum  What do you mean "google cochlea"?
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Nov 4, 2020 21:25
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More or less. He linked me this... thing which I have no doubt is peppered with wildly misunderstood information, but I refuse to read
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Nov 4, 2020 21:30
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What's it with insane people and walls of text? The right answer to your friend here is a squint of the eye and a "you're a loving moron".
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Nov 4, 2020 21:37
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qirex posted:The audiophile trap isn't preferring analog sound like vinyl or tube amps, it's having to whole-heartedly believe that it is 100% objectively superior because you sank the price of a nice Porsche or not-nice house into your system. "I like analog sound" isn't audiophile, "analog sound is a more pure representation of musical performance" totally is. I can't fault this statement at all. Unfortunately, many manufacturers have forgotten about the former and price things solely in the pursuit of the latter. GonadTheBallbarian posted:He maintained that all humans can hear up to 22kHz at all ages, and there's no benefit to high/low pass filters. At 33 I still could. At 40 I've lost it. I drop out at around 18.5 kHz now and have tinnitus, and it's only going to get worse. But ya, those are some interesting opinions.
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Nov 4, 2020 21:43
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Not a friend, but someone I should be nice to because he's a human and humans are imperfect and we're all idiotic in certain ways. For example, I choose to care about people being wrong about this!
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Nov 4, 2020 21:44
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TheMadMilkman posted:At 33 I still could. At 40 I've lost it. I drop out at around 18.5 kHz now and have tinnitus, and it's only going to get worse. I could still hear up to just over 21khz two years ago, but I had a hearing test last month and I'm down to 18-18.5khz as well. Early high-range hearing loss runs in my Dad's side of the family, hence the regular tests. drat YOU, TINY EAR CANALS!  No tinnitus, though.
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Nov 5, 2020 01:00
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Time for a nice ear-augering. All the rage among audiophile medical tourists.
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Nov 5, 2020 01:19
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High freqs are annoying anyway, maybe I should get ear canal reduction surgery
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Nov 5, 2020 02:35
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TheMadMilkman posted:I can't fault this statement at all. Unfortunately, many manufacturers have forgotten about the former and price things solely in the pursuit of the latter. This is me. At 45 and with constant low-grade tinnitus with bouts of "shut out the world and listen to this siren" tinnitus.
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Nov 5, 2020 14:54
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taqueso posted:High freqs are annoying anyway, maybe I should get ear canal reduction surgery If anyone feels the opposite of this, Victorian ear trumpets are back: https://www.flareaudio.com/pages/earhd
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Nov 7, 2020 15:49
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I’m waiting on Ear4k personally.
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Nov 7, 2020 22:11
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Had an engineer tell me with a straight face that CD quality (16bit/44.1kHz) music is very audibly worse than 32-bit vinyl FLAC rips. I mean, in some cases (lovely masturbatory CD mastering from the peak of the loudness war) it could be better if you ignored the surface noise and clicks and pops. In these cases, it would stiil sound audibly better at 16/44 or probably even in reasonably high bitrate lossy in a modern enough format using a decent enough encoder (with a surprisingly low bar on the last 3 there, 128 kbps-ish mp3 can be surprisingly good using encoders from ~15 years ago). For me, I'll take my spotify, or (to really make audiophool heads explode) my Grateful Dead bootlegs encoded at 96 kbps opus on the go.
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Nov 8, 2020 08:42
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Atom™️ aka Uwe Schmidt has done a really good job of providing all the releases he has the masters for, which appears to be most of his poo poo, in the highest possible quality on bandcamp. some of it is unnecessarily hi fidelity but it is legit and not taken from CD. https://atomtm.bandcamp.com
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Nov 8, 2020 13:06
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlZZeCZsbM4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5phbHe4k1r8
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Nov 8, 2020 13:08
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Crime on a Dime posted:Atom™️ aka Uwe Schmidt has done a really good job of providing all the releases he has the masters for, which appears to be most of his poo poo, in the highest possible quality on bandcamp. some of it is unnecessarily hi fidelity but it is legit and not taken from CD. That is actually a feature of Bandcamp, they let artists upload stuff in stupid high def and then they fill-in the blanks with other formats. Also unlike say Beatport you don't pay extra for lossless. https://twitter.com/GarbageDotNet/status/1256196652957757444 Bandcamp is fuckin sick and IMO is putting the likes of Beatport and Juno on-notice.
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Nov 8, 2020 16:21
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Bandcamp owns incredibly hard, I've been stung by beatport and the like not allowing downloads after the initial purchase. That Bandcamp let's me download anything I've bought at any time in a variety of formats is the best thing ever.
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Nov 8, 2020 17:24
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Nov 9, 2020 01:32
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Pile Of Garbage posted:That is actually a feature of Bandcamp, they let artists upload stuff in stupid high def and then they fill-in the blanks with other formats. Also unlike say Beatport you don't pay extra for lossless. Also, no-one has ever heard of Beatport or Juno.
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Nov 9, 2020 07:10
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Yeah that tweet was the first I've heard of either those sites whereas Bandcamp is everywhere.
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Nov 9, 2020 09:42
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I've bought like one album on Beatport, and not being able to redownload it pissed me off so much that I'm never going to buy anything through them again.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Also, no-one has ever heard of Beatport or Juno. njsykora posted:Yeah that tweet was the first I've heard of either those sites whereas Bandcamp is everywhere. Beatport is aimed at DJs and Juno is a UK site dealing in music and kit so probably has no real pull outside of it I'd imagine. KozmoNaut posted:I've bought like one album on Beatport, and not being able to redownload it pissed me off so much that I'm never going to buy anything through them again. I believe you can re-download once more but I can't remember the process of doing so.
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Nov 9, 2020 10:43
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EL BROMANCE posted:Got some power supply talk heatin’ up in the other thread... Unfortunately noone really had the energy to rebut so now he's got some poor goon shipping a heavy as gently caress old amp around the world so power supply dude can squeeze the liquidity out of it
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Nov 16, 2020 15:05
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I just can't motivate myself to engage with audiophiles or similar types anymore other than a quick post here and there. It's not worth it.
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BurritoJustice posted:Unfortunately noone really had the energy to rebut so now he's got some poor goon shipping a heavy as gently caress old amp around the world so power supply dude can squeeze the liquidity out of it One guy did a couple days later and just got ignored. Also it turns out the guy making the claims is in the audio gear business. Fantastic Foreskin fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Nov 16, 2020 |
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I fell into audiophile Youtube a few days ago looking at headphone reviews and got to laugh at a guy saying if you didn't think having a heavy metal doorstop on your hifi setup improved the sound you were a science denier. At least he said it was a $10 doorstop and not a $150 'resonance damper'.
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