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Ardennes
May 12, 2002

bagual posted:

Yeah the host is azeri, some of his videos were posted earlier in the thread and people discussed his bias, I should have posted the context as well, the maps always defaulting to Azerbaijani claims should tip people off.

There are also arguments like Armenians moving to occupied areas being a "provocation" when Azerbaijan's have been living in Apartments in Baku/villages formerly lived in by Armenians for decades at this point. I always get an "Economist" vibe from whatever he does, he lays out the problem in a relatively none-insane manner and then you get bombarded with whatever obtuse point he is trying to make.

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wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

Ardennes posted:

He is clearly showing his bias in that video btw.


Also, Karabakh wasn't "gerrymandering" the Georgian communists pushed for it to stay with azeribaijan, as they didn't want to set a precedent for losing Ossetia or Abkhazia. In general, in the 1920s, the soviets really did base their republics on ethnographic data, though flawed.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Vasukhani posted:

The part of Sevres which is most overlooked is giving huge swathes of anatolia to the Italians and French. Can you imagine WW2 in Turkey? Assuming Italy still went fascist.

Well, they (The British) secretly promised the same chunk of Anatolia to both the Greeks and the Italians. Once the Italians found out, they pulled out of the coalition's attack on Turkey leaving the Greeks and French to fight alone with only massive British cash subsidies to aid them.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Vasukhani posted:

Also, Karabakh wasn't "gerrymandering" the Georgian communists pushed for it to stay with azeribaijan, as they didn't want to set a precedent for losing Ossetia or Abkhazia. In general, in the 1920s, the soviets really did base their republics on ethnographic data, though flawed.

A part of it as well is that the Soviets simply didn't want to overly favor a particular ethnic group in the region, and the Central Committee of the Azerbaijani SSR responsibility was continuity of oil production not ethnic partisanship (remember there was a bunch of Armenians in Baku working for the oil industry as well). Obviously, it was a compromise that didn't satisfy many.

Also, areas around Karabakh weren't necessarily only Azerbaijani and you had a both Kurds and Armenians in certain districts. If anything Azerbaijan has already conquered the area that was undoubtably entirely Azerbaijani in the first place, and ironically weakning the justiciation for the continued conflict.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

sullat posted:

Well, they (The British) secretly promised the same chunk of Anatolia to both the Greeks and the Italians. Once the Italians found out, they pulled out of the coalition's attack on Turkey leaving the Greeks and French to fight alone with only massive British cash subsidies to aid them.

Reuniting the Western and Eastern Rome would've solved that one.

Avynte
Jun 30, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

yikes

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
Azerbaijan Bombed the Stepanakert maternity hospital. Seemingly with a targeted jet strike rather than a "wayward" missile or something, so that's a hell of a war crime.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

New York Times put out an article
https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/status/1321290849628639234?s=20

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



guess we know what side empires on then

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
More people have died in a month in the Second NK war than died in over a year of the first war. 3 people dying in Paris will dominate the western news. Non Euro lives just aren't a thing to the anglosphere eh?

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Vasukhani posted:

More people have died in a month in the Second NK war than died in over a year of the first war. 3 people dying in Paris will dominate the western news. Non Euro lives just aren't a thing to the anglosphere eh?

if you dying would own China in some way then maybe

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

guess we know what side empires on then

it was never up for discussion

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
PM of Artsakh says Azeris are fighting 5k from Shushi now

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/SpainNATO/status/1321916822833213446?s=19

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQL1XndbED8

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1322460016323006465

Russia will not help in NK

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
https://twitter.com/InstantReporter/status/1323260030301470721]

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna
That'd be like, the three most important people in the civilian leadership of Artsakh hit in like the past week right?

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
holy loving poo poo

https://twitter.com/SavciSayan/status/1323569291044769792

they plan on projecting the Turkish azeri flag on mount ararat

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




broke: turbofolk

woke: System Of A Down re-uniting for Artsakh
https://twitter.com/systemofadown/status/1324579496893186049?s=20

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iay_22RhRIo

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMHQ5QNiIjg

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqmknZNg1yw

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


holy poo poo how did they go from sounding like 2002 to sounding like 1999

Succbot Circlejerk
Jan 8, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

i say swears online posted:

holy poo poo how did they go from sounding like 2002 to sounding like 1999

IT'S YOUR PARENTS, MARTY

THEY TRIED USING MY CAR TO INVEST IN EARLY BITCOIN BUT THEY ACCIDENTALLY EXPOSED SYSTEM OF A DOWN TO EARLY DROWNING POOL

LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH

well just look at it does all your base are belong to us make sense as a sentence

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THESE IMAGES, MARTY

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Succbot Circlejerk posted:

oh no
LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/MBilalKenasari/status/1324489422059044872?s=19

update from the californian front

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

that steam jet into the camera is enough to get the player a B+ non lethal

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

Troy Queef posted:

broke: turbofolk

woke: System Of A Down re-uniting for Artsakh
https://twitter.com/systemofadown/status/1324579496893186049?s=20

also always thought it was a lil strange that that kinda ugly krushchev era monument became the symble of artsakh, and not like, one of the countless several century old churches.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
https://twitter.com/wwwmodgovaz/status/1325372779886223360

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Hmmm looks like Azerbaijan is outright winning the war

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1325251121028485122

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008


Exceptional video quality for 1885.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1325835676525490176

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
well... thats definitely one way to get a major power to intervene

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

are there any good sites/outlets in english to try and track this? im assuming not and my best bet is to continue trawling through twitter

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


azeris have admitted they shot it down and apologized lol. well if russia needs an excuse they got it.

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
one easy trick to gently caress up a successful war! putin hates it!!

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Amp
Sep 10, 2010

:11tea::bubblewoop::agesilaus::megaman::yoshi::squawk::supaburn::iit::spooky::axe::honked::shroom::smugdog::sg::pkmnwhy::parrot::screamy::tubular::corsair::sanix::yeeclaw::hayter::flip::redflag:

Fuligin posted:

are there any good sites/outlets in english to try and track this? im assuming not and my best bet is to continue trawling through twitter


also curious about this, have been trying to follow it since the war nerd episode with the journalist in stepanakert

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