[Mideast + Africa] Getting rid of Bongo- but at what Brice?

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Pomeroy: Apr 20, 2020

Vasukhani posted:

you know its bad when the Americans are whistlblowing about someone

australians seem like isis

They're consistent, you have to give them that. They managed to make a disturbing impression on my grandfather in New Guinea, and he was used to his own compatriots showing off human trophies on the cover of Time Magazine, and trying to mutilate or murder any prisoners they miraculously managed to take.

# ? Oct 24, 2020 05:20

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wisconsingreg: Jan 13, 2019

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1319602372734234625?s=20

https://az.usembassy.gov/security-alert-for-u-s-citizens/

and now azerbiajan, what is going on?

# ? Oct 24, 2020 23:56

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/kennardmatt/status/1320767618538754050

# ? Oct 27, 2020 12:31

Fast Luck: Feb 2, 1988

lmao

brown moses is an op

# ? Oct 27, 2020 14:16

bedpan: Apr 23, 2008

he was bought for 1,800 pounds?

he went cheap

# ? Oct 27, 2020 14:21

genericnick: Dec 26, 2012

bedpan posted:

he was bought for 1,800 pounds?

he went cheap

Fair price imo.

# ? Oct 27, 2020 14:24

Syncopated: Oct 21, 2010

thats a lol

# ? Oct 27, 2020 15:32

Comrade Koba: Jul 2, 2007

bellingspook

# ? Oct 27, 2020 16:53

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

noooo who could have foreseen turkey's alliance with jihadis backfiring lmao

# ? Oct 27, 2020 16:58

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

also russia just owned the gently caress out of a bunch of turkish backed jihadis in idlib

# ? Oct 27, 2020 16:59

Algund Eenboom: May 4, 2014

# ? Oct 27, 2020 17:04

Spergin Morlock: Aug 8, 2009; Fun Shoe

Fast Luck posted:

lmao

brown moses is an op

lol no kidding. i still think its funny that he JUST HAPPENED to be in turkey when the coup attempt went down

# ? Oct 27, 2020 17:54

Egg Moron: Jul 21, 2003; the dreams of the delighting void

the latest on SA's most successful posting psyop

https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1321593971261513728?s=20

# ? Oct 29, 2020 01:12

THS: Sep 15, 2017

the bloodfeud between bellingcat and greyzone owns

# ? Oct 29, 2020 01:14

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

# ? Oct 29, 2020 09:39

Kurnugia: Sep 2, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

THS posted:

the bloodfeud between bellingcat and greyzone owns

in the far distant future, it will be resolved in a thunderdome

# ? Oct 29, 2020 10:05

Mr. Lobe: Feb 23, 2007; ... Dry bones...

Egg Moron posted:

the latest on SA's most successful posting psyop

https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1321593971261513728?s=20

Hell yes, this is the content that I crave

# ? Oct 29, 2020 10:20

Kurnugia: Sep 2, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

to the brown moses currently reading the thread: lick my balls and answer the question

# ? Oct 29, 2020 11:20

Throatwarbler: Nov 17, 2008; by vyelkin

Man I feel like such a dinosaur in this new world where apparently everyone gets 100% of their news from random twitter comedians.

# ? Oct 29, 2020 13:56

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

Throatwarbler posted:

Man I feel like such a dinosaur in this new world where apparently everyone gets 100% of their news from random twitter comedians.

everyone's a citizen-journalist now, op

# ? Oct 29, 2020 14:59

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/1321006122715779074?s=20

Guardian just put this out about the White Helmet's founder as well. The first half is basically an allegation that harrassment from the Russian-backed Grayzone bloggers caused former UK military intelligence officer James Le Mesurier to self-harm. It's wild.

And then the second half is about how he was being investigated for stealing donor money to the White Helmets.

# ? Oct 29, 2020 15:42

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Lmao

# ? Oct 29, 2020 15:44

THS: Sep 15, 2017

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/1321006122715779074?s=20

Guardian just put this out about the White Helmet's founder as well. The first half is basically an allegation that harrassment from the Russian-backed Grayzone bloggers caused former UK military intelligence officer James Le Mesurier to self-harm. It's wild.

And then the second half is about how he was being investigated for stealing donor money to the White Helmets.

how weird that they interview brown moses accusing critics of being russian propaganda, without disclosing his own funding and biases, and without bothering to disprove the accusations leveled by the wily �self described anti-imperialists�. wtf guardian????? Very disappointing..

# ? Oct 29, 2020 16:14

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/hermit_hwarang/status/1321936801620254720

# ? Oct 29, 2020 23:55

Fast Luck: Feb 2, 1988

https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1321892103799119874

lmao at this cavalcade of deleted belingcat tweets

# ? Oct 30, 2020 19:15

Toningly: Sep 28, 2006

Does anyone know how Grayzone knows that the email was never sent? Did they just ask Whelan?

# ? Oct 31, 2020 01:33

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/MuradGazdiev/status/1323007641103249409

# ? Nov 1, 2020 23:25

Zedhe Khoja: Nov 10, 2017; sürgünden selamlar
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https://twitter.com/TurkishIndy/status/1323157873761898497
This might be a trash nation but at least it loves animals.
:unsmith:

# ? Nov 2, 2020 14:01

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/FaghihiRohollah/status/1325495274698104832?s=20

# ? Nov 9, 2020 02:41

Algund Eenboom: May 4, 2014

https://twitter.com/anastasiakeeley/status/1325840856969056259

quote:

Three years after American soldiers besieged her city, Iraqi pediatrician Samira Alani began to see a problem in the maternity ward. Women were bearing infants with organs spilling out of their abdomens or with their legs fused together like mermaids� tails. Some looked as if they were covered in snakeskin. Others emerged gasping, unsuccessfully, for air... Entisar Hussein, a housewife in Fallujah, learned about the deformities after a cousin returned from the maternity ward. �One woman, she had a child with a tail, and one, she had a child with a rabbit�s face,� Hussein recalled her cousin telling her. The sickness crept into Hussein�s family, too, she said: One of her sisters-in-law delivered an infant without skull bones to protect the brain tissue; the baby died at birth. Another sister-in-law had two miscarriages and then gave birth to a child with an enormous, bloated head. He died, too.

But even if people hadn�t been afraid, doctors and residents said it didn�t seem there was much anyone could do about the birth defects in those days. All across Iraq, the US invasion had unleashed a wave of violence against doctors, whose relative wealth and high profiles made them easy targets amid the country�s growing sectarian strife. By 2007, when Alani began to notice the birth defects in Fallujah, the Iraqi Medical Association estimated that half of registered doctors had been forced to flee the country. Those who remained, like her, risked not only arrest, kidnapping, and assassination but also the reality of straitened working conditions, brought on by shortages of drugs, medical equipment, and both water and electricity.

Alani bent over the incubator, lifting Muhammed�s arms and legs and examining his short neck and misshapen ribs. �He will be crippled,� she said matter-of-factly. He was one of four babies with congenital disorders delivered in the facility on August 28, according to hospital records and interviews with doctors. Two were twins�one with a bloated head and the second with distorted limbs and abnormal genitals. The fourth baby had fully blocked nasal cavities; days earlier, she lay in an incubator next to Muhammed, crying as she struggled to breathe.

After examining Muhammed, Alani headed to the hospital�s archives to track down the file for a patient who was born a few days earlier without a skull but whose case hadn�t been recorded in her registry. After some searching, she found the child�s documents amid the bundled stacks of pink, blue, and white sheets of paper. The family was from Abu Ghraib, about 20 miles east of Fallujah and home to the former US prison that became infamous for the torture and sexual abuse that American soldiers carried out behind its walls. She then returned to the birth defects center to examine a child diagnosed with Pierre Robin syndrome, a rare condition in which an infant has an underdeveloped jaw that causes breathing and feeding problems.

�Will she be normal?� asked the child�s grandmother Nahida Sami Aghul. She said it was the second time her daughter had a child with congenital defects; in 2014 she delivered an infant with a shriveled head who died.

�Probably not,� Alani responded flatly, warning that infants with this disorder can die from respiratory problems.

�We�re afraid of the next pregnancy. Can this happen again?� Aghul wondered.

Alani didn�t have an answer, and soon she was summoned back to the neonatal ward to examine a newborn whose spine protruded from a blood-red hole in his back. His mother was still in the delivery room, and she didn�t yet know about the infant�s condition. His grandmother hovered over the incubator and worried aloud about not having the money to pay for the baby�s treatment. Muhammed Namiq, another pediatrician, peeked into the room from the hallway.

In 2013, however, a national survey conducted by the Iraqi Ministry of Health and supported by the WHO reached a dramatically different conclusion than Fallujah�s doctors did. Based on interviews with residents in 18 of Iraq�s more than 100 districts, the survey concluded, �The rates for spontaneous abortion, stillbirths and congenital birth defects found in the study are consistent with or even lower than international estimates.� In Fallujah, it determined, the prevalence was half that of rich countries... When Alani and other Fallujah hospital doctors questioned the study�s methodology before its release, Alani said, they were accused by members of the US-backed Iraqi government of manipulating the medicine to manufacture anti-American sentiment.

...

On the eve of the 2003 invasion, Iraq was already in the grip of a public health crisis. The military conflicts of the previous two decades had combined with the economic sanctions imposed by the UN Security Council to wreak havoc on the country�s environment and infrastructure. During the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980s, the Iraqi government manufactured and deployed chemical weapons, exposing military factory workers and some of its civilians to toxic gases. The 1991 aerial attacks by the US-led coalition destroyed the energy and sanitation systems. And the UN sanctions, imposed in 1990, hampered the reconstruction of essential electrical plants and sewage treatment facilities. The ban on importing chlorine rendered water purification next to impossible.

The sanctions also devastated the country�s health care system, which was regarded as among the best in the region. The system�s budget was cut by 90 percent during the 1990s as the embargo crippled the economy. Although medicine was ostensibly exempt from the ban, expired or untested medicines flooded the black market. As food grew scarce, the per capita caloric intake for Iraqis plummeted to as low as 1,093 per day in 1995, according to a brief by UNICEF and the WHO, leading the health agency to observe in a 1996 report, �The vast majority of the country�s population has been on a semi-starvation diet for years.�

The government�s food rationing system, imposed in response to the sanctions, staved off a potential famine but left people deficient in several vitamins and minerals, including nutrients essential to fetal development. According to the 1996 WHO report, the availability of folate�which helps prevent serious congenital disorders known as neural tube defects�decreased more than 77 percent. The ration diet more than halved the availability of zinc and riboflavin, deficiencies of which are linked to some birth defects, as well as thiamine, a deficiency of which can increase the risk of stillbirth. By 2003, UNICEF said, nearly 60 percent of the Iraqi population was fully dependent on food rations, meaning that these nutritional deficiencies affected more than half of the population. The Ministry of Health recorded a national rise in congenital heart disease, one of the most common types of birth defects, between 1991 and 1998.

�Nutritional factors are known to cause congenital anomalies and defects, and that has been a very understudied pathway for birth defects in Iraq,� said Dewachi.

In Fallujah the US invasion and its aftermath severely exacerbated these underlying health and environmental problems. In 2004 the city was the site of the bloodiest battles of the US war in Iraq. In November and December, nine US Army and Marine battalions laid waste to Fallujah, destroying or damaging tens of thousands of homes, multiple water treatment facilities and power plants, and the city�s sanitation system. The battle killed thousands of Iraqis and 82 Americans. Raw sewage flooded the streets. Dogs mangled bodies that were strewn across the city. US troops deployed white phosphorus, a chemical weapon capable of burning skin and muscle down to the bone. It was a battle the US forces fought with a spirit of vengeance because, as Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other top US leaders saw it, �Fallujah had become a symbol of resistance� to the US occupation of Iraq.

Marg Bar Amrika

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guidoanselmi: Feb 6, 2008; I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

Madeleine Albright had girlpower.

# ? Nov 10, 2020 19:31

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

genuinely want to see if there has been a spike in leukemia rates among veterans of Iraq/Afghanistan. There has been a few studies that have linked depleted uranium to leukemia in mice, and on a personal level my cousin who served in afghanistan passed back in 2017 from leukemia, and while it is very possible that he just rolled the dice and they came up wrong, I just don't know.

# ? Nov 10, 2020 19:41

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Atrocious Joe posted:

Guardian just put this out about the White Helmet's founder as well. The first half is basically an allegation that harrassment from the Russian-backed Grayzone bloggers caused former UK military intelligence officer James Le Mesurier to self-harm. It's wild.

And then the second half is about how he was being investigated for stealing donor money to the White Helmets.

they buried the lede. if that's even the lede. when i hear that a "former" british spy takes a plunge in istanbul i don't think it's because max blumenthal hurt his feelings

# ? Nov 10, 2020 19:53

Algund Eenboom: May 4, 2014

https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1326202171411623936
https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1326202173005438976

Cool stuff!

# ? Nov 10, 2020 19:54

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

every other brit hanging out in a cafe from basra to bosnia is a spy of some kind. they're very good at it and they blend in well, unlike americans. they've been doing to for so long it's part of the national culture going back back to lawrence of arabia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo

# ? Nov 10, 2020 19:59

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

every other brit hanging out in a cafe from basra to bosnia is a spy of some kind. they're very good at it and they blend in well, unlike americans. they've been doing to for so long it's part of the national culture going back back to lawrence of arabia.

The hell you will. He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. Brody's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again.

# ? Nov 10, 2020 20:00

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

i say swears online posted:

The hell you will. He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. Brody's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again.

it's true. it's also why there are so many great british theatre performers who are good at playing characters. hypocrisy and lies are the national sport. when i see some british travel vlogger on youtube, i think: cutout, spy, cover story

# ? Nov 10, 2020 20:06

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

every other brit hanging out in a cafe from basra to bosnia is a spy of some kind. they're very good at it and they blend in well, unlike americans. they've been doing to for so long it's part of the national culture going back back to lawrence of arabia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo

What about that Bald and Bankrupt youtuber? I never really got into him, but his videos were kind of interesting. But "British dude who was really into Russia and India" just screamed cop to me

https://www.youtube.com/c/baldandbankrupt

TeenageArchipelago has issued a correction as of 20:14 on Nov 10, 2020

# ? Nov 10, 2020 20:10

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british spook competency is overblown imo. the only things mi6-7 did in the cold war was pedophilia and communism. If you were posh enough to be there it meant even if someone suspected you of being a soviet informant, they couldn't report you because you went to the same hogwartz school and got molested by his uncle in the showers, and those kinds of bonds are unbreakable.

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BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

TeenageArchipelago posted:

What about that Bald and Bankrupt youtuber? I never really got into him, but his videos were kind of interesting. But "British dude who was really hoping into Russia and India" just screamed cop to me

https://www.youtube.com/c/baldandbankrupt

# ? Nov 10, 2020 20:13

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